who ever it was who was supplying the steroids to sammy sosa....
has to be one stand up guy...(as far as drug dealers are concerned)
because its been 10 years since sammy hit 60 homers for the 1st time(he is the only guy to hit 60 homers in three seasons).......
and sammys name never comes up.......
it is interesting that his name never comes up. i know that they gym can add a lot of muscle, but remember what Sosa looked like as a rookie? or even the season before he started hitting a lot of homeruns?
Why does everyone want him to say he did it? He doesn't have to do anything. Those records were supposed to be anonymous and sealed. Unless the rest of the names are released. He could deny.
He can't plausibly deny. And the fact that he should have gotten away with it, is not going to engender much sympathy.
who ever it was who was supplying the steroids to sammy sosa....
has to be one stand up guy...(as far as drug dealers are concerned)
because its been 10 years since sammy hit 60 homers for the 1st time(he is the only guy to hit 60 homers in three seasons).......
and sammys name never comes up.......
I'm guessing all of Sammy's "people" were in his native Dominican.
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People may think baseball is "clean" now, but I guarantee they are taking something new. As a previous poster mentioned, the chemists are always one step ahead.
I am a Sox fan, but there is no way that team was/is clean. Even team probably had multiple players using steroids. My guess, Damon back in the Jesus days, Trot Nixon (even though he was my favorite player) and god forbid that I mention his name but, David Ortiz as well. Damon was super tight with Giambi in Oakland right when steroid were in full swing, Trot was plagued by injuries later in his career as well as power dropping significantly, and look at Ortiz the past few years (this year will be the big test for him). All are great players and I don't think many stars weren't using. It was just a sign of the times.
Also, someone mentioned advantages for certain eras. I believe this is true. In the case of Babe Ruth, he is one of the greats, but lets face it, the African American league and MLB were completely separate. Never did he have to compete against anyone but his own race, while unbelievable athletes were segregated into another league. If the leagues were mixed at that time I think you would have seen these "greats" not being as dominant. Just as the steroid era has provided an advantage to certain players on the playing field.
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People may think baseball is "clean" now, but I guarantee they are taking something new. As a previous poster mentioned, the chemists are always one step ahead.
I am a Sox fan, but there is no way that team was/is clean. Even team probably had multiple players using steroids. My guess, Damon back in the Jesus days, Trot Nixon (even though he was my favorite player) and god forbid that I mention his name but, David Ortiz as well. Damon was super tight with Giambi in Oakland right when steroid were in full swing, Trot was plagued by injuries later in his career as well as power dropping significantly, and look at Ortiz the past few years (this year will be the big test for him). All are great players and I don't think many stars weren't using. It was just a sign of the times.
Also, someone mentioned advantages for certain eras. I believe this is true. In the case of Babe Ruth, he is one of the greats, but lets face it, the African American league and MLB were completely separate. Never did he have to compete against anyone but his own race, while unbelievable athletes were segregated into another league. If the leagues were mixed at that time I think you would have seen these "greats" not being as dominant. Just as the steroid era has provided an advantage to certain players on the playing field.
I think people make too big of a case of the game being segregated when Babe Ruth played. He played in the barnstorming leagues and still hit at the same levels he did during the regular season.
And currently just 8% of MLB is African American and only 3% of pitchers are as of 2006. So saying that the lack of African Americans in baseball taints his career is misleading. It would be more correct to say the lack of Latin American players.
People may think baseball is "clean" now, but I guarantee they are taking something new. As a previous poster mentioned, the chemists are always one step ahead.
I am a Sox fan, but there is no way that team was/is clean. Even team probably had multiple players using steroids. My guess, Damon back in the Jesus days, Trot Nixon (even though he was my favorite player) and god forbid that I mention his name but, David Ortiz as well. Damon was super tight with Giambi in Oakland right when steroid were in full swing, Trot was plagued by injuries later in his career as well as power dropping significantly, and look at Ortiz the past few years (this year will be the big test for him). All are great players and I don't think many stars weren't using. It was just a sign of the times.
Also, someone mentioned advantages for certain eras. I believe this is true. In the case of Babe Ruth, he is one of the greats, but lets face it, the African American league and MLB were completely separate. Never did he have to compete against anyone but his own race, while unbelievable athletes were segregated into another league. If the leagues were mixed at that time I think you would have seen these "greats" not being as dominant. Just as the steroid era has provided an advantage to certain players on the playing field.
