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  • Wobbie
    Wobbie Posts: 31,238
    The Juggler wrote:
    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:
    Pujols 10 year contract
    Fielder 9 year contract
    Texeira 8 year contract

    I wouldn't want any of these.

    glad to have both those dude out of the nl.

    amen. It moves aubrey huff up on the 1B list :lol:
    If I had known then what I know now...

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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,590
    imalive wrote:
    The Juggler wrote:
    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:
    Pujols 10 year contract
    Fielder 9 year contract
    Texeira 8 year contract

    I wouldn't want any of these.

    glad to have both those dude out of the nl.

    amen. It moves aubrey huff up on the 1B list :lol:

    you mean tim whatley?
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,590
    With depth, Valdez becomes expendable

    (AP/Matt Slocum) That Wilson Valdez started 162 games over the previous two seasons only demonstrated the Phillies' need for a durable backup to an aging infield.

    But the Phillies dealt Valdez to Cincinnati for lefthander Jeremy Horst on Wednesday because they believe they have enough cheaper options to fill that role.

    "We decided we were comfortable with the guys we had," Phillies general manager Ruben Amaro Jr. said by phone. "At the same time he had value for us. He served a pretty valuable role for us. But generally, we felt like we had coverage in that area."

    That coverage will start with Michael Martinez, who appeared in 88 games last season and hit .196. Amaro mentioned Freddy Galvis, a top infield prospect, as someone who could ultimately provide depth. And the team has signed Pete Orr, Kevin Frandsen and Hector Luna to minor-league deals.

    All of them are cheaper than Valdez, who signed a one-year, $930,000 deal earlier this month.

    Amaro said he expects Galvis to play every day at triple-A Lehigh Valley to begin the season. But now that Jimmy Rollins is under contract through at least 2014 and Chase Utley is at second through 2013, Galvis' current path to the majors is in a reserve role (barring injury).

    "Once we signed Jimmy, we felt like we have three shortstop options in Martinez, Galvis and Valdez," Amaro said. "So we felt OK and comfortable enough to go ahead an move Valdez."

    Valdez will forever be remembered in Phillies' lore for being the winning pitcher in the 19-inning game against Cincinnati. He was the first player to start a game in the field and win it as pitcher since Babe Ruth in 1921.

    Amaro said Horst will be invited to camp as a non-roster player and compete for a job as a lefthander in the bullpen. In 12 games with Cincinnati, the 26-year-old posted a 2.93 ERA. Lefties had a .988 OPS against him in 22 plate appearances.

    "Our reports on him is the guy had a chance to get lefties out," Amaro said, "and we'll throw him in the mix."

    That mix includes Dontrelle Willis, who is on a non-guaranteed deal, Joe Savery, Jake Diekman and Raul Valdes.
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  • Johnny Abruzzo
    Johnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 12,352
    That fucking exhibition game vs. the Pirates is in my plan this year. Goddamit. :twisted:
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  • JK_Livin
    JK_Livin South Jersey Posts: 7,365
    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:
    That fucking exhibition game vs. the Pirates is in my plan this year. Goddamit. :twisted:

    Same here. I can wait to put them up for sale.
    Alright, alright, alright!
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  • Johnny Abruzzo
    Johnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 12,352
    JK_Livin wrote:
    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:
    That fucking exhibition game vs. the Pirates is in my plan this year. Goddamit. :twisted:

    Same here. I can wait to put them up for sale.

    Last time I had those they let me trade them for a real game (well, buy up), which turned out to be a 20-run romp over the Rox. We'll see if they let me do that again. 20-run games seem like a thing of the past... now you get 20-inning games because nobody can score on Danys Baez or Wilson Valdez. :lol:
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  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,516
    Yeah, I do that every year. You can always trade those tix for another game.
  • JK_Livin
    JK_Livin South Jersey Posts: 7,365
    Bye Brad. Thanks for 2008! "Oh my God, we did it"
    Alright, alright, alright!
    Tom O.
    "I never had any friends later on like the ones I had when I was twelve. Jesus, does anyone?"
    -The Writer
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,022
    Mayo's top 100 prospects came out. LOTS of former Phillie farm hands on the list.
  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,516
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Mayo's top 100 prospects came out. LOTS of former Phillie farm hands on the list.

    Eh, I'm not too worried about it. They'll be back in the top 10-5 of org's in the next couple years.
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,022
    edited January 2012
    Jearlpam0925 wrote:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Mayo's top 100 prospects came out. LOTS of former Phillie farm hands on the list.

    Eh, I'm not too worried about it. They'll be back in the top 10-5 of org's in the next couple years.

    http://www.minorleagueball.com/2012/1/2 ... -prospects

    I dont know about top 5 or 10. So hard for good teams to rebuild the farm. Draft right, get lucky on some later rounds, and they can get up there but being good doesn't help. Not that that's a bad thing. Yankees never really have a top 10 farm and I have seen 5 world series titles.

    Edit: And I don't agree with some of that list. Have a very hard time seeing Bostons system being better than the Yanks right now. I don't get that, at all.
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  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,516
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Jearlpam0925 wrote:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Mayo's top 100 prospects came out. LOTS of former Phillie farm hands on the list.

    Eh, I'm not too worried about it. They'll be back in the top 10-5 of org's in the next couple years.

    http://www.minorleagueball.com/2012/1/2 ... -prospects

    I dont know about top 5 or 10. So hard for good teams to rebuild the farm. Draft right, get lucky on some later rounds, and they can get up there but being good doesn't help. Not that that's a bad thing. Yankees never really have a top 10 farm and I have seen 5 world series titles.

    Welp, all I've known is they've turned those prospects into a 100+ win team. I'm fine with that.
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,022
    Jearlpam0925 wrote:

    Welp, all I've known is they've turned those prospects into a 100+ win team. I'm fine with that.

    No doubt, like I said a system isn't everything, especially for a big market team. I never expect the Yanks to be a top 10 farm system, it's just not really possible with losing picks to free agents and drafting at the end of the round every year. International market is where the Yanks have done damage recently and that will be hurt by the new CBA too, it looks like.
  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,516
    listening to Sandberg talk on CSN. Here's my prediction - Sandberg takes over as bench coach in 2013, Manuel retires after '13, Ryne becomes Phils manager in '14.
  • JK_Livin
    JK_Livin South Jersey Posts: 7,365
    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:
    JK_Livin wrote:
    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:
    That fucking exhibition game vs. the Pirates is in my plan this year. Goddamit. :twisted:

    Same here. I can wait to put them up for sale.

    Last time I had those they let me trade them for a real game (well, buy up), which turned out to be a 20-run romp over the Rox. We'll see if they let me do that again. 20-run games seem like a thing of the past... now you get 20-inning games because nobody can score on Danys Baez or Wilson Valdez. :lol:

    You can do this trough the Phillies website or did you have to call someone?
    Alright, alright, alright!
    Tom O.
    "I never had any friends later on like the ones I had when I was twelve. Jesus, does anyone?"
    -The Writer
  • Johnny Abruzzo
    Johnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 12,352
    JK_Livin wrote:
    You can do this trough the Phillies website or did you have to call someone?

    Think I had to send a letter actually. :lol: I have to call and ask them.
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  • JK_Livin
    JK_Livin South Jersey Posts: 7,365
    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:
    JK_Livin wrote:
    You can do this trough the Phillies website or did you have to call someone?

    Think I had to send a letter actually. :lol: I have to call and ask them.

    How about if I send you a letter and you can forward it to them? :lol:
    Alright, alright, alright!
    Tom O.
    "I never had any friends later on like the ones I had when I was twelve. Jesus, does anyone?"
    -The Writer
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,022
    Have a family thing this weekend so went to the terminal to pick up some Termini Bros cookies. And of course I had to get Di'Nics while I was in there. I love that fucking place.
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,590
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Have a family thing this weekend so went to the terminal to pick up some Termini Bros cookies. And of course I had to get Di'Nics while I was in there. I love that fucking place.

    it doesn't get much better than that. we might check out the car show on sunday....lunch is right there if we do.
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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,022
    The Juggler wrote:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Have a family thing this weekend so went to the terminal to pick up some Termini Bros cookies. And of course I had to get Di'Nics while I was in there. I love that fucking place.

    it doesn't get much better than that. we might check out the car show on sunday....lunch is right there if we do.

    Yeah, man. My work is about a block and a half away. I try to stay away at lunch as much as possible but since I was in there today, of course I had to. Di'Nics has a new setup in there too, a lot more room.
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