***The Official Philadelphia Phillies 2012 Thread***

Wobbie

The Juggler wrote:

and somebody tell jimmy rollins to stop clogging up my facebook home page. hopped on this morning and dude had about 20 posts about the fucking fight last night. awful.

facebook? :wtf:

I'm a little disappointed in the juggler.

Johnny Abruzzo

The Juggler wrote:

and somebody tell jimmy rollins to stop clogging up my facebook home page. hopped on this morning and dude had about 20 posts about the fucking fight last night. awful.

So defriend him.

Johnny Abruzzo

polaris_x wrote:

i would really like to know who else was in the running for papelbon ... i suspect it's like the real estate racket where no one knows what the other bids so some couple desperate for a house overpays by like 15% ...

these kind of deals just makes it that much harder for small market teams to compete ... it's one thing to have a huge vault to spend ... it's another to set market rates based on that vault ...

Wasn't it the Blue Jays who signed BJ Ryan to that ridiculous contract? This Papelbon thing isn't hurting anyone else because the Phillies are just flushing money down the toilet.

polaris_x

Johnny Abruzzo wrote:

polaris_x wrote:

i would really like to know who else was in the running for papelbon ... i suspect it's like the real estate racket where no one knows what the other bids so some couple desperate for a house overpays by like 15% ...

these kind of deals just makes it that much harder for small market teams to compete ... it's one thing to have a huge vault to spend ... it's another to set market rates based on that vault ...

Wasn't it the Blue Jays who signed BJ Ryan to that ridiculous contract? This Papelbon thing isn't hurting anyone else because the Phillies are just flushing money down the toilet.

oh yeah ... stupid contract for sure ... and you won't get an argument from me ...

i disagree tho in terms of the overall market ... papelbon is getting paid like the second best reliever in the game without second best stats ... so, anyone with stats better than his (and there are plenty) can easily ask for this contract if not more ...

also - it puts a wrench in the trade market because gms are gonna be looking at their relievers and saying - well, this guy is worth x amount ...so, i'm gonna ask more ...

having said all that ... this is mlb and this is how it's been run for a long time ... the good side to this equation is that the phils will get a shitty ROI on this guy and yeah - they will suffer the most from this decision ...

Jearlpam0925

Cliffy6745 wrote:

I have probably been too hard on the beer, was just hoping for something a bit different. I'll put it this way, if this beer didn't have Pearl Jam slapped on the label there are many beers on tap at Dogfish Head that I would drink before it. Bitches Brew is fucking awesome.

Have you looked around recently? It hit shelves in Philly on Thursday, I think. A few places are already out, I believe. I think I heard they are brewing another batch right now.

Great fight last night.

Alright, alright....finally out of my god damn sports depression........to see the Phils signed Papeldouche and the Birds are now 3-6....yet, for some reason I'm alright.

Anyway, yeah, the beer - it's definitely not a good Belgian. Decent beer, but the currant just overpowers the entire taste wayyyy too much. With that said though, I like it in the way that it's like a glorified Miller Lite and would be perfect for a PJ tailgate. Which is what I think this beer should be - the beer I drink in the parking lot for 7 hours before a show.

Oh, and of course because PJ is slapped on this bottle that everyone on the board would love it.

I gotta find the pictures I have of the 20 bottles we bought down in Rehoboth. It's quite the impressive sight.

The Fixer

Pretty accurate summary here. At least we will always have '08

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/Phil ... ncy-111211

Wobbie

so.....paplebon says "it's not about the money" and that he's in philly "to add to (his) ring collection" :roll:

Ledbetterman10

imalive wrote:

so.....paplebon says "it's not about the money" and that he's in philly "to add to (his) ring collection" :roll:

Oh cut the guy some slack. What would you say?

"I'm very pleased that Mr. Amaro is dumb enough to give me this much money and since I won a World Series in '07, I could give a crap if I win another."

pjhawks

Ledbetterman10 wrote:

imalive wrote:

so.....paplebon says "it's not about the money" and that he's in philly "to add to (his) ring collection" :roll:

Oh cut the guy some slack. What would you say?

"I'm very pleased that Mr. Amaro is dumb enough to give me this much money and since I won a World Series in '07, I could give a crap if I win another."

just once i'd love to hear a guy say 'you're damn right it's about the money'

Ledbetterman10

pjhawks wrote:

Ledbetterman10 wrote:

imalive wrote:

so.....paplebon says "it's not about the money" and that he's in philly "to add to (his) ring collection" :roll:

Oh cut the guy some slack. What would you say?

"I'm very pleased that Mr. Amaro is dumb enough to give me this much money and since I won a World Series in '07, I could give a crap if I win another."

just once i'd love to hear a guy say 'you're damn right it's about the money'

Yeah but I think it's only about the money if you take more to go to a crappy team (Jason Werth for example). Papaelbon is getting paid a ridiculous amount AND is going to a contender.