Of all the Sox that have come and gone, Trot is by far the one I suspect the most. Amazingly, he's a very religious person too ... :roll:
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Dear Roger Clemens, Barry Bonds ... follow his lead ... for the love of god, can we please just have everyone admit it so we can start to put it behind us.
Is there any storyline that is LESS interesting that this? Ok, maybe the Favre will he/won't he retire crap we go through every year, but, the steroid discussion needs to end.
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Is there any storyline that is LESS interesting that this? Ok, maybe the Favre will he/won't he retire crap we go through every year, but, the steroid discussion needs to end.
Problem with Clemens and Bonds admitting it at this point is that they will face federal charges for perjury. So they are better off keeping their mouths shut.
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yea he admitted it but only after getting caught....i'd respect any of these guys if they came out and said they did it before it released elsewhere....but then i expect a lot of people and continually get dissapointed
The guy owned it! Finally one of these guys comes out and owns it!
It doesn't matter that he admitted it only after he got caught. He got caught and fessed up...period! That is a lot more than can be said for some of the other superstars who are clearly lying through their teeth
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The guy owned it! Finally one of these guys comes out and owns it!
It doesn't matter that he admitted it only after he got caught. He got caught and fessed up...period! That is a lot more than can be said for some of the other superstars who are clearly lying through their teeth
Does that mean Yankee fans will embrace him now?
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The guy owned it! Finally one of these guys comes out and owns it!
It doesn't matter that he admitted it only after he got caught. He got caught and fessed up...period! That is a lot more than can be said for some of the other superstars who are clearly lying through their teeth
Does that mean Yankee fans will embrace him now?
I only wish I was at Fenway for that first Red Sox Yankees game this year.
you've gotta give him credit for fessing up. i think that schilling is right (other piece on espn) by saying that the other players that tested positive should come forward and admit it. otherwise, we're going to go through this every few weeks. so and so tested positive in 2001.....all over the newspapers. he admits/denies it. then the next player is named...
it's ridiculous. what a sad state baseball is in...my all-time favorite sport & pastime.
you've gotta give him credit for fessing up. i think that schilling is right (other piece on espn) by saying that the other players that tested positive should come forward and admit it. otherwise, we're going to go through this every few weeks. so and so tested positive in 2001.....all over the newspapers. he admits/denies it. then the next player is named...
it's ridiculous. what a sad state baseball is in...my all-time favorite sport & pastime.
Ya know...I realize that steroids could enhance a player's ability, but they sure don't swing the bat for you. Anyone that has ever played baseball knows that the best power hitters are not usually the strongest guy on the team. Anyone that has played baseball knows you still have to be able to hit the ball....and to hit .300+ you have more than steriods on your side.
My point is that steroids may make you a little stronger or faster..whatever...but of all professional sports, I would say they would help you the least.
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Ya know...I realize that steroids could enhance a player's ability, but they sure don't swing the bat for you. Anyone that has ever played baseball knows that the best power hitters are not usually the strongest guy on the team. Anyone that has played baseball knows you still have to be able to hit the ball....and to hit .300+ you have more than steriods on your side.
My point is that steroids may make you a little stronger or faster..whatever...but of all professional sports, I would say they would help you the least.
I'd disagree that they help baseball players the least. What steroids mainly do for baseball players, I believe, is allow them to play at a high level for a 162 game season and the playoffs. It allows them to train harder and longer and helps their bodies recover faster. And during a long season, that's important.
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Although A-Rod did get his huge money contracts based on those 3 years.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, those years were with the Texas Rangers.....and he already signed the $252 million dollar deal by then.
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While's it's nice that he admitted it after the fact.... the dumbest thing is when he says the following:
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I've never done any drug of any sort, but if someone is going to do this, wouldn't it be smart to at least know what's going into their body??
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The one that would break my heart if caught up in the steroids thing...
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The guy owned it! Finally one of these guys comes out and owns it!
It doesn't matter that he admitted it only after he got caught. He got caught and fessed up...period! That is a lot more than can be said for some of the other superstars who are clearly lying through their teeth
From what I've seen, he did a decent job (considering). A-Rod was smart enough to see what doesn't work (Bonds, Sammy "my eenglish not so good" Sosa, McGuire, Clemens, etc.). I'll give him that.
Is there any storyline that is LESS interesting that this? Ok, maybe the Favre will he/won't he retire crap we go through every year, but, the steroid discussion needs to end.
