What's wrong with ginger?

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  • OneLove
    OneLove Posts: 563
    Probably. My twin brother is as ginger as ginger can be and he's suffered with other people's 'jokes' (ha de fucking ha :rolleyes: ) and insults for having red hair for years.

    My little bro has hair that was more red than mine growing up (it was fire engine red, and stood straight up as a baby). As far as I know he was never picked on much for it either.

    I used to highlight my hair all the time, and have only recently gotten the last bit of that cut off so I am back to my natural color.

    I have to say I get more compliments on my hair now then I ever did when I had more blonde in my hair. Guys seem to dig it too, with the exception of a certain hyper-opinionated aussie here on the board. ;)

    Oh, and I live in the US.... It would seem that makes a difference.
  • audiodave
    audiodave Posts: 1,623
    I don't think that is necessarily the case, I have a few friends with red hair, and they suffer no real issues because of it. In fact the one mate is incredibly popular with the ladies regardless of his ginger hair. I've just got back from a holiday with a few of them, and one night out these amazingly hot Swedish girls came and asked me and two friends if we wanted to go to a club with them. We happily obliged, and they promptly spent the entire night fawning over my red-head mate - and good for him!
    Are you in the US or UK?
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  • facepollution
    facepollution Posts: 6,834
    audiodave wrote:
    Are you in the US or UK?

    Uk dude.
  • audiodave
    audiodave Posts: 1,623
    Uk dude.
    Fair enough. Thought you were but couldn't remember. It could just be that I come from an area that is 500% white, so there's no one else to pick on.
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  • facepollution
    facepollution Posts: 6,834
    audiodave wrote:
    Fair enough. Thought you were but couldn't remember. It could just be that I come from an area that is 500% white, so there's no one else to pick on.

    Birmingham 500% white?!
  • OneLove
    OneLove Posts: 563
    audiodave wrote:
    Fair enough. Thought you were but couldn't remember. It could just be that I come from an area that is 500% white, so there's no one else to pick on.


    Is there a rule that there must be a group segmented from society to be picked on?
  • audiodave
    audiodave Posts: 1,623
    Birmingham 500% white?!
    LOL no. I'm not from here, i'm from Lincoln. I go to uni here, and have never had a problem here about being ginger. Only really get it at home where it's a case of spot the non-white person, or failing that, abuse the ugly ginger. :p
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  • audiodave
    audiodave Posts: 1,623
    OneLove wrote:
    Is there a rule that there must be a group segmented from society to be picked on?
    Not that i'm aware of....why are you asking me that? I don't write the rules...
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  • baraka
    baraka Posts: 1,268
    I don't know what it is, but I totally dig redhead dudes, esp if they are smart and witty. I have a total redhead thing! My first 'somewhat' boyfriend had/has fire engine red hair.
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  • facepollution
    facepollution Posts: 6,834
    audiodave wrote:
    LOL no. I'm not from here, i'm from Lincoln. I go to uni here, and have never had a problem here about being ginger. Only really get it at home where it's a case of spot the non-white person, or failing that, abuse the ugly ginger. :p

    Haha!

    I can imagine it can't be nice. It's weird really cause I did used to get picked on a bit when I was a teenager. I had long hair and dressed grungey so used to get called 'gay' and stuff like that, cause rock music was not really as widely accepted ten years ago as it is now. But I never really cared that much to be honest.
  • OneLove
    OneLove Posts: 563
    audiodave wrote:
    Not that i'm aware of....why are you asking me that? I don't write the rules...


    :) Just curious. Your comment that your area is 500% white and there is no one else to pick on struck me as funny.
  • audiodave
    audiodave Posts: 1,623
    Haha!

    I can imagine it can't be nice. It's weird really cause I did used to get picked on a bit when I was a teenager. I had long hair and dressed grungey so used to get called 'gay' and stuff like that, cause rock music was not really as widely accepted ten years ago as it is now. But I never really cared that much to be honest.
    Cause everyone knows the grunge scene was so gay. :p

    Guess it affects everyone differently. It doesn't really bother me now, as it doesn't happen very often, but when it did it really used to get to me. I was a very different person back then aswell, and I think that if I got a lot of abuse for it now, I wouldn't be as bothered.
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  • audiodave
    audiodave Posts: 1,623
    OneLove wrote:
    :) Just curious. Your comment that your area is 500% white and there is no one else to pick on struck me as funny.
    Well it was half meant as a joke. And of course I was exaggerating. According to Wikipedia, we're 97.8% white...so it wasn't that much of a stretch.
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  • facepollution
    facepollution Posts: 6,834
    audiodave wrote:
    Cause everyone knows the grunge scene was so gay. :p

    Guess it affects everyone differently. It doesn't really bother me now, as it doesn't happen very often, but when it did it really used to get to me. I was a very different person back then aswell, and I think that if I got a lot of abuse for it now, I wouldn't be as bothered.

    Yeah I guess any form of bullying can hurt.
  • elmer
    elmer Posts: 1,683
    audiodave wrote:
    I disagree. Attractiveness doesn't come into it, at least over here in the UK. Everyone does it because it's socially accepted, and they all think it's harmless fun. But what if it happened every day? Not just from people who you didn't like, or didn't know, but from people who are supposed to be your friends, who KNOW it bothers you but continue to taunt you about it anyway. And to be in the classroom and have the teachers do it. I used to have a maths teacher who would say "shut up ginger" every time I used to say anything. Everyone else thought it was hillarious, of course. And then to go home and have your family do it. And to walk down the street and have some person you don't even know shout at you, and people in passing cars. This STILL happens to me.
    Well I'm sorry to read this, unfortunatly the "obvious solution" is to muller them up. Course, this isn't always a viable or sensible(it mostly is) option but it's what they deserve. What jamieuk alluded to is the truth, it''s the same type of people, Remain unfettered and ity escalates, choose your mates carefully.

    As for the explainers givin out here, they need to fuck off back to their sewing circle what with their smuggy croaking shite

    "Your fucking damaged goods!"is a nice and true response, especially to some rancidold mousse.

    Sober now.......um,I don't feel all that strongly about it actually.
  • jamie uk
    jamie uk Posts: 3,812
    audiodave wrote:
    Didn't realise you were "one of us" Jamie. :p

    I agree with you, and I wanted to post something along those lines but I didn't bother, as I knew no one would take it seriously.

    It's just about the only form of social prejudice you're allowed thesedays, and I don't think people outside the UK realise just how much abuse you can get for it. Next time someone does it to me (doesn't really happen anymore as my hair isn't as red as it used to be...not greying, it's just got darker :p) I should follow them down the street shouting "Hey look everyone, this guy's an immature prejudiced TW*T! Hahaha, look, he's a tw*t!" That's pretty much equivalent to what we get over here.

    Well, I'm not actually Dave, just spiritually I suppose. Like I've said to you in the past, people find anyone that is slightly different somewhat scarey and the easiest thing for most of the knuckle heads around is to be prejudice. They don't even realise.
    People here saying it's not the same thing as racial prejudice, well obviously it's not on the scale because there isn't the history, but to an individual of course it's the same. Especially to a child, and some people struggle to get over that.
    Like I said, I'm not red haired, but in the Welsh valleys Comprehensives of the 1980's, there were no black people, perish the thought of what might have happened if there had been. Kids took stick for anything, I have kind of 'olive' skin so I was ridiculed for that, I also have curly hair which apparently is a crime!
    Dave is right, immature prejudice is what it is.
    All you lot trying to trivialise the name calling should own up to yourselves, you should realise that whatever you may think or believe, it is actually wrong, and extremely unpleasant especially as I say for kids. And until 'grown ups' realise that, then it will simply continue. I'm all for a laugh, but let's have a bit of respect for each other eh?
    I came, I saw, I concurred.....
  • Sian-of-the-dead
    Sian-of-the-dead Posts: 8,963
    Great post, J and never a truer word said. A bit o' respect goes far in this world :)
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  • vital5
    vital5 Posts: 5,486
    audiodave wrote:
    ....Next time someone does it to me (doesn't really happen anymore as my hair isn't as red as it used to be...not greying, it's just got darker :p).
    Your body's natural defences kicked in due to your abuse and made your hair darker.... kinda like a chamelion's natural defences when in danger.
  • vital5
    vital5 Posts: 5,486
    Interesting article: Is gingerism as bad as racism?


    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/6725653.stm
    The fact they called it Gingerism should enrage all the fire crotches! :) haha
  • TrixieCat
    TrixieCat Posts: 5,756
    vital5 wrote:
    i think you've confused us with the USA lol....

    AUS... not USA :)
    Newsflash for you, we don't judge people on their haircolor over here.
    This is a totally new thing for me to hear about and quite frankly it is pretty pathetic.
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