God, ESPN is all over this. They so like to speculate over everything. I can hear the ESPN higher ups getting wood when things like A-Rod and Phelps break
I can hear the ESPN higher ups getting wood when things like A-Rod and Phelps break
Yeah! They need to cut Phelps a little slack! >>>>>>>>>>>
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Not hating here, crojam, but I'm sure A-Rod is not the only pinstripper who was/is using. I'm bitter because Selig ("I knew nothing") and the Feds want to make Bonds the scapegoat for the whole fucking mess.
For the record, Arod was a Ranger when these tests were taken ... but, yeah ... the owners and MLB mgmt is complicit in all this.
sox and mets fans are gonna have fun with A-FRAUD this season, haha
Actually, I think folks are going to go with A-Roid ... his first trip to Fenway is going to be interesting. Hell, his first AB in Yankee stadium will be intersting.
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Actually, I think folks are going to go with A-Roid ... his first trip to Fenway is going to be interesting. Hell, his first AB in Yankee stadium will be intersting.
they will cheer when steps into the batters box then boo when he grounds into a DP or strikes out. a-roids, i like that.
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As a life long Yankee fan, I have been telling all my buddies that A-ROD was a guy who was clean. Now this shit comes out!!! Everybody back then was on the juice and I would say there is still a good majority of the league is doing HGH now. I think A-ROD needs to man up and admit he did it and try to put this behind him as soon as possible. It will never completely go away but look at Giambi and Pettitte. They owned up to it and you don't hear much from them anymore.
I also afraid that he doesn't seem that tough skined to handle the type of scrutiny he is going to receive. The Yankee fans are going to give him shit. Wait until he reaches cites like Boston, they are going to be ruthless!!!
I think A-ROD needs to man up and admit he did it and try to put this behind him as soon as possible. It will never completely go away but look at Giambi and Pettitte. They owned up to it and you don't hear much from them anymore.
If he does "admit" it, it will probably be the standard "I did it for a very short time to try to recover from an injury and I haven't done it since" BULLSHIT. :roll:
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I think A-ROD needs to man up and admit he did it and try to put this behind him as soon as possible. It will never completely go away but look at Giambi and Pettitte. They owned up to it and you don't hear much from them anymore.
If he does "admit" it, it will probably be the standard "I did it for a very short time to try to recover from an injury and I haven't done it since" BULLSHIT. :roll:
I agree totally or the "I tried it once and didn't like it so I stopped"
can you imagine these guys on steroids??????? the numbers they would have put up????
Hank - greenies
Willie - greenies
Babe - booze and broads
Mickey - booze, greenies and god knows what else
Ernie - ????
I get your point, put all the eras were different. These days, a hitter probably sees three pitchers a game...starters, situational pitchers, set-up guys, nasty closers (some/most as juiced as the hitters). In Babe's case, he played in a "whites only" time. It's never been easy to hit a baseball.... A-Rod (and it truly pains me to say this) is a great player....he would have been great in the 60s, too. Willie would still be great these days, although he might have had to get on the 'roids to compete :shock: . It is what it is.
Football? Same thing.
Babe Ruth also lost a couple hundred home runs from his career totals because of rule changes and not having modern medicine. He hurt his knee early in his career and would have received routine surgery now in the offseason instead of hobbling around in the later years of his career.
Plus back then if a ball hooked around the foul pole in fair territory and landed foul like many of David Ortiz's homers, it was ruled a foul ball. It was only a home run if the ball landed between the poles. Also back then if you hit a walk off homer, it didn't count as a homer unless the batter's run was the go ahead run. And that doesn't even take into account the much smaller parks nowadays. Ruth probably should have finished with well over 900 home runs.
Wow, and considering by the time he's done he'll own the good majority of batting records only to have a " * " next to his name like so many others.
I hope to god these f'ers never get into the HOF.
If its as widespread as we all think it is...its gonna be hard to keep em all out
This is just another notch on Jose Canseco's belt...damn that dude was right about everything
I have to say this I respect Jose Canseco more these days for being up front with his steriod use. Yes it was wrong but at the very least he came forward with what he did and made some money in the mean time.
Now A-Fraud-roid along with Clemons and Bonds and others all steadfastly denied using steriods however it appears to be quite differently now.
Glad A-FRAUD-ROID is playing for the Yankees instead of the Sox he would have been a total embarassment for the team.