Are you fucking kidding me? The discussion needs to continue until the HOF voters can somehow come to grips with it. Bud, the Union and the owners need to be exposed too (I'm not holding my breath). Ten years ago, everyone in the game (players and owners and Bud) were all getting rich (and still are). They all knew what was going on but know we're just going to scapegoat certain guys?? And these sanctimonious "I'll never vote for a steroid guy" HOF voters knew what was going on too....but they wanted to bask in the Sammy vs. Mark HR race, write their columns and look the other way. But now, they've found religion. WTF???
My pie-in-the-sky solution is for Bud and the Union to get together and convince EVERY player who ever juiced to come forward....pitchers, hitters, superstars and scrubs...amnesty afterwards (with continued testing)...no never-ending questions from reporters...and back to HOF voting based on statistics....take steroid use into account, but don't disqualify anyone solely on an admission. I don't want to hear about the "sanctity" of any Hall that admits Phil Freaking Rizzuto and keeps Bonds and A-Rod out. Just MHO.
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I think people make too big of a case of the game being segregated when Babe Ruth played. He played in the barnstorming leagues and still hit at the same levels he did during the regular season.
And currently just 8% of MLB is African American and only 3% of pitchers are as of 2006. So saying that the lack of African Americans in baseball taints his career is misleading. It would be more correct to say the lack of Latin American players.[/quote]
I see your point. I was just drawing attention to the fact that there are advantages to playing in every era. I personally do think that if segregation wasn't present you would have seen a different game in terms of competition and the amount of dominant players. I am not trying to take anything away from Ruth, he was one of the best and his stats wouldn't have changed much, but that wouldn't be the case with everyone. It just a shame that so many great players played their prime years in the African American leagues, many never playing in the MLB at all, when they could have easily become household names if that hadn't been the case. I know that there aren't many African Americans in the game today, but I was kind of referring to the past. Lets just say when MLB became diversified (with African American and Latin American players) the level of play increased, which forced people to work harder to stay in the game. In a similar sense, steroids were just another way to stay competitive.
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I don't care what the players were taking before and don't think it should affect their HOF status. They played by the rules that were in place at the time. Now the rule has been changed so if you use now and get caught be ready to face the fire. Only thing about A-Rod is he did lie about it on 60 Minutes in 2007 of course he thought his anonymous test results would never surface.
THIRTEEN HRs per year is "not much of a difference"?????
No, not when you factor in an average of 14 games missed per season. So if A-Rod hit 1 HR every other game, his HR average over 10 years would almost equal the 3 year period.
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it is interesting that his name never comes up. i know that they gym can add a lot of muscle, but remember what Sosa looked like as a rookie? or even the season before he started hitting a lot of homeruns?
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He can't plausibly deny. And the fact that he should have gotten away with it, is not going to engender much sympathy.
I'm guessing all of Sammy's "people" were in his native Dominican.
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I am a Sox fan, but there is no way that team was/is clean. Even team probably had multiple players using steroids. My guess, Damon back in the Jesus days, Trot Nixon (even though he was my favorite player) and god forbid that I mention his name but, David Ortiz as well. Damon was super tight with Giambi in Oakland right when steroid were in full swing, Trot was plagued by injuries later in his career as well as power dropping significantly, and look at Ortiz the past few years (this year will be the big test for him). All are great players and I don't think many stars weren't using. It was just a sign of the times.
Also, someone mentioned advantages for certain eras. I believe this is true. In the case of Babe Ruth, he is one of the greats, but lets face it, the African American league and MLB were completely separate. Never did he have to compete against anyone but his own race, while unbelievable athletes were segregated into another league. If the leagues were mixed at that time I think you would have seen these "greats" not being as dominant. Just as the steroid era has provided an advantage to certain players on the playing field.
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I think people make too big of a case of the game being segregated when Babe Ruth played. He played in the barnstorming leagues and still hit at the same levels he did during the regular season.
And currently just 8% of MLB is African American and only 3% of pitchers are as of 2006. So saying that the lack of African Americans in baseball taints his career is misleading. It would be more correct to say the lack of Latin American players.
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one of the names that will come out if they ever release the names of all those who tested positive in 2003....
julio franco.....
no doubt in my fucking mind.....that guy played till he was 50 years old???
and i have a feeling another name on that report will be.......
johnny damon....
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
Of all the Sox that have come and gone, Trot is by far the one I suspect the most. Amazingly, he's a very religious person too ... :roll:
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Geez the one guy in all of this who seems to be telling the truth is.......
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Honestly not much of a difference there other than the games played... which steroids do help you recover faster and train harder.
Although A-Rod did get his huge money contracts based on those 3 years.
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It also explains about why he got too big to play SS anymore.
