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  • mfc2006
    mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,491
    SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:
    and i still say....

    who ever it was who was supplying the steroids to sammy sosa....

    has to be one stand up guy...(as far as drug dealers are concerned)

    because its been 10 years since sammy hit 60 homers for the 1st time(he is the only guy to hit 60 homers in three seasons).......


    and sammys name never comes up.......

    it is interesting that his name never comes up. i know that they gym can add a lot of muscle, but remember what Sosa looked like as a rookie? or even the season before he started hitting a lot of homeruns?
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  • Wobbie
    Wobbie Posts: 31,550
    igotid88 wrote:
    Why does everyone want him to say he did it? He doesn't have to do anything. Those records were supposed to be anonymous and sealed. Unless the rest of the names are released. He could deny.

    He can't plausibly deny. And the fact that he should have gotten away with it, is not going to engender much sympathy.
    SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:
    and i still say....

    who ever it was who was supplying the steroids to sammy sosa....

    has to be one stand up guy...(as far as drug dealers are concerned)

    because its been 10 years since sammy hit 60 homers for the 1st time(he is the only guy to hit 60 homers in three seasons).......


    and sammys name never comes up.......

    I'm guessing all of Sammy's "people" were in his native Dominican. :mrgreen:
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  • jervin007
    jervin007 Posts: 3,182
    People may think baseball is "clean" now, but I guarantee they are taking something new. As a previous poster mentioned, the chemists are always one step ahead.

    I am a Sox fan, but there is no way that team was/is clean. Even team probably had multiple players using steroids. My guess, Damon back in the Jesus days, Trot Nixon (even though he was my favorite player) and god forbid that I mention his name but, David Ortiz as well. Damon was super tight with Giambi in Oakland right when steroid were in full swing, Trot was plagued by injuries later in his career as well as power dropping significantly, and look at Ortiz the past few years (this year will be the big test for him). All are great players and I don't think many stars weren't using. It was just a sign of the times.

    Also, someone mentioned advantages for certain eras. I believe this is true. In the case of Babe Ruth, he is one of the greats, but lets face it, the African American league and MLB were completely separate. Never did he have to compete against anyone but his own race, while unbelievable athletes were segregated into another league. If the leagues were mixed at that time I think you would have seen these "greats" not being as dominant. Just as the steroid era has provided an advantage to certain players on the playing field.
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  • mfc2006
    mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,491
    i'm just glad that no one on my favorite team's current roster ever took steroids & lied about their age.

    oh wait....tejada did. :shock:
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  • Solat13
    Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    jervin007 wrote:
    People may think baseball is "clean" now, but I guarantee they are taking something new. As a previous poster mentioned, the chemists are always one step ahead.

    I am a Sox fan, but there is no way that team was/is clean. Even team probably had multiple players using steroids. My guess, Damon back in the Jesus days, Trot Nixon (even though he was my favorite player) and god forbid that I mention his name but, David Ortiz as well. Damon was super tight with Giambi in Oakland right when steroid were in full swing, Trot was plagued by injuries later in his career as well as power dropping significantly, and look at Ortiz the past few years (this year will be the big test for him). All are great players and I don't think many stars weren't using. It was just a sign of the times.

    Also, someone mentioned advantages for certain eras. I believe this is true. In the case of Babe Ruth, he is one of the greats, but lets face it, the African American league and MLB were completely separate. Never did he have to compete against anyone but his own race, while unbelievable athletes were segregated into another league. If the leagues were mixed at that time I think you would have seen these "greats" not being as dominant. Just as the steroid era has provided an advantage to certain players on the playing field.

    I think people make too big of a case of the game being segregated when Babe Ruth played. He played in the barnstorming leagues and still hit at the same levels he did during the regular season.

    And currently just 8% of MLB is African American and only 3% of pitchers are as of 2006. So saying that the lack of African Americans in baseball taints his career is misleading. It would be more correct to say the lack of Latin American players.
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    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
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    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • SPEEDY MCCREADY
    SPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 27,018
    a prediction from SPEEDY...

    one of the names that will come out if they ever release the names of all those who tested positive in 2003....

    julio franco.....

    no doubt in my fucking mind.....that guy played till he was 50 years old???

    and i have a feeling another name on that report will be.......

    johnny damon....
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  • jimed14
    jimed14 Posts: 9,488
    jervin007 wrote:
    People may think baseball is "clean" now, but I guarantee they are taking something new. As a previous poster mentioned, the chemists are always one step ahead.

    I am a Sox fan, but there is no way that team was/is clean. Even team probably had multiple players using steroids. My guess, Damon back in the Jesus days, Trot Nixon (even though he was my favorite player) and god forbid that I mention his name but, David Ortiz as well. Damon was super tight with Giambi in Oakland right when steroid were in full swing, Trot was plagued by injuries later in his career as well as power dropping significantly, and look at Ortiz the past few years (this year will be the big test for him). All are great players and I don't think many stars weren't using. It was just a sign of the times.

    Also, someone mentioned advantages for certain eras. I believe this is true. In the case of Babe Ruth, he is one of the greats, but lets face it, the African American league and MLB were completely separate. Never did he have to compete against anyone but his own race, while unbelievable athletes were segregated into another league. If the leagues were mixed at that time I think you would have seen these "greats" not being as dominant. Just as the steroid era has provided an advantage to certain players on the playing field.

