***The Official Philadelphia Phillies 2012 Thread***

Johnny Abruzzo

Jearlpam0925 wrote:

A little anecdote, and I certainly don't condone beating the shit out of someone, but a couple of years ago a me and best friend of mine was at Drinker's in Rittenhouse drinking beers all night. I left early because I was the-room-is-spinning drunk and went home to pass out. Wellll, there was some hipster doofus there sporting tight home-made jean shorts, t-shirt, and a biker's hat with the brim flipped up(I know, right?). Well I guess this dude had a problem with my buddy because he wasn't a hipster douche and started talking shit to him, and at some point threw a drink at him. Well, my buddy took it and said whatever dude, but the guy went on and on, and nothing got to my friend(usually he's a little Irish spark plug that would fight Andre the Giant even though he knows he would lose).....but what DID get to him is when the douche sized up my buddy and said, "You yuppy. I bet you're not even from Philly." My boy got livid, said he was from Southwest and asked the douchebag where he was from....the dude said Florida. My buddy was infuriated, watched the dude get drunk, followed the douche home - which was near our place so it wasn't complete stalking - and proceeded to watch the guy start to take a piss in the middle of the street. Welp, my friend stepped in front of him and said, "who's from Philly now?" and right hooked the guy in the face knocking him out in the middle of the street.

Awesome. Yea this guy at the TVOTR show just would not go away. It's like - just let it go - nobody cares what you think.

From Florida - haha. :roll: What a loser.

Where in SW is your boy from? I grew up at 62nd & Buist. The Havertown kids make me laugh - some of them think they're kind of ghetto. SW was full of white thugs in my day.

Wobbie

Jearlpam0925 wrote:

A little anecdote, and I certainly don't condone beating the shit out of someone, but a couple of years ago a me and best friend of mine was at Drinker's in Rittenhouse drinking beers all night. I left early because I was the-room-is-spinning drunk and went home to pass out. Wellll, there was some hipster doofus there sporting tight home-made jean shorts, t-shirt, and a biker's hat with the brim flipped up(I know, right?). Well I guess this dude had a problem with my buddy because he wasn't a hipster douche and started talking shit to him, and at some point threw a drink at him. Well, my buddy took it and said whatever dude, but the guy went on and on, and nothing got to my friend(usually he's a little Irish spark plug that would fight Andre the Giant even though he knows he would lose).....but what DID get to him is when the douche sized up my buddy and said, "You yuppy. I bet you're not even from Philly." My boy got livid, said he was from Southwest and asked the douchebag where he was from....the dude said Florida. My buddy was infuriated, watched the dude get drunk, followed the douche home - which was near our place so it wasn't complete stalking - and proceeded to watch the guy start to take a piss in the middle of the street. Welp, my friend stepped in front of him and said, "who's from Philly now?" and right hooked the guy in the face knocking him out in the middle of the street.

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Jearlpam0925

Johnny Abruzzo wrote:

Jearlpam0925 wrote:

A little anecdote, and I certainly don't condone beating the shit out of someone, but a couple of years ago a me and best friend of mine was at Drinker's in Rittenhouse drinking beers all night. I left early because I was the-room-is-spinning drunk and went home to pass out. Wellll, there was some hipster doofus there sporting tight home-made jean shorts, t-shirt, and a biker's hat with the brim flipped up(I know, right?). Well I guess this dude had a problem with my buddy because he wasn't a hipster douche and started talking shit to him, and at some point threw a drink at him. Well, my buddy took it and said whatever dude, but the guy went on and on, and nothing got to my friend(usually he's a little Irish spark plug that would fight Andre the Giant even though he knows he would lose).....but what DID get to him is when the douche sized up my buddy and said, "You yuppy. I bet you're not even from Philly." My boy got livid, said he was from Southwest and asked the douchebag where he was from....the dude said Florida. My buddy was infuriated, watched the dude get drunk, followed the douche home - which was near our place so it wasn't complete stalking - and proceeded to watch the guy start to take a piss in the middle of the street. Welp, my friend stepped in front of him and said, "who's from Philly now?" and right hooked the guy in the face knocking him out in the middle of the street.

