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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,537
    Purchased too.  Unsigned.
  • FR181798
    FR181798 Posts: 2,166
    Tim Simmons said:
    ordered an unsigned. Still a $100 record. wow.

    $130 if you are international. I can't see me buying these all. We are spoilt with the PJ Vault pricing in a way compared to this.
  • Cropduster-80
    Cropduster-80 Posts: 2,034
    edited April 2022
    FR181798 said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    ordered an unsigned. Still a $100 record. wow.

    $130 if you are international. I can't see me buying these all. We are spoilt with the PJ Vault pricing in a way compared to this.
    I think we are spoiled with the PJ vault packaging more than anything.  The PJ vaults at least reasonably look like they could be 100 dollar records

    viper room which is the only SP vault I have, looks cheap 
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,758
    My Viper seemed fine. Not $80 worth, but I've bought plenty of records of similar quality press and sleeve.
  • FR181798
    FR181798 Posts: 2,166
    Vinyl quality of Viper was absolutely fine, always think gold vinyl looks a bit rubbish. Sleeve wasnt great for the money. Ive got plenty of records with similar sleeves but all cost under $30 and plenty with much better sleeves that cost a fraction of these. I think it was a missed opportunity to do more but maybe they will sell a $100 box to store them all in.
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,758
    Man, just reading around on the internet (was looking for some history on the unreleased songs), SP fandom is toxic. I get that Billy's schtick has aged poorly and he's got some weirdo fringe beliefs, but man, I've never seen a larger group of fans have so much hate towards something that they purportedly love. 

    You would think at a certain point if it wasn't fun, you can just walk away. 
  • Cropduster-80
    Cropduster-80 Posts: 2,034
    FR181798 said:
    Vinyl quality of Viper was absolutely fine, always think gold vinyl looks a bit rubbish. Sleeve wasnt great for the money. Ive got plenty of records with similar sleeves but all cost under $30 and plenty with much better sleeves that cost a fraction of these. I think it was a missed opportunity to do more but maybe they will sell a $100 box to store them all in.
    No complaints in the sound department.  That part was outstanding. 
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,599
    Tim Simmons said:
    Man, just reading around on the internet (was looking for some history on the unreleased songs), SP fandom is toxic. I get that Billy's schtick has aged poorly and he's got some weirdo fringe beliefs, but man, I've never seen a larger group of fans have so much hate towards something that they purportedly love. 

    You would think at a certain point if it wasn't fun, you can just walk away. 
    unreleased songs? I read it as songs that hadn't been released by the time of that show (but have been since), and songs that haven't been performed live since. did I misunderstand that?
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  • cp3iverson
    cp3iverson Posts: 8,702
    edited April 2022
    Tim Simmons said:
    Man, just reading around on the internet (was looking for some history on the unreleased songs), SP fandom is toxic. I get that Billy's schtick has aged poorly and he's got some weirdo fringe beliefs, but man, I've never seen a larger group of fans have so much hate towards something that they purportedly love. 

    You would think at a certain point if it wasn't fun, you can just walk away. 

    I remember reading forums when Zwan came out and they were like that too.   Billy is Billy.  He’s the biggest SP fan in the world which actually makes these cool releases happen.  He obviously has an ego.  He thinks he’s side by side with Kurt. Etc.  I tend not to read his interviews and I just enjoy the tunes

    I have no doubt he’s half of the archive team and probably put my record in the mail himself lol.   
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,758
    edited April 2022
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    Man, just reading around on the internet (was looking for some history on the unreleased songs), SP fandom is toxic. I get that Billy's schtick has aged poorly and he's got some weirdo fringe beliefs, but man, I've never seen a larger group of fans have so much hate towards something that they purportedly love. 

    You would think at a certain point if it wasn't fun, you can just walk away. 
    unreleased songs? I read it as songs that hadn't been released by the time of that show (but have been since), and songs that haven't been performed live since. did I misunderstand that?
    So these are all live takes of both songs that saw studio release at some point, and some that didn't. I’d say half of these had a studio version appear as a album cut (Siva), a b-side (honeyspider) or as a Pisces Deluxe bonus track. 

    The rest  haven’t been on any official release (live or studio). But most of the unreleased songs were on the Mashed Potatoes compilation, so if you have that and every official release, you’ve heard pretty much all of this. 

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  • 2-feign-reluctance
    2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,462
    Furnace is expensive to use as a manufacturer. My friend Matt & I explored using them years ago and it was pricey then too just for plain LPs and generic sleeves. 
    www.cluthelee.com
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,599
    Tim Simmons said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    Man, just reading around on the internet (was looking for some history on the unreleased songs), SP fandom is toxic. I get that Billy's schtick has aged poorly and he's got some weirdo fringe beliefs, but man, I've never seen a larger group of fans have so much hate towards something that they purportedly love. 

    You would think at a certain point if it wasn't fun, you can just walk away. 
    unreleased songs? I read it as songs that hadn't been released by the time of that show (but have been since), and songs that haven't been performed live since. did I misunderstand that?
    So these are all live takes of both songs that saw studio release at some point, and some that didn't. I’d say half of these had a studio version appear as a album cut (Siva), a b-side (honeyspider) or as a Pisces Deluxe bonus track. 

    The rest  haven’t been on any official release (live or studio). But most of the unreleased songs were on the Mashed Potatoes compilation, so if you have that and every official release, you’ve heard pretty much all of this. 

    i had that mashed potatoes long ago and then i suffered a hard drive crash. I checked my current library and I don't have most of these. I just checked again and now it's sold out. oh well. 
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  • 2-feign-reluctance
    2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,462
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    Man, just reading around on the internet (was looking for some history on the unreleased songs), SP fandom is toxic. I get that Billy's schtick has aged poorly and he's got some weirdo fringe beliefs, but man, I've never seen a larger group of fans have so much hate towards something that they purportedly love. 

    You would think at a certain point if it wasn't fun, you can just walk away. 
    unreleased songs? I read it as songs that hadn't been released by the time of that show (but have been since), and songs that haven't been performed live since. did I misunderstand that?
    So these are all live takes of both songs that saw studio release at some point, and some that didn't. I’d say half of these had a studio version appear as a album cut (Siva), a b-side (honeyspider) or as a Pisces Deluxe bonus track. 

    The rest  haven’t been on any official release (live or studio). But most of the unreleased songs were on the Mashed Potatoes compilation, so if you have that and every official release, you’ve heard pretty much all of this. 

    i had that mashed potatoes long ago and then i suffered a hard drive crash. I checked my current library and I don't have most of these. I just checked again and now it's sold out. oh well. 
    Will sound eons better than anywhere else these songs have existed prior. Maybe someone will do a quality vinyl rip of releases. 
    www.cluthelee.com
  • Zod
    Zod Posts: 10,909
    Damned expensive, but total FOMO, knowing these limited releases will be hard to obtain after the fact.  This one and the Tool one are crazy expensive.  This one a little cheaper, but hits you with the shipping.  $50 seems higher.   Usually $30 is on the high end of shipping a record to Canada. $15 is a bit low.  Usually it's in the $20's.
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,537
    Zod said:
    Damned expensive, but total FOMO, knowing these limited releases will be hard to obtain after the fact.  This one and the Tool one are crazy expensive.  This one a little cheaper, but hits you with the shipping.  $50 seems higher.   Usually $30 is on the high end of shipping a record to Canada. $15 is a bit low.  Usually it's in the $20's.
    You bought the Fear Tool box set?  I couldn't bring myself to do it.
  • Cropduster-80
    Cropduster-80 Posts: 2,034
    Zod said:
    Damned expensive, but total FOMO, knowing these limited releases will be hard to obtain after the fact.  This one and the Tool one are crazy expensive.  This one a little cheaper, but hits you with the shipping.  $50 seems higher.   Usually $30 is on the high end of shipping a record to Canada. $15 is a bit low.  Usually it's in the $20's.
    I agree, I  bought both.  Both expensive.  I felt less bad paying for the tool set though. Assuming the vinyl quality is the same the tool set just seems more substantial. Weirdly enough, paying more for the tool set seemed like a better deal.  We will see if I feel the same way when I actually get it 
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,624
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Zod said:
    Damned expensive, but total FOMO, knowing these limited releases will be hard to obtain after the fact.  This one and the Tool one are crazy expensive.  This one a little cheaper, but hits you with the shipping.  $50 seems higher.   Usually $30 is on the high end of shipping a record to Canada. $15 is a bit low.  Usually it's in the $20's.
    You bought the Fear Tool box set?  I couldn't bring myself to do it.

    amazon 168 for 5 records. 2 1/2 really. local had it for 162.  beats the shit out of 750 for autographed.

    sooo looking forward to the reissues....
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,537
    mickeyrat said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Zod said:
    Damned expensive, but total FOMO, knowing these limited releases will be hard to obtain after the fact.  This one and the Tool one are crazy expensive.  This one a little cheaper, but hits you with the shipping.  $50 seems higher.   Usually $30 is on the high end of shipping a record to Canada. $15 is a bit low.  Usually it's in the $20's.
    You bought the Fear Tool box set?  I couldn't bring myself to do it.

    amazon 168 for 5 records. 2 1/2 really. local had it for 162.  beats the shit out of 750 for autographed.

    sooo looking forward to the reissues....
    I want a good 10,000 days and Aeinma.  If a regular version of Fear comes out I'll buy that too.  I'm good w Opiate and Undertow.
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,624
    tempo_n_groove said:
    mickeyrat said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Zod said:
    Damned expensive, but total FOMO, knowing these limited releases will be hard to obtain after the fact.  This one and the Tool one are crazy expensive.  This one a little cheaper, but hits you with the shipping.  $50 seems higher.   Usually $30 is on the high end of shipping a record to Canada. $15 is a bit low.  Usually it's in the $20's.
    You bought the Fear Tool box set?  I couldn't bring myself to do it.

    amazon 168 for 5 records. 2 1/2 really. local had it for 162.  beats the shit out of 750 for autographed.

    sooo looking forward to the reissues....
    I want a good 10,000 days and Aeinma.  If a regular version of Fear comes out I'll buy that too.  I'm good w Opiate and Undertow.

    aenima, lateralus(straight up,  non-picture) and 10k....

    got a good aenima boot. and the lat picture disc.
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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,537
    mickeyrat said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    mickeyrat said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Zod said:
    Damned expensive, but total FOMO, knowing these limited releases will be hard to obtain after the fact.  This one and the Tool one are crazy expensive.  This one a little cheaper, but hits you with the shipping.  $50 seems higher.   Usually $30 is on the high end of shipping a record to Canada. $15 is a bit low.  Usually it's in the $20's.
    You bought the Fear Tool box set?  I couldn't bring myself to do it.

    amazon 168 for 5 records. 2 1/2 really. local had it for 162.  beats the shit out of 750 for autographed.

    sooo looking forward to the reissues....
    I want a good 10,000 days and Aeinma.  If a regular version of Fear comes out I'll buy that too.  I'm good w Opiate and Undertow.

    aenima, lateralus(straight up,  non-picture) and 10k....

    got a good aenima boot. and the lat picture disc.
    I forgot about Lateralus, yeah, non picture disc.  I've got a great Salvial boot too.

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