    Of all the Sox that have come and gone, Trot is by far the one I suspect the most. Amazingly, he's a very religious person too ... :roll:
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  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    The one that would break my heart if caught up in the steroids thing...
    Ken Griffey, Jr.
    ...
    If there is a God... please, don't let Junior be a part of this.
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  • Solat13
    Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    Well, A Roid just admitted he used:

    http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3894847
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • chromiam
    chromiam Posts: 4,114
    Solat13 wrote:
    Well, A Roid just admitted he used:

    http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3894847

    Geez the one guy in all of this who seems to be telling the truth is.......




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  • Solat13
    Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    Alex Rodriquez came clean about taking performance-enhancing drugs during a three-year period beginning in 2001. Here's a look at A-Rod's numbers during that period compared to the rest of his major league career:

    '01-03

    Games/season 161.7
    Batting avg. .305
    Homers/season 52.0
    Slugging .615

    Other 10 Seasons

    Games/season 148.4
    Batting avg. .309
    Homers/season 39.2
    Slugging .574
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • chromiam
    chromiam Posts: 4,114
    Solat13 wrote:
    Alex Rodriquez came clean about taking performance-enhancing drugs during a three-year period beginning in 2001. Here's a look at A-Rod's numbers during that period compared to the rest of his major league career:

    '01-03

    Games/season 161.7
    Batting avg. .305
    Homers/season 52.0
    Slugging .615

    Other 10 Seasons

    Games/season 148.4
    Batting avg. .309
    Homers/season 39.2
    Slugging .574

    Honestly not much of a difference there other than the games played... which steroids do help you recover faster and train harder.

    Although A-Rod did get his huge money contracts based on those 3 years.
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  • Solat13
    Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    chromiam wrote:
    Solat13 wrote:
    Alex Rodriquez came clean about taking performance-enhancing drugs during a three-year period beginning in 2001. Here's a look at A-Rod's numbers during that period compared to the rest of his major league career:

    '01-03

    Games/season 161.7
    Batting avg. .305
    Homers/season 52.0
    Slugging .615

    Other 10 Seasons

    Games/season 148.4
    Batting avg. .309
    Homers/season 39.2
    Slugging .574

    Honestly not much of a difference there other than the games played... which steroids do help you recover faster and train harder.

    Although A-Rod did get his huge money contracts based on those 3 years.

    It also explains about why he got too big to play SS anymore.
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • jimed14
    jimed14 Posts: 9,488
    well, I'll give Arod this ... he admitted it.

    Dear Roger Clemens, Barry Bonds ... follow his lead ... for the love of god, can we please just have everyone admit it so we can start to put it behind us.

    Is there any storyline that is LESS interesting that this? Ok, maybe the Favre will he/won't he retire crap we go through every year, but, the steroid discussion needs to end.
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  • chromiam
    chromiam Posts: 4,114
    jimed14 wrote:
    well, I'll give Arod this ... he admitted it.

    Dear Roger Clemens, Barry Bonds ... follow his lead ... for the love of god, can we please just have everyone admit it so we can start to put it behind us.

    Is there any storyline that is LESS interesting that this? Ok, maybe the Favre will he/won't he retire crap we go through every year, but, the steroid discussion needs to end.

    Problem with Clemens and Bonds admitting it at this point is that they will face federal charges for perjury. So they are better off keeping their mouths shut.
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  • norm
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    jimed14 wrote:
    well, I'll give Arod this ... he admitted it.

    yea he admitted it but only after getting caught....i'd respect any of these guys if they came out and said they did it before it released elsewhere....but then i expect a lot of people and continually get dissapointed
  • stickfig13
    stickfig13 Posts: 1,532
    The guy owned it! Finally one of these guys comes out and owns it!

    It doesn't matter that he admitted it only after he got caught. He got caught and fessed up...period! That is a lot more than can be said for some of the other superstars who are clearly lying through their teeth
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  • Solat13
    Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    stickfig13 wrote:
    The guy owned it! Finally one of these guys comes out and owns it!

    It doesn't matter that he admitted it only after he got caught. He got caught and fessed up...period! That is a lot more than can be said for some of the other superstars who are clearly lying through their teeth

    Does that mean Yankee fans will embrace him now?

    I only wish I was at Fenway for that first Red Sox Yankees game this year.
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
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    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • jimed14
    jimed14 Posts: 9,488
    Solat13 wrote:
    stickfig13 wrote:
    The guy owned it! Finally one of these guys comes out and owns it!

    It doesn't matter that he admitted it only after he got caught. He got caught and fessed up...period! That is a lot more than can be said for some of the other superstars who are clearly lying through their teeth

    Does that mean Yankee fans will embrace him now?

    I only wish I was at Fenway for that first Red Sox Yankees game this year.


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  • mfc2006
    mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,491
    you've gotta give him credit for fessing up. i think that schilling is right (other piece on espn) by saying that the other players that tested positive should come forward and admit it. otherwise, we're going to go through this every few weeks. so and so tested positive in 2001.....all over the newspapers. he admits/denies it. then the next player is named...

    it's ridiculous. what a sad state baseball is in...my all-time favorite sport & pastime.
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