Johnny Abruzzo

I don't blame Papelboner one bit for taking that deal, and I really don't have any problem with that. I have a problem with the moron who gave him the deal.

His ring collection? What, all one of them? Who's he think he is, Michael Jordan?

neilybabes86

Johnny Abruzzo wrote:

I don't blame Papelboner one bit for taking that deal, and I really don't have any problem with that. I have a problem with the moron who gave him the deal.

His ring collection? What, all one of them? Who's he think he is, mariano rivera ?

fixed

Cliffy6745

pjhawks wrote:

Ledbetterman10 wrote:

imalive wrote:

so.....paplebon says "it's not about the money" and that he's in philly "to add to (his) ring collection" :roll:

Oh cut the guy some slack. What would you say?

"I'm very pleased that Mr. Amaro is dumb enough to give me this much money and since I won a World Series in '07, I could give a crap if I win another."

just once i'd love to hear a guy say 'you're damn right it's about the money'

After Burnett signed with the Yankees he said that. He pretty much said, its a dream to play for the Yankees but it is about the money and he's glad the Yankees gave it to him.

Cliffy6745

This looks pretty cool. I'll be hitting this up for sure.

http://winterbeerfest.com/

Johnny Abruzzo

I wish Boner would say he signed with the Phils because of the Lower Merion school district or something like that. (IDK if he even has kids, but whatever)

Cliffy6745

Johnny Abruzzo wrote:

I wish Boner would say he signed with the Phils because of the Lower Merion school district or something like that. (IDK if he even has kids, but whatever)

Funny you should mention this. He has a son, I remember reading about this a couple years ago. He named his son, Gunner, because "it's a bad-ass name". God, I hate that fucking man.

Cliffy6745

This probably isn't great. Definitely coming straight from Boras.

Heyman explains the mess that was the Phillies' negotiations with Madson. He says Phillies GM Ruben Amaro Jr. proposed $44MM over four years, which Madson accepted an hour or two later. Oddly, Amaro added at that point that he needed the approval of CEO David Montgomery, according to Heyman. The next day Amaro told agent Scott Boras he'd been unable to get that approval. However, Amaro told Heyman there was no agreement "either verbal or in writing," and also said, "I will stand by my history of integrity forever." Amaro also said Montgomery was aware of the negotiations as they occurred and wasn't responsible for killing the deal. It appears Amaro and Boras are not on the same page as to what constitutes an agreement.

Johnny Abruzzo

Cliffy6745 wrote:

Johnny Abruzzo wrote:

I wish Boner would say he signed with the Phils because of the Lower Merion school district or something like that. (IDK if he even has kids, but whatever)

Funny you should mention this. He has a son, I remember reading about this a couple years ago. He named his son, Gunner, because "it's a bad-ass name". God, I hate that fucking man.

I still love the Mike Hampton Wheat Ridge School District story. Never gets old.

I told my wife we should pick a badass name for our upcoming arrival, but she wasn't having it. (ok, I actually didn't say that at all)

It seems that all of us on this forum hate the signing (except the Yankee fans), but I don't get the feeling that all of Phillies phandom feels that way, necessarily. Gonna be hard to organize that "boo him in his first home game" thing.

Cliffy6745

Johnny Abruzzo wrote:

Cliffy6745 wrote:

Johnny Abruzzo wrote:

I wish Boner would say he signed with the Phils because of the Lower Merion school district or something like that. (IDK if he even has kids, but whatever)

Funny you should mention this. He has a son, I remember reading about this a couple years ago. He named his son, Gunner, because "it's a bad-ass name". God, I hate that fucking man.

I still love the Mike Hampton Wheat Ridge School District story. Never gets old.

I told my wife we should pick a badass name for our upcoming arrival, but she wasn't having it. (ok, I actually didn't say that at all)

It seems that all of us on this forum hate the signing (except the Yankee fans), but I don't get the feeling that all of Phillies phandom feels that way, necessarily. Gonna be hard to organize that "boo him in his first home game" thing.

Ha, yeah, I meant to say a la Mike Hampton.

Haha, well that is a good thing. Gunner is certainly not a badass name, not when you say you picked it because it's badass.

Yeah, they definitely don't. I was out all weekend with Phillies fans and most have no problem with it and like it, although they all drink the Phillies kool aid.

Wobbie

Johnny Abruzzo wrote:

It seems that all of us on this forum hate the signing (except the Yankee fans), but I don't get the feeling that all of Phillies phandom feels that way, necessarily. Gonna be hard to organize that "boo him in his first home game" thing.

papelbon will save the majority of games he is asked to save....it won't be a total disaster.....it was just a ridiculous signing....plus, he seems to kinda be a dick.