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Dear Roger Clemens, Barry Bonds ... follow his lead ... for the love of god, can we please just have everyone admit it so we can start to put it behind us.
Is there any storyline that is LESS interesting that this? Ok, maybe the Favre will he/won't he retire crap we go through every year, but, the steroid discussion needs to end.
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Problem with Clemens and Bonds admitting it at this point is that they will face federal charges for perjury. So they are better off keeping their mouths shut.
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yea he admitted it but only after getting caught....i'd respect any of these guys if they came out and said they did it before it released elsewhere....but then i expect a lot of people and continually get dissapointed
It doesn't matter that he admitted it only after he got caught. He got caught and fessed up...period! That is a lot more than can be said for some of the other superstars who are clearly lying through their teeth
Does that mean Yankee fans will embrace him now?
I only wish I was at Fenway for that first Red Sox Yankees game this year.
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it's ridiculous. what a sad state baseball is in...my all-time favorite sport & pastime.
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Ya know...I realize that steroids could enhance a player's ability, but they sure don't swing the bat for you. Anyone that has ever played baseball knows that the best power hitters are not usually the strongest guy on the team. Anyone that has played baseball knows you still have to be able to hit the ball....and to hit .300+ you have more than steriods on your side.
My point is that steroids may make you a little stronger or faster..whatever...but of all professional sports, I would say they would help you the least.
I'd disagree that they help baseball players the least. What steroids mainly do for baseball players, I believe, is allow them to play at a high level for a 162 game season and the playoffs. It allows them to train harder and longer and helps their bodies recover faster. And during a long season, that's important.
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You are correct. 2001 was the first year of A Rod's contract in Texas.
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“And to be quite honest, I don’t know exactly what substance I was guilty of using.”
I've never done any drug of any sort, but if someone is going to do this, wouldn't it be smart to at least know what's going into their body??
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Prime candidate, IMHO. :shock:
THIRTEEN HRs per year is "not much of a difference"????? :? :? :?
From what I've seen, he did a decent job (considering). A-Rod was smart enough to see what doesn't work (Bonds, Sammy "my eenglish not so good" Sosa, McGuire, Clemens, etc.). I'll give him that.
Are you fucking kidding me? The discussion needs to continue until the HOF voters can somehow come to grips with it. Bud, the Union and the owners need to be exposed too (I'm not holding my breath). Ten years ago, everyone in the game (players and owners and Bud) were all getting rich (and still are). They all knew what was going on but know we're just going to scapegoat certain guys?? And these sanctimonious "I'll never vote for a steroid guy" HOF voters knew what was going on too....but they wanted to bask in the Sammy vs. Mark HR race, write their columns and look the other way. But now, they've found religion. WTF???
My pie-in-the-sky solution is for Bud and the Union to get together and convince EVERY player who ever juiced to come forward....pitchers, hitters, superstars and scrubs...amnesty afterwards (with continued testing)...no never-ending questions from reporters...and back to HOF voting based on statistics....take steroid use into account, but don't disqualify anyone solely on an admission. I don't want to hear about the "sanctity" of any Hall that admits Phil Freaking Rizzuto and keeps Bonds and A-Rod out. Just MHO.
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And currently just 8% of MLB is African American and only 3% of pitchers are as of 2006. So saying that the lack of African Americans in baseball taints his career is misleading. It would be more correct to say the lack of Latin American players.[/quote]
I see your point. I was just drawing attention to the fact that there are advantages to playing in every era. I personally do think that if segregation wasn't present you would have seen a different game in terms of competition and the amount of dominant players. I am not trying to take anything away from Ruth, he was one of the best and his stats wouldn't have changed much, but that wouldn't be the case with everyone. It just a shame that so many great players played their prime years in the African American leagues, many never playing in the MLB at all, when they could have easily become household names if that hadn't been the case. I know that there aren't many African Americans in the game today, but I was kind of referring to the past. Lets just say when MLB became diversified (with African American and Latin American players) the level of play increased, which forced people to work harder to stay in the game. In a similar sense, steroids were just another way to stay competitive.
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I don't care what the players were taking before and don't think it should affect their HOF status. They played by the rules that were in place at the time. Now the rule has been changed so if you use now and get caught be ready to face the fire. Only thing about A-Rod is he did lie about it on 60 Minutes in 2007 of course he thought his anonymous test results would never surface.
No, not when you factor in an average of 14 games missed per season. So if A-Rod hit 1 HR every other game, his HR average over 10 years would almost equal the 3 year period.
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