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Wow, and considering by the time he's done he'll own the good majority of batting records only to have a " * " next to his name like so many others.
I hope to god these f'ers never get into the HOF.
If its as widespread as we all think it is...its gonna be hard to keep em all out
This is just another notch on Jose Canseco's belt...damn that dude was right about everything
I have to say this I respect Jose Canseco more these days for being up front with his steriod use. Yes it was wrong but at the very least he came forward with what he did and made some money in the mean time.
Now A-Fraud-roid along with Clemons and Bonds and others all steadfastly denied using steriods however it appears to be quite differently now.
Glad A-FRAUD-ROID is playing for the Yankees instead of the Sox he would have been a total embarassment for the team.
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BUT...The ONLY reason he was upfront was to make some money off of it. He had a beef with baseball and everyone he felt wronged him, so THAT is why he wrote the book. Not sure that is being up front about steriod use in my eyes. He had everything to gain, while everyone else is losing...Right wrong or indifferent, I see them all in the same light...F-ING cheaters who didnt have the stones to do it the right way like it was intended...imho...:)
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BUT...The ONLY reason he was upfront was to make some money off of it. He had a beef with baseball and everyone he felt wronged him, so THAT is why he wrote the book. Not sure that is being up front about steriod use in my eyes. He had everything to gain, while everyone else is losing...Right wrong or indifferent, I see them all in the same light...F-ING cheaters who didnt have the stones to do it the right way like it was intended...imho...:)
For these ballers it's a dog eat dog world out there and these players want to use every advantage to get ahead of the next guy. Even if that means cheating with illegal drugs just for a chance at larger amounts of money. Same goes for players with the talent level of A-Rod and others.
We shall see how well he can play with the mounting pressure of Roids hanging over his and others head.
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BUT...The ONLY reason he was upfront was to make some money off of it. He had a beef with baseball and everyone he felt wronged him, so THAT is why he wrote the book. Not sure that is being up front about steriod use in my eyes. He had everything to gain, while everyone else is losing...Right wrong or indifferent, I see them all in the same light...F-ING cheaters who didnt have the stones to do it the right way like it was intended...imho...:)
For these ballers it's a dog eat dog world out there and these players want to use every advantage to get ahead of the next guy. Even if that means cheating with illegal drugs just for a chance at larger amounts of money. Same goes for players with the talent level of A-Rod and others.
We shall see how well he can play with the mounting pressure of Roids hanging over his and others head.
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While I agree it is a dog eat dog world, there are PLENTY of guys who are doing it clean that are good. The problem I have is integrity. There are very few that seem to have it. I dont care about the pressure and all that comes with it. Sack up, be a man and do the BEST YOU CAN. If that isnt good enough, then fuckem, but as a fan, it is good enough for me! I for one hope it comes out that Arod did them and he falls flat on his face. ps...in no way is my little rant directed at you...I am just sayin!! haha I am a purist, and this shit tears me up, I love this game and I hate to see what has happened to it...
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Babe Ruth also lost a couple hundred home runs from his career totals because of rule changes and not having modern medicine. He hurt his knee early in his career and would have received routine surgery now in the offseason instead of hobbling around in the later years of his career.
Great point. That's why I think we shouldn't even try to compare eras. Babe had advantages and disadvantages....just like everyone else we've considered a superstar.
Glad A-FRAUD-ROID is playing for the Yankees instead of the Sox he would have been a total embarassment for the team.
Yes it would have been.........but that doesn't mean your Sox don't have/haven't had juicers. It only stands to reason....and that's what drives me crazy....you're golden, one day (A-Rod) and then shit when the truth comes out. Someday, a juicer will get into the HOF....only because he was never found out. Pudge, maybe? Anyway, I would love to see however it is, finally man up and say "guess what? I wasn't clean. You voters are not only clueless, you stood by, jock sniffing, while all this went on."
I don't see the Red Sox as a juice team....but, off the top of my head, I think you have to look hard at anyone who has played for the Astros, Rangers, Mariners, Giants, Angels, Orioles, Braves, Cubs, Mets, Yankees, Phillies, A's, Padres, Cardinals and Blue Jays....those teams (and no doubt more) have had a steroid culture during at least some point in the past 20 years :shock:. And the others (Reds, Pirates, Royals, etc.) have probably just flown under the radar, due to being crappy teams in smaller markets.
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While I agree it is a dog eat dog world, there are PLENTY of guys who are doing it clean that are good.
Oh, tradeking..... so naive.
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Babe Ruth also lost a couple hundred home runs from his career totals because of rule changes and not having modern medicine. He hurt his knee early in his career and would have received routine surgery now in the offseason instead of hobbling around in the later years of his career.
Great point. That's why I think we shouldn't even try to compare eras. Babe had advantages and disadvantages....just like everyone else we've considered a superstar.
Glad A-FRAUD-ROID is playing for the Yankees instead of the Sox he would have been a total embarassment for the team.
Yes it would have been.........but that doesn't mean your Sox don't have/haven't had juicers. It only stands to reason....and that's what drives me crazy....you're golden, one day (A-Rod) and then shit when the truth comes out. Someday, a juicer will get into the HOF....only because he was never found out. Pudge, maybe? Anyway, I would love to see however it is, finally man up and say "guess what? I wasn't clean. You voters are not only clueless, you stood by, jock sniffing, while all this went on."
I don't see the Red Sox as a juice team....but, off the top of my head, I think you have to look hard at anyone who has played for the Astros, Rangers, Mariners, Giants, Angels, Braves, Cubs, Mets, Yankees, Phillies, A's, Padres, Cardinals and Blue Jays....those teams (and no doubt more) have had a steroid culture during at least some point in the past 20 years :shock:. And the others (Reds, Pirates, Royals, etc.) have probably just flown under the radar, due to being crappy teams in smaller markets.
How could you not see the Red Sox as a juice team?
Why does everyone want him to say he did it? He doesn't have to do anything. Those records were supposed to be anonymous and sealed. Unless the rest of the names are released. He could deny. Although if those other name are released. Then he'll go through the same thing Roger is going through.
How could you not see the Red Sox as a juice team?
I just don't...not a fan, so I don't really follow their players....and the team, as a whole, has probably been lucky so far.
But as I said, it would be oh-so-naive to not think some current or past Sox have not benefited from PEDs.
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Babe Ruth also lost a couple hundred home runs from his career totals because of rule changes and not having modern medicine. He hurt his knee early in his career and would have received routine surgery now in the offseason instead of hobbling around in the later years of his career.
Great point. That's why I think we shouldn't even try to compare eras. Babe had advantages and disadvantages....just like everyone else we've considered a superstar.
Glad A-FRAUD-ROID is playing for the Yankees instead of the Sox he would have been a total embarassment for the team.
Yes it would have been.........but that doesn't mean your Sox don't have/haven't had juicers. It only stands to reason....and that's what drives me crazy....you're golden, one day (A-Rod) and then shit when the truth comes out. Someday, a juicer will get into the HOF....only because he was never found out. Pudge, maybe? Anyway, I would love to see however it is, finally man up and say "guess what? I wasn't clean. You voters are not only clueless, you stood by, jock sniffing, while all this went on."
I don't see the Red Sox as a juice team....but, off the top of my head, I think you have to look hard at anyone who has played for the Astros, Rangers, Mariners, Giants, Angels, Orioles, Braves, Cubs, Mets, Yankees, Phillies, A's, Padres, Cardinals and Blue Jays....those teams (and no doubt more) have had a steroid culture during at least some point in the past 20 years :shock:. And the others (Reds, Pirates, Royals, etc.) have probably just flown under the radar, due to being crappy teams in smaller markets.
I'm pretty sure there has been Sox players who used roids and probably some right now. At this time it is not known yet and if that comes to light I would be embarassed to STILL have that player on the team.
There isn't a team in MLB that was free of steriods, from the major stars to the player in the minor leagues trying to get to the majors. IMO.
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Babe Ruth also lost a couple hundred home runs from his career totals because of rule changes and not having modern medicine. He hurt his knee early in his career and would have received routine surgery now in the offseason instead of hobbling around in the later years of his career.
Great point. That's why I think we shouldn't even try to compare eras. Babe had advantages and disadvantages....just like everyone else we've considered a superstar.
Glad A-FRAUD-ROID is playing for the Yankees instead of the Sox he would have been a total embarassment for the team.
Yes it would have been.........but that doesn't mean your Sox don't have/haven't had juicers. It only stands to reason....and that's what drives me crazy....you're golden, one day (A-Rod) and then shit when the truth comes out. Someday, a juicer will get into the HOF....only because he was never found out. Pudge, maybe? Anyway, I would love to see however it is, finally man up and say "guess what? I wasn't clean. You voters are not only clueless, you stood by, jock sniffing, while all this went on."
I don't see the Red Sox as a juice team....but, off the top of my head, I think you have to look hard at anyone who has played for the Astros, Rangers, Mariners, Giants, Angels, Orioles, Braves, Cubs, Mets, Yankees, Phillies, A's, Padres, Cardinals and Blue Jays....those teams (and no doubt more) have had a steroid culture during at least some point in the past 20 years :shock:. And the others (Reds, Pirates, Royals, etc.) have probably just flown under the radar, due to being crappy teams in smaller markets.
I'm pretty sure there has been Sox players who used roids and probably some right now. At this time it is not known yet and if that comes to light I would be embarassed to STILL have that player on the team.
There isn't a team in MLB that was free of steriods, from the major stars to the player in the minor leagues trying to get to the majors. IMO.
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good point man. juicing as of 2/7/09 is mostly clean. i think the mlb should just forget about anyone that did steroids because there was obviously way too much of it going on. which means, forget people doing steroids in 2003, leave barry alone, vote mcgwire in, and give canseco some dignity back. ....again, this is just my opinion. this wont be looked back on as being a good era in the greatest sport in the world.
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good point man. juicing as of 2/7/09 is mostly clean. i think the mlb should just forget about anyone that did steroids because there was obviously way too much of it going on. which means, forget people doing steroids in 2003, leave barry alone, vote mcgwire in, and give canseco some dignity back. ....again, this is just my opinion. this wont be looked back on as being a good era in the greatest sport in the world.
Agree with most of what you say except..........................the chemists are always going to be ahead of the drug police. WADA had no idea what Balco was doing until Trevor Graham (?) mailed them a used syringe.
IMHO, this train has long since left the station.
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How could you not see the Red Sox as a juice team?
I'm a Red Sox fan and they have had their incidents:
The feature story in one ESPN the Magazine a couple years ago was about top Sox pitching prospect from 2000 and 2001 Paxton Crawford and how he used steroids and HGH and how it was easy to come about in the Sox clubhouse:
given the magnitude of steroids in the game today, it would be very ignorant and naive of a fan of ANY team to deny that there are steroids in their clubhouse. you have a roster of what, 25 players? i can guarantee that 6-10 of those players are taking them or have taken them at some point in their career.
i personally thought a-rod was clean. and as a yankee fan, no matter how big of a dope he is with his personal life and what not, i always thought in the back of my head... at least he is not taking steroids, at least he is not taking steroids.
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Yeah! They need to cut Phelps a little slack!
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For the record, Arod was a Ranger when these tests were taken ... but, yeah ... the owners and MLB mgmt is complicit in all this.
Actually, I think folks are going to go with A-Roid ... his first trip to Fenway is going to be interesting. Hell, his first AB in Yankee stadium will be intersting.
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I also afraid that he doesn't seem that tough skined to handle the type of scrutiny he is going to receive. The Yankee fans are going to give him shit. Wait until he reaches cites like Boston, they are going to be ruthless!!!
If he does "admit" it, it will probably be the standard "I did it for a very short time to try to recover from an injury and I haven't done it since" BULLSHIT. :roll:
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Babe Ruth also lost a couple hundred home runs from his career totals because of rule changes and not having modern medicine. He hurt his knee early in his career and would have received routine surgery now in the offseason instead of hobbling around in the later years of his career.
Plus back then if a ball hooked around the foul pole in fair territory and landed foul like many of David Ortiz's homers, it was ruled a foul ball. It was only a home run if the ball landed between the poles. Also back then if you hit a walk off homer, it didn't count as a homer unless the batter's run was the go ahead run. And that doesn't even take into account the much smaller parks nowadays. Ruth probably should have finished with well over 900 home runs.
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I have to say this I respect Jose Canseco more these days for being up front with his steriod use. Yes it was wrong but at the very least he came forward with what he did and made some money in the mean time.
Now A-Fraud-roid along with Clemons and Bonds and others all steadfastly denied using steriods however it appears to be quite differently now.
Glad A-FRAUD-ROID is playing for the Yankees instead of the Sox he would have been a total embarassment for the team.
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BUT...The ONLY reason he was upfront was to make some money off of it. He had a beef with baseball and everyone he felt wronged him, so THAT is why he wrote the book. Not sure that is being up front about steriod use in my eyes. He had everything to gain, while everyone else is losing...Right wrong or indifferent, I see them all in the same light...F-ING cheaters who didnt have the stones to do it the right way like it was intended...imho...:)
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For these ballers it's a dog eat dog world out there and these players want to use every advantage to get ahead of the next guy. Even if that means cheating with illegal drugs just for a chance at larger amounts of money. Same goes for players with the talent level of A-Rod and others.
We shall see how well he can play with the mounting pressure of Roids hanging over his and others head.
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While I agree it is a dog eat dog world, there are PLENTY of guys who are doing it clean that are good. The problem I have is integrity. There are very few that seem to have it. I dont care about the pressure and all that comes with it. Sack up, be a man and do the BEST YOU CAN. If that isnt good enough, then fuckem, but as a fan, it is good enough for me! I for one hope it comes out that Arod did them and he falls flat on his face. ps...in no way is my little rant directed at you...I am just sayin!! haha I am a purist, and this shit tears me up, I love this game and I hate to see what has happened to it...
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Great point. That's why I think we shouldn't even try to compare eras. Babe had advantages and disadvantages....just like everyone else we've considered a superstar.
Yes it would have been.........but that doesn't mean your Sox don't have/haven't had juicers. It only stands to reason....and that's what drives me crazy....you're golden, one day (A-Rod) and then shit when the truth comes out. Someday, a juicer will get into the HOF....only because he was never found out. Pudge, maybe? Anyway, I would love to see however it is, finally man up and say "guess what? I wasn't clean. You voters are not only clueless, you stood by, jock sniffing, while all this went on."
I don't see the Red Sox as a juice team....but, off the top of my head, I think you have to look hard at anyone who has played for the Astros, Rangers, Mariners, Giants, Angels, Orioles, Braves, Cubs, Mets, Yankees, Phillies, A's, Padres, Cardinals and Blue Jays....those teams (and no doubt more) have had a steroid culture during at least some point in the past 20 years :shock:. And the others (Reds, Pirates, Royals, etc.) have probably just flown under the radar, due to being crappy teams in smaller markets.
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Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
Oh, tradeking..... so naive.
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VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
How could you not see the Red Sox as a juice team?
I just don't...not a fan, so I don't really follow their players....and the team, as a whole, has probably been lucky so far.
But as I said, it would be oh-so-naive to not think some current or past Sox have not benefited from PEDs.
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VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
I'm pretty sure there has been Sox players who used roids and probably some right now. At this time it is not known yet and if that comes to light I would be embarassed to STILL have that player on the team.
There isn't a team in MLB that was free of steriods, from the major stars to the player in the minor leagues trying to get to the majors. IMO.
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HGH a drug? Whats an A Rod?
Pardon my lack of knowledge
Agree with most of what you say except..........................the chemists are always going to be ahead of the drug police. WADA had no idea what Balco was doing until Trevor Graham (?) mailed them a used syringe.
IMHO, this train has long since left the station.
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
My guess... I'm gonna go with the Sox and Mets fans going with the 'A-ROID' chant to the tune of the 'DAR-RYL' Chant.
Hail, Hail!!!
who ever it was who was supplying the steroids to sammy sosa....
has to be one stand up guy...(as far as drug dealers are concerned)
because its been 10 years since sammy hit 60 homers for the 1st time(he is the only guy to hit 60 homers in three seasons).......
and sammys name never comes up.......
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
Nevermind....I worked out the A Rod part of it
I'm a Red Sox fan and they have had their incidents:
The feature story in one ESPN the Magazine a couple years ago was about top Sox pitching prospect from 2000 and 2001 Paxton Crawford and how he used steroids and HGH and how it was easy to come about in the Sox clubhouse:
http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/r ... mes_1.html
And you had the Manny Alexander story:
http://archives.cnn.com/2000/LOCAL/nort ... .steroids/
and plus Canseco was on the Sox in 95 and 96 so who knows what was happening then.
I think most of the current Sox are clean, but in the late 90's / early part of this decade steroids were in the Sox clubhouse.
- 8/28/98
- 9/2/00
- 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
- 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
- 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
- 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
- 8/2/07, 8/5/07
- 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
- 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
- 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
- 9/11/11, 9/12/11
- 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
i personally thought a-rod was clean. and as a yankee fan, no matter how big of a dope he is with his personal life and what not, i always thought in the back of my head... at least he is not taking steroids, at least he is not taking steroids.
There is NO team 100% clean.
Go Sox!