Awesome. Yea this guy at the TVOTR show just would not go away. It's like - just let it go - nobody cares what you think.

From Florida - haha. :roll: What a loser.

Where in SW is your boy from? I grew up at 62nd & Buist. The Havertown kids make me laugh - some of them think they're kind of ghetto. SW was full of white thugs in my day.

He moved out I think when he was like 13 or 14. I think they were around 66th and Dicks. I think he went to St. Barnabus for grade school if that is the right parish around there.

The Juggler

what's that about ladies frames?

Jearlpam0925

The Juggler wrote:

what's that about ladies frames?

May I have one of those, madam? Shit, am I watching a terrible movie on Netflix - 'Middle Men'. Absolutely terrible. Actually, turning this off nnnnnnnnn.......now.

Jearlpam0925

Figured Jimmy would get done right after Cuddyer.

3 yr/33m with a vesting 4th year. Nice job, Amaro.

jamminpearls

Jearlpam0925 wrote:

Figured Jimmy would get done right after Cuddyer.

3 yr/33m with a vesting 4th year. Nice job, Amaro.

3-4yrs of half assing it to 1st while swinging at many first pitch high fastballs.

Jearlpam0925

jamminpearls wrote:

Jearlpam0925 wrote:

Figured Jimmy would get done right after Cuddyer.

3 yr/33m with a vesting 4th year. Nice job, Amaro.

3-4yrs of half assing it to 1st while swinging at many first pitch high fastballs.

No shit, but he's not costing them a shit load and there was no other moves to make.

eeriepadave

Jearlpam0925 wrote:

jamminpearls wrote:

Jearlpam0925 wrote:

Figured Jimmy would get done right after Cuddyer.

3 yr/33m with a vesting 4th year. Nice job, Amaro.

3-4yrs of half assing it to 1st while swinging at many first pitch high fastballs.

No shit, but he's not costing them a shit load and there was no other moves to make.

i'm content with this move

The Fixer

Jearlpam0925 wrote:

This is on my mind. I think it will suck in the short-term but the only decent move for the Phils to get exponentially better offensively is to trade Hamels. As much as I'd hate it, I think it's necessary. How do you lock up another long-term arm and burden your salary constraints with a number as high as Hamels's will be? I don't think you can do that and think you're going to get younger and more talented on the offensive side of the ball.

Someone take the bait. I'm bored.

Yeah, I said I was all for exploring trade options for him.

This team is going into 2012 with the same lineup that failed miserably in the playoffs the last two seasons. Since everyone is a year older, they are probably worse than the last two years. Gonna be really difficult for this team to win it all with this offense. Just not good enough. I wish amaro would realize this.

I would hate to see hamels leave, but I think trading him makes a ton of sense.

The Fixer

Jearlpam0925 wrote:

Cliffy6745 wrote:

Jearlpam0925 wrote:

This is on my mind. I think it will suck in the short-term but the only decent move for the Phils to get exponentially better offensively is to trade Hamels. As much as I'd hate it, I think it's necessary. How do you lock up another long-term arm and burden your salary constraints with a number as high as Hamels's will be? I don't think you can do that and think you're going to get younger and more talented on the offensive side of the ball.

Someone take the bait. I'm bored.

Done. Call Cashman now. In a trade for Hamels, all bets are off. Gardner, Granderson, Montero, Banuelos, Betances, Nova, Noesi and the lower level big time prospects all probably available. Pretty much any type of player you could want in there so there is a lot to pick from. Only one year though, which hurts his value a little.

