Get out to some games It's For REAL! Worse since they're the defending World Champions and this is so good being a fan since 1972.
Fort Meyers here I come.
Peace
Just a product of the minds of the Sux fans and the media.....wow...they won the same number of World Series since 1972 that the Toronto Blue Jays have won.....and the Florida Marlins.
All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
Just a product of the minds of the Sux fans and the media.....wow...they won the same number of World Series since 1972 that the Toronto Blue Jays have won.....and the Florida Marlins.
Exactly and I'm very proud of it and thank you so much for reminding the Die Hards.
Peace
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*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
The 4th largest crowd in the Florida Marlins history of 8,000 plus that were made up of a sea of Red Sox fans including myself. It was beautiful, took the afternoon off and I went up to Roger Dean Stadium without a ticket and got in after bargaing down a scalper.
I told I have my Patriots shirt, Red Sox hat with my Bruins pin and well my green underwear for the C's and St. Patrick's Day. I got a nice seat 3rd base side 7 rows back, surrounded by Red Sox fans.
So Hank give it a rest the Die Hards are here to stay so get used to ya Baffoon.
Peace
The Die Hards will NEVER go away. Well I'm off to the beach, the Atlantic Ocean awaits.
Peace
*We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
As for the attendance debate, statistics can be bent either way. The MFY get to go to Shea for at least one series of a sellout every year. Where as the sox got Atlanta last year. So lies damn lies and statistics aside you cannot deny that the sox and yanks are equal draws on the road.
Oh, and people often forget that Boston is a college town. Many people spend thne best years of their life here and then go back to where they came from. Many of these people end up being sox fans. It goes a long way to explaining the nation.
Oh, and please dont agrue road attendance as a positive for the Yanks and then say all Boston fans are bandwagon jumpers. You too have your fair share of people who have never been to NYC and root for the Yanks.
Winning teams get more fans. What Hank doesnt like is that the Sox are winning and that has made them popular. He wants it to be Yankee country? Win the series again. Pretty simple.
2007 Red Sox: $143 million
2004 Red Sox: $127 million
2000 Yankees: $92 million
1999 Yankees: $88 million
1998 Yankees: $63 million
1996 Yankees: $52 million
wow...they won the same number of World Series since 1972 that the Toronto Blue Jays have won.....and the Florida Marlins.
...the same number as the St. Louis Cardinals...the Minnesota Twins...and two less than the Oakland A's.
All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
he seems even more ignorant than his father, which i thought was a pretty tough act to follow.
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Nah, no one wants to talk about the Yankees have spent almost a half billion dollars more than the Red Sox and have been left with no World Series wins this century.
You mean the guy who bought the team for $12 million, and turned it into a $1 billion plus industry?
yep, that guy.......doesn't take away from the fact that he's made some outlandish and inappropriate/stupid comments over the years.
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Red Sox ownership has granted new Yankees boss Hank Steinbrenner membership into Red Sox Nation, Sox principal owner John Henry confirmed in an e-mail to the Boston Herald.
I'm a big Hank fan," Henry wrote to the Herald. "Just to ensure he knows how cool Red Sox Nation is, [Saturday] we officially inducted him as a member of Red Sox Nation and we are sending him his membership card giving him access to an array of options including our newsletter, bumper stickers, pins, Green Monster seats and a hat personally autographed by David Ortiz."
Steinbrenner drew the ire of Sox fans everywhere this week with a quote that appeared in Sunday's New York Times' Play magazine.
"Red Sox Nation? What a bunch of [expletive] that is," Steinbrenner told the magazine. "That was a creation of the Red Sox and ESPN, which is filled with Red Sox fans.Go anywhere in America and you won't see Red Sox hats and jackets, you'll see Yankee hats and jackets. This is a Yankee country. We're going to put the Yankees back on top and restore the universe to order."
Red Sox ownership has granted new Yankees boss Hank Steinbrenner membership into Red Sox Nation, Sox principal owner John Henry confirmed in an e-mail to the Boston Herald.
I'm a big Hank fan," Henry wrote to the Herald. "Just to ensure he knows how cool Red Sox Nation is, [Saturday] we officially inducted him as a member of Red Sox Nation and we are sending him his membership card giving him access to an array of options including our newsletter, bumper stickers, pins, Green Monster seats and a hat personally autographed by David Ortiz."
