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  • ZodZod Posts: 10,588
    Got my replacement Live in Japan vinyl today.   It's mint and sounds much better.  They handled that amazingly well.
  • FR181798FR181798 Posts: 2,166
    Japan vinyl arrived today. Quality control leaves a bit to be desired on these. A few things you would expect to be better for the money but it mainly comes down to using old equipment, stuff like a blunt trimmer that has left them quite literally rough around the edges. Will give them a spin later and check if anything affects play. Just a few things on these that are hopefully just cosmetic flaws.
  • Japan sounds pretty fucking awesome! 
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  • FR181798FR181798 Posts: 2,166
    edited May 2022
    Japan sounds pretty fucking awesome! 
    Hope so, one of my LP2s is a little weirdly trimmed so right on the rim its almost scuffed all the way around giving it a sort of pale matt edge instead of being glossy like the others. The scuffing runs a little onto the run in groove as well so hopefully it doesn't affect that.


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  • drakeheuer14drakeheuer14 Posts: 4,468
    Tour with Janes Addiction this fall! 2 bands I have not seen yet. More excited for JA, but SP are cool too 
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  • ZodZod Posts: 10,588
    I'm really temped to try to go to the SP show in Vancouver.  Only problem is I don't know anyone else that's still into the pumpkins enough to go.
  • erebuserebus Posts: 566
    Zod said:
    I'm really temped to try to go to the SP show in Vancouver.  Only problem is I don't know anyone else that's still into the pumpkins enough to go.
    Go by yourself,  no shame in that.
    Caught the Pumpkins a couple years ago, great show. Saw Jane's and NIN together awhile back also, fantastic!
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  • erebus said:
    Zod said:
    I'm really temped to try to go to the SP show in Vancouver.  Only problem is I don't know anyone else that's still into the pumpkins enough to go.
    Go by yourself,  no shame in that.
    Caught the Pumpkins a couple years ago, great show. Saw Jane's and NIN together awhile back also, fantastic!
    i'm in this same boat a LOT. almost all the friends I used to go to shows with no longer go to shows, at all. And I go to them all, lol. I go to shows alone quite often, and frankly, I'm about at the end of my rope with it. No shame in it, but it's not as interesting. 
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  • FR181798FR181798 Posts: 2,166
    FR181798 said:
    Japan sounds pretty fucking awesome! 
    Hope so, one of my LP2s is a little weirdly trimmed so right on the rim its almost scuffed all the way around giving it a sort of pale matt edge instead of being glossy like the others. The scuffing runs a little onto the run in groove as well so hopefully it doesn't affect that.


    UPDATE it does indeed sound awesome.
  • ZodZod Posts: 10,588
    erebus said:
    Zod said:
    I'm really temped to try to go to the SP show in Vancouver.  Only problem is I don't know anyone else that's still into the pumpkins enough to go.
    Go by yourself,  no shame in that.
    Caught the Pumpkins a couple years ago, great show. Saw Jane's and NIN together awhile back also, fantastic!
    i'm in this same boat a LOT. almost all the friends I used to go to shows with no longer go to shows, at all. And I go to them all, lol. I go to shows alone quite often, and frankly, I'm about at the end of my rope with it. No shame in it, but it's not as interesting. 

    I guess it's not so much going to the show solo.  I live in a smaller city on an Island, so it means doing a whole trip solo including overnighting somewhere.  Not as much fun to do on one's own.

    I think I've got 1 or 2 people to go with me now. Challenge is figuring out the presale code(s) today and trying to buy tickets while i'm boarding an airplane.. lol.
  • Zod said:
    erebus said:
    Zod said:
    I'm really temped to try to go to the SP show in Vancouver.  Only problem is I don't know anyone else that's still into the pumpkins enough to go.
    Go by yourself,  no shame in that.
    Caught the Pumpkins a couple years ago, great show. Saw Jane's and NIN together awhile back also, fantastic!
    i'm in this same boat a LOT. almost all the friends I used to go to shows with no longer go to shows, at all. And I go to them all, lol. I go to shows alone quite often, and frankly, I'm about at the end of my rope with it. No shame in it, but it's not as interesting. 

    I guess it's not so much going to the show solo.  I live in a smaller city on an Island, so it means doing a whole trip solo including overnighting somewhere.  Not as much fun to do on one's own.

    I think I've got 1 or 2 people to go with me now. Challenge is figuring out the presale code(s) today and trying to buy tickets while i'm boarding an airplane.. lol.
    right. yeah, I've never gone on a trip on my own to see a band (well, I travelled alone, but my buddy met me on my travels). that would be....interesting. 
    new album "Cigarettes" out Spring 2025!

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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,355
    Zod said:
    erebus said:
    Zod said:
    I'm really temped to try to go to the SP show in Vancouver.  Only problem is I don't know anyone else that's still into the pumpkins enough to go.
    Go by yourself,  no shame in that.
    Caught the Pumpkins a couple years ago, great show. Saw Jane's and NIN together awhile back also, fantastic!
    i'm in this same boat a LOT. almost all the friends I used to go to shows with no longer go to shows, at all. And I go to them all, lol. I go to shows alone quite often, and frankly, I'm about at the end of my rope with it. No shame in it, but it's not as interesting. 

    I guess it's not so much going to the show solo.  I live in a smaller city on an Island, so it means doing a whole trip solo including overnighting somewhere.  Not as much fun to do on one's own.

    I think I've got 1 or 2 people to go with me now. Challenge is figuring out the presale code(s) today and trying to buy tickets while i'm boarding an airplane.. lol.
    right. yeah, I've never gone on a trip on my own to see a band (well, I travelled alone, but my buddy met me on my travels). that would be....interesting. 
    I did the 4 Florida PJ shows by myself but luckily ended meeting up w some friends so I was never alone at them which was good but I was prepared!
  • DissidentRival74DissidentRival74 Posts: 150
    edited May 2022
    Zod said:
    erebus said:
    Zod said:
    I'm really temped to try to go to the SP show in Vancouver.  Only problem is I don't know anyone else that's still into the pumpkins enough to go.
    Go by yourself,  no shame in that.
    Caught the Pumpkins a couple years ago, great show. Saw Jane's and NIN together awhile back also, fantastic!
    i'm in this same boat a LOT. almost all the friends I used to go to shows with no longer go to shows, at all. And I go to them all, lol. I go to shows alone quite often, and frankly, I'm about at the end of my rope with it. No shame in it, but it's not as interesting. 

    I guess it's not so much going to the show solo.  I live in a smaller city on an Island, so it means doing a whole trip solo including overnighting somewhere.  Not as much fun to do on one's own.

    I think I've got 1 or 2 people to go with me now. Challenge is figuring out the presale code(s) today and trying to buy tickets while i'm boarding an airplane.. lol.
    right. yeah, I've never gone on a trip on my own to see a band (well, I travelled alone, but my buddy met me on my travels). that would be....interesting. 
    I drove solo from Oregon down to San Fran to catch the Saturday 2003 Bridge. Worked out great bc the buddy who let me crash knew some cops who got us into the Sunday show for $20. 

    Also drove to Portland solo (about a 3 hour trip) to catch Cypress Hill play basically a bar (Crystal Ballroom in McMenamin's brewery).  That was worth it too, to be honest, one of the best concerts i have ever been to.

    But back to point - i'm trying to decide if i want to pull the trigger on this one.  I've never seen Jane's Addiction and have always wanted to, but this is right around the wedding anniversary and wife's not really a fan of either Pumpkins or Janes, so might be a hard sell, LOL..
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  • Zod said:
    erebus said:
    Zod said:
    I'm really temped to try to go to the SP show in Vancouver.  Only problem is I don't know anyone else that's still into the pumpkins enough to go.
    Go by yourself,  no shame in that.
    Caught the Pumpkins a couple years ago, great show. Saw Jane's and NIN together awhile back also, fantastic!
    i'm in this same boat a LOT. almost all the friends I used to go to shows with no longer go to shows, at all. And I go to them all, lol. I go to shows alone quite often, and frankly, I'm about at the end of my rope with it. No shame in it, but it's not as interesting. 

    I guess it's not so much going to the show solo.  I live in a smaller city on an Island, so it means doing a whole trip solo including overnighting somewhere.  Not as much fun to do on one's own.

    I think I've got 1 or 2 people to go with me now. Challenge is figuring out the presale code(s) today and trying to buy tickets while i'm boarding an airplane.. lol.
    right. yeah, I've never gone on a trip on my own to see a band (well, I travelled alone, but my buddy met me on my travels). that would be....interesting. 
    I drove solo from Oregon down to San Fran to catch the Saturday 2003 Bridge. Worked out great bc the buddy who let me crash knew some cops who got us into the Sunday show for $20. 

    Also drove to Portland solo (about a 3 hour trip) to catch Cypress Hill play basically a bar (Crystal Ballroom in McMenamin's brewery).  That was worth it too, to be honest, one of the best concerts i have ever been to.

    But back to point - i'm trying to decide if i want to pull the trigger on this one.  I've never seen Jane's Addiction and have always wanted to, but this is right around the wedding anniversary and wife's not really a fan of either Pumpkins or Janes, so might be a hard sell, LOL..
    if Taylor Hawkins and Chris Cornell have taught me anything, it's don't wait for the "next time" (TOTD, BIG MISTAKE). I've never seen Jane's either. I'd love to. I hope one day they come to my neck of the woods. 
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  • if Taylor Hawkins and Chris Cornell have taught me anything, it's don't wait for the "next time" (TOTD, BIG MISTAKE). I've never seen Jane's either. I'd love to. I hope one day they come to my neck of the woods. 


    that's true, learned that the hard way not, nor ever, getting to see Layne and AIC and Shannon and Blind Melon....
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  • Cropduster-80Cropduster-80 Posts: 2,034
    Tour with Janes Addiction this fall! 2 bands I have not seen yet. More excited for JA, but SP are cool too 
    That presale was easy. Got about the best “seats” possible as I didn’t want the floor 
  • hihobibohihobibo Posts: 1,092
    Tour with Janes Addiction this fall! 2 bands I have not seen yet. More excited for JA, but SP are cool too 
    That presale was easy. Got about the best “seats” possible as I didn’t want the floor 
    Same. Floor prices in Tampa were $142+fees. I went with the $95 seats, which came out to $125 after fees. 
  • Cropduster-80Cropduster-80 Posts: 2,034
    edited May 2022
    hihobibo said:
    Tour with Janes Addiction this fall! 2 bands I have not seen yet. More excited for JA, but SP are cool too 
    That presale was easy. Got about the best “seats” possible as I didn’t want the floor 
    Same. Floor prices in Tampa were $142+fees. I went with the $95 seats, which came out to $125 after fees. 
    I think they are going to struggle to sell out arenas.

    if I was guessing, upper deck gets closed. I was actually at a Bruce Springsteen concert about 15 years ago (coincidentally at the same arena) where that happened.  I think it may happen with this. 

    In Houston floor and seats (the good ones) were the same price 
    Post edited by Cropduster-80 on
  • BC is going to have another tantrum and quit the music biz again if he has trouble selling this tour.  :D
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  • drakeheuer14drakeheuer14 Posts: 4,468
    Tour with Janes Addiction this fall! 2 bands I have not seen yet. More excited for JA, but SP are cool too 
    That presale was easy. Got about the best “seats” possible as I didn’t want the floor 
    It was, but there was definitely some dynamic pricing nonsense going on with it. Prices were changing as I thought about how much I wanted to spend. Went with the cheapest at $49 and I am hoping that…

    hihobibo said:
    Tour with Janes Addiction this fall! 2 bands I have not seen yet. More excited for JA, but SP are cool too 
    That presale was easy. Got about the best “seats” possible as I didn’t want the floor 
    Same. Floor prices in Tampa were $142+fees. I went with the $95 seats, which came out to $125 after fees. 
    I think they are going to struggle to sell out arenas.

    if I was guessing, upper deck gets closed. I was actually at a Bruce Springsteen concert about 15 years ago (coincidentally at the same arena) where that happened.  I think it may happen with this. 

    In Houston floor and seats (the good ones) were the same price 
    this scenario might play out and I get upgraded for free to lower bowl. I didn’t make it to SP last time they played Atlanta, but I am pretty sure it sold terribly because I watched it for a bit hoping I could go in the end. 
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  • Cropduster-80Cropduster-80 Posts: 2,034
    edited May 2022
    Tour with Janes Addiction this fall! 2 bands I have not seen yet. More excited for JA, but SP are cool too 
    That presale was easy. Got about the best “seats” possible as I didn’t want the floor 
    It was, but there was definitely some dynamic pricing nonsense going on with it. Prices were changing as I thought about how much I wanted to spend. Went with the cheapest at $49 and I am hoping that…

    hihobibo said:
    Tour with Janes Addiction this fall! 2 bands I have not seen yet. More excited for JA, but SP are cool too 
    That presale was easy. Got about the best “seats” possible as I didn’t want the floor 
    Same. Floor prices in Tampa were $142+fees. I went with the $95 seats, which came out to $125 after fees. 
    I think they are going to struggle to sell out arenas.

    if I was guessing, upper deck gets closed. I was actually at a Bruce Springsteen concert about 15 years ago (coincidentally at the same arena) where that happened.  I think it may happen with this. 

    In Houston floor and seats (the good ones) were the same price 
    this scenario might play out and I get upgraded for free to lower bowl. I didn’t make it to SP last time they played Atlanta, but I am pretty sure it sold terribly because I watched it for a bit hoping I could go in the end. 
    I didn’t see any dynamic pricing going on on the presale, however the premium seats link that I just checked are listed at 288 each one row behind me. 
    In the presale it was 150 floor/lowers, 95, and I think a 3rd price level.  I assume that’s face 

    I can’t see anywhere though what face value for each ticket level even is 
  • CROJAM95CROJAM95 Posts: 9,870
    Almost bought tix for UBS arena show

    decided to wait & make a score closer to the date

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  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,925
    hihobibo said:
    Tour with Janes Addiction this fall! 2 bands I have not seen yet. More excited for JA, but SP are cool too 
    That presale was easy. Got about the best “seats” possible as I didn’t want the floor 
    Same. Floor prices in Tampa were $142+fees. I went with the $95 seats, which came out to $125 after fees. 
    I think they are going to struggle to sell out arenas.


    Its 15 minutes into the on sale in Boston, and they had presales yesterday, and the ticket map looks like they've sold maybe 500 tickets out of 15,000 or whatever the capacity is (not selling anything behind stage).

    Woof.
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  • pledgeagrievancepledgeagrievance Posts: 2,861
    Zod said:
    erebus said:
    Zod said:
    I'm really temped to try to go to the SP show in Vancouver.  Only problem is I don't know anyone else that's still into the pumpkins enough to go.
    Go by yourself,  no shame in that.
    Caught the Pumpkins a couple years ago, great show. Saw Jane's and NIN together awhile back also, fantastic!
    i'm in this same boat a LOT. almost all the friends I used to go to shows with no longer go to shows, at all. And I go to them all, lol. I go to shows alone quite often, and frankly, I'm about at the end of my rope with it. No shame in it, but it's not as interesting. 

    I guess it's not so much going to the show solo.  I live in a smaller city on an Island, so it means doing a whole trip solo including overnighting somewhere.  Not as much fun to do on one's own.

    I think I've got 1 or 2 people to go with me now. Challenge is figuring out the presale code(s) today and trying to buy tickets while i'm boarding an airplane.. lol.
    right. yeah, I've never gone on a trip on my own to see a band (well, I travelled alone, but my buddy met me on my travels). that would be....interesting. 
    I drove solo from Oregon down to San Fran to catch the Saturday 2003 Bridge. Worked out great bc the buddy who let me crash knew some cops who got us into the Sunday show for $20. 

    Also drove to Portland solo (about a 3 hour trip) to catch Cypress Hill play basically a bar (Crystal Ballroom in McMenamin's brewery).  That was worth it too, to be honest, one of the best concerts i have ever been to.

    But back to point - i'm trying to decide if i want to pull the trigger on this one.  I've never seen Jane's Addiction and have always wanted to, but this is right around the wedding anniversary and wife's not really a fan of either Pumpkins or Janes, so might be a hard sell, LOL..
    Janes is good live. Worth the time. But they play very short sets. Last time I saw them they barely broke an hour. 
  • Cropduster-80Cropduster-80 Posts: 2,034
    Poncier said:
    hihobibo said:
    Tour with Janes Addiction this fall! 2 bands I have not seen yet. More excited for JA, but SP are cool too 
    That presale was easy. Got about the best “seats” possible as I didn’t want the floor 
    Same. Floor prices in Tampa were $142+fees. I went with the $95 seats, which came out to $125 after fees. 
    I think they are going to struggle to sell out arenas.


    Its 15 minutes into the on sale in Boston, and they had presales yesterday, and the ticket map looks like they've sold maybe 500 tickets out of 15,000 or whatever the capacity is (not selling anything behind stage).

    Woof.
    Same in Houston.  Floor B (dead center) row 8 available 20 minutes in 
  • ZodZod Posts: 10,588
    edited May 2022
    Yah we got row 6 on the floor in the section on the right.  Pretty happy with the seat location.

    Not sure if it was that easy to get tix because presale passwords weren't widely known?  I only figured it out by trying some posted on reddit (FINALE worked for the vancouver show).

    Not sure SP if an Arena sized band anymore, but hope it doesn't get cancelled (There was one in Vancouver that got cancelled years ago for low ticket sales :( )
  • Cropduster-80Cropduster-80 Posts: 2,034
    edited May 2022
    Zod said:
    Yah we got row 6 on the floor in the section on the right.  Pretty happy with the seat location.

    Not sure if it was that easy to get tix because presale passwords weren't widely known?  I only figured it out by trying some posted on reddit (FINALE worked for the vancouver show).

    Not sure SP if an Arena sized band anymore, but hope it doesn't get cancelled (There was one in Vancouver that got cancelled years ago for low ticket sales :( )
    I would be all over those great floor seats if my concert partner wasn’t my wife.  She hates floor so it’s lowers or I go solo.  

    No idea what happens when it doesn’t sell out. Cancel or downgrade venues? I can’t imagine BC will go on stage to 3,000 fans in an arena 
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  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,925
    Zod said:


    Not sure if it was that easy to get tix because presale passwords weren't widely known?  I only figured it out by trying some posted on reddit (FINALE worked for the vancouver show).

    Finale was the Live Nation presale password. Was sent out to millions via email.
    I think the ease of getting tix is due to low demand. They definitely overshot by booking arenas for this tour.
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,355
    Looking at prices and I guess dynamic is still going because $3-500 floor seats are not going to sell with these bands...

    Even the $95 seats were a wee bit too far to command those prices.

    I'll wait.
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