I was looking around at teams at who would need pitching to get them to contention or put them over the top. This is what I got -

Yanks - would they do Montero AND Benuelos?
Jays - Lawrie and a pitcher like Morrow?
Arizona - Upton
LA - Ethier and a pitcher to go into the rotation?
Reds - Alonso and somone again to go into the rotation like Bailey

I would have taken the package the padres just got for latos

The Fixer

tvismyfriend wrote:

Jearlpam0925 wrote:

polaris_x wrote:

no way AA would make that deal ... we do need another starter ... but trading for one and giving up one doesn't solve that ... and we like lawrie ... if he even comes close to replicating what he did when we brought him up last year ... it'll be awesome ... although injuries are something i see with brett throughout his career ...

Maybe not Morrow, but a back-end rotation guy or pitching prospect could make that deal happen. Hamels makes you a better team in the next 5 years than Lawrie does. He's proven and young. Lawrie is young but not proven.

Lawrie might be the only untouchable player on the team. They're not going to give up on a Canadian with that much potential.

the phils are the ones that would turn down that trade...they could get way more for hamels

The Fixer

Johnny Abruzzo wrote:

I don't think they can trade Hamels. The rest of the staff is going to get old in a couple years and he is just in the start of his prime, having really figured everything out the past 2 years. And he's proven the past 2 years he's a primetime postseason pitcher. Also, the rest of the division is trying to catch up, and nothing gets you to the playoffs better than an ace.

I know it was a real shitty loss to StL but everyone needs to take a deep breath. Baseball playoffs are and always have been a crapshoot.


So, on another note, I'm going to Barcade for a birthday party tomorrow. Enough of this baseball talk.

the last 2 years????? 2008 he carried the phils to a WS. pretty sure that was proof that he's a big game pitcher

The Fixer

polaris_x wrote:

Jearlpam0925 wrote:

Maybe not Morrow, but a back-end rotation guy or pitching prospect could make that deal happen. Hamels makes you a better team in the next 5 years than Lawrie does. He's proven and young. Lawrie is young but not proven.

honestly ... if it was me - i wouldn't trade hamels for lawrie straight up right now ... ...

ridiculous

tvismyfriend

The Fixer wrote:

tvismyfriend wrote:

Jearlpam0925 wrote:

Maybe not Morrow, but a back-end rotation guy or pitching prospect could make that deal happen. Hamels makes you a better team in the next 5 years than Lawrie does. He's proven and young. Lawrie is young but not proven.

Lawrie might be the only untouchable player on the team. They're not going to give up on a Canadian with that much potential.

the phils are the ones that would turn down that trade...they could get way more for hamels

I know that they can get more. I'm just saying that Lawrie probably wouldn't be included in a deal for Hamels. Hamels probably wouldn't sign an extension with the Jays and their not going to give up Lawrie in a package for a rental.

The Fixer

tvismyfriend wrote:

The Fixer wrote:

tvismyfriend wrote:

Lawrie might be the only untouchable player on the team. They're not going to give up on a Canadian with that much potential.

the phils are the ones that would turn down that trade...they could get way more for hamels

I know that they can get more. I'm just saying that Lawrie probably wouldn't be included in a deal for Hamels. Hamels probably wouldn't sign an extension with the Jays and their not going to give up Lawrie in a package for a rental.

I hear what you're saying. That makes sense. I didn't realize you were taking contracts into account.

Wobbie

Jearlpam0925 wrote:

jamminpearls wrote:

Jearlpam0925 wrote:

Figured Jimmy would get done right after Cuddyer.

3 yr/33m with a vesting 4th year. Nice job, Amaro.

3-4yrs of half assing it to 1st while swinging at many first pitch high fastballs.

No shit, but he's not costing them a shit load and there was no other moves to make.

funny how $33M is no longer a "shitload." that's a lot of dough.

The Juggler

welcome back jimmy.

Wobbie

The Juggler wrote:

welcome back jimmy.

we look forward to

jamminpearls wrote:

3-4yrs of half assing it to 1st while swinging at many first pitch high fastballs.

edit: he's making aubrey huff money!!

The Fixer

I'm not even going to bother watching this amaro interview. I'm sure he didn't answer any of the difficult questions. Fully expecting a dog and pony show.