Steinbrenner drew the ire of Sox fans everywhere this week with a quote that appeared in Sunday's New York Times' Play magazine.
"Red Sox Nation? What a bunch of [expletive] that is," Steinbrenner told the magazine. "That was a creation of the Red Sox and ESPN, which is filled with Red Sox fans.Go anywhere in America and you won't see Red Sox hats and jackets, you'll see Yankee hats and jackets. This is a Yankee country. We're going to put the Yankees back on top and restore the universe to order."
Now see look how kind and generous we have become. He's so weird he might just take Henry up on the offer.
What do you'll think?
Peace
*We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
Well he must of completely forgotten the Boston Red Sox led MLB last year in road attendance. Where's your "Yankee country" now, go have another drink Hank you surley could use it?
Peace
were they leading MLB in road attendance 7-8 years ago?
were they leading MLB in road attendance 7-8 years ago?
YUP they sure did. However, Hank seems to be really rattled that the Sox fans seem to show up in droves at visiting parks.
Again the Red Sox fans are here to stay.
Peace
*We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
YUP they sure did. However, Hank seems to be really rattled that the Sox fans seem to show up in droves at visiting parks.
Again the Red Sox fans are here to stay.
Peace
Ehhh, any teams "fans" are largely contingent on the team winning, Yankees included. I went to a few games in the early 90's that had about 5,000 people there. If the Yankees stink in 10 years, or the Red Sox in 5, both teams will still draw the true fans, but I doubt either will sell out regularly.
Ehhh, any teams "fans" are largely contingent on the team winning, Yankees included. I went to a few games in the early 90's that had about 5,000 people there. If the Yankees stink in 10 years, or the Red Sox in 5, both teams will still draw the true fans, but I doubt either will sell out regularly.
5,000 at Yankee Stadium in the early 90's I find that hard to believe. With the new stadium coming even if they're at the bottom of the East the fans will pack that place.
......And if the Red Sox are in town it is a gauranteed sellout even if the Yanks are at the bottom of the East.
Hell I'll drive up and be at that game.
Peace
*We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
5,000 at Yankee Stadium in the early 90's I find that hard to believe. With the new stadium coming even if they're at the bottom of the East the fans will pack that place.
......And if the Red Sox are in town it is a gauranteed sellout even if the Yanks are at the bottom of the East.
Hell I'll drive up and be at that game.
Peace
In 1991 they had about 1,700,000 for the season, averaging about 21,000 per game.
In 1991 they had about 1,700,000 for the season, averaging about 21,000 per game.
In the early 90's I can't remember much in that I was a free spirit traveling the world.
American Sports was the last thing on my mind then, mostly British soccer and cricket.
Peace
*We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
wow...they won the same number of World Series since 1972 that the Toronto Blue Jays have won.....and the Florida Marlins.
...the same number as the St. Louis Cardinals...the Minnesota Twins...and two less than the Oakland A's.
The same number since 1918, not 1972.
As for the "road attendance" debate. Swap seating capacity from Fenway to Yankee Stadium and the Yanks would have the edge in road attendance. 180k more throughout the season by adding 20k seats to Fenway + 180k less for the Sux by deducting 20k from Yankee Statium and the Yankee's would have a better overall road average. Like someone said earlier, it's simple statistics.
Abraham Lincoln once said, "If you are a racist, I will attack you with the North."
As for the "road attendance" debate. Swap seating capacity from Fenway to Yankee Stadium and the Yanks would have the edge in road attendance. 180k more throughout the season by adding 20k seats to Fenway + 180k less for the Sux by deducting 20k from Yankee Statium and the Yankee's would have a better overall road average. Like someone said earlier, it's simple statistics.
However this is not the case, in actuality the Yankees have a larger stadium and RS have a smaller one. I don't see how this contributes to the attendance when the Red Sox play the Tampa Bay Devil Rays here in Florida.
They're Red Sox/Yankee fans all over this country and they both follow their teams on the road. The Red Sox last year just happen to have more fans visiting games on the road. That's all.
2009 the Yankees might regain this road attendance lead with their new stadium. We shall see.
Peace
*We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
However this is not the case, in actuality the Yankees have a larger stadium and RS have a smaller one. I don't see how this contributes to the attendance when the Red Sox play the Tampa Bay Devil Rays here in Florida.
They're Red Sox/Yankee fans all over this country and they both follow their teams on the road. The Red Sox last year just happen to have more fans visiting games on the road. That's all.
2009 the Yankees might regain this road attendance lead with their new stadium. We shall see.
Peace
Assuming every game is a sellout in Boston and in New York, which they are when they play each other, the Sux get 20k more fans for 9 games at Yankee Stadium. The Yankees get 20k less for 9 games in Boston. A difference of 360,000 fans. Give or take. It has nothing to do with the other teams.
Abraham Lincoln once said, "If you are a racist, I will attack you with the North."
Assuming every game is a sellout in Boston and in New York, which they are when they play each other, the Sux get 20k more fans for 9 games at Yankee Stadium. The Yankees get 20k less for 9 games in Boston. A difference of 360,000 fans. Give or take. It has nothing to do with the other teams.
Are you telling the Red Sox fans can get 20k into Yankee Stadium each time they play each other? I really don't think so. Even IF that's ALL' 20k aren't traveling around the country filling up visiting parks. This road attendance demographic cannot be based totally on one park being larger than the other.
I would put more stock into the Red Sox winning a World Series than one park being larger than the other. What it then shows is the determination of Sox fans to see the team wherever they're playing.
I only mentioned the Devil Rays because I don't believe many northeastern RS fans are going to travel down here to see the Sox play the D-Rays during the season.
In Spring Training like right now Red Sox fans are down here in the 1000's making it more difficult for me to get a ticket in Fort Meyers or wherever they're playing at the moment. However my determintion always gets me in, always.
Peace
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*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
FFS stop it with the god damn attendance argument. I can find 360,000 the other way. As has been pointed out by me before. Yanks get to go to Shea, the sox dont. The Sox had to go to craptastic Atlanta the Yanks didn't. If that doesnt close the gap, then fine.
The Yanks have more Bandwagon fans by a slim margin. Congratulations. They still choked in 2004, havent won a title since 2000, while their rivals have won 2.
I dont care about 26-7, what have you done for me lately? For the Yanks, they've turned into the braves.
YUP they sure did. However, Hank seems to be really rattled that the Sox fans seem to show up in droves at visiting parks.
Again the Red Sox fans are here to stay.
Peace
um, no they didn't.
the nation (which is a ripoff of Raider Nation) only became "national" once the team got really good. Same thing pretty much happened with the Yankees in the late 90's...although the Yankees always had fans all over based on their history (huge stars like Mantle and Dimaggio) and the fact that so many people originally came from this part of the country.
Are you telling the Red Sox fans can get 20k into Yankee Stadium each time they play each other? I really don't think so. Even IF that's ALL' 20k aren't traveling around the country filling up visiting parks. This road attendance demographic cannot be based totally on one park being larger than the other.
IPeace
You're missing the point completely. The point is that when the yankees travel to Fenway, their road attendance averages 37,000 or whatever Fenway holds. When The Sox travel to Yankee Stadium, their road attendance is 57,000. So when you compare their full season road attendance, the Yankees start th season 200,000 in the hole
You're missing the point completely. The point is that when the yankees travel to Fenway, their road attendance averages 37,000 or whatever Fenway holds. When The Sox travel to Yankee Stadium, their road attendance is 57,000. So when you compare their full season road attendance, the Yankees start th season 200,000 in the hole
Wow. you're so much more popular. They both have bandwagon fans.
Also dont kid yourself. The sox could sell out a stadium with another 20,000 seats. I see lots of empty seats at Yankee stadium for non sox games.
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Exactly and I'm very proud of it and thank you so much for reminding the Die Hards.
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
The Die Hards will NEVER go away. Well I'm off to the beach, the Atlantic Ocean awaits.
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
Oh, and people often forget that Boston is a college town. Many people spend thne best years of their life here and then go back to where they came from. Many of these people end up being sox fans. It goes a long way to explaining the nation.
Oh, and please dont agrue road attendance as a positive for the Yanks and then say all Boston fans are bandwagon jumpers. You too have your fair share of people who have never been to NYC and root for the Yanks.
Winning teams get more fans. What Hank doesnt like is that the Sox are winning and that has made them popular. He wants it to be Yankee country? Win the series again. Pretty simple.
Since the last Yankees World Series win, they have spent this on Payroll:
* 2007: $189,639,045
* 2006: $194,663,079
* 2005: $208,306,817
* 2004: $184,193,950
* 2003: $152,749,814
* 2002: $125,928,583
* 2001: $112,287,143
This year's payroll was about 210 million before they signed Cano to a long term deal.
That comes to $1,377,768,431
Here are the Red Sox numbers for the same years. All info is from: http://mlbcontracts.blogspot.com/
* 2007: $143,026,214
* 2006: $120,099,824
* 2005: $123,505,125
* 2004: $127,298,500
* 2003: $ 99,946,500
* 2002: $108,366,060
* 2001: $110,035,883
The Red Sox payroll this year is about $136 million and they still might dump Taveras and Crisp before the season starts.
That total is $968,278,106 over the same time period.
So yes, both teams spend a ton of money, but the Yanks have outspent the Red Sox by 30% over the same time period.
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- 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
- 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
- 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
- 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
- 8/2/07, 8/5/07
- 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
- 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
- 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
- 9/11/11, 9/12/11
- 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
Hank Sucks and the Yanks Suck.
Bump.
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Nah, no one wants to talk about the Yankees have spent almost a half billion dollars more than the Red Sox and have been left with no World Series wins this century.
- 8/28/98
- 9/2/00
- 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
- 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
- 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
- 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
- 8/2/07, 8/5/07
- 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
- 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
- 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
- 9/11/11, 9/12/11
- 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
You mean the guy who bought the team for $12 million, and turned it into a $1 billion plus industry?
yep, that guy.......doesn't take away from the fact that he's made some outlandish and inappropriate/stupid comments over the years.
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http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/2008/03/report_sox_make.html
Red Sox ownership has granted new Yankees boss Hank Steinbrenner membership into Red Sox Nation, Sox principal owner John Henry confirmed in an e-mail to the Boston Herald.
I'm a big Hank fan," Henry wrote to the Herald. "Just to ensure he knows how cool Red Sox Nation is, [Saturday] we officially inducted him as a member of Red Sox Nation and we are sending him his membership card giving him access to an array of options including our newsletter, bumper stickers, pins, Green Monster seats and a hat personally autographed by David Ortiz."
Steinbrenner drew the ire of Sox fans everywhere this week with a quote that appeared in Sunday's New York Times' Play magazine.
"Red Sox Nation? What a bunch of [expletive] that is," Steinbrenner told the magazine. "That was a creation of the Red Sox and ESPN, which is filled with Red Sox fans.Go anywhere in America and you won't see Red Sox hats and jackets, you'll see Yankee hats and jackets. This is a Yankee country. We're going to put the Yankees back on top and restore the universe to order."
- 8/28/98
- 9/2/00
- 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
- 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
- 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
- 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
- 8/2/07, 8/5/07
- 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
- 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
- 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
- 9/11/11, 9/12/11
- 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
Now see look how kind and generous we have become. He's so weird he might just take Henry up on the offer.
What do you'll think?
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
YUP they sure did. However, Hank seems to be really rattled that the Sox fans seem to show up in droves at visiting parks.
Again the Red Sox fans are here to stay.
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
Ehhh, any teams "fans" are largely contingent on the team winning, Yankees included. I went to a few games in the early 90's that had about 5,000 people there. If the Yankees stink in 10 years, or the Red Sox in 5, both teams will still draw the true fans, but I doubt either will sell out regularly.
5,000 at Yankee Stadium in the early 90's I find that hard to believe. With the new stadium coming even if they're at the bottom of the East the fans will pack that place.
......And if the Red Sox are in town it is a gauranteed sellout even if the Yanks are at the bottom of the East.
Hell I'll drive up and be at that game.
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
Espn only goes as far back as 2001:
2001 Red Sox 4th behind Giants, Cubs, Yankees
2002 Red Sox 5th behind Yankees, D Backs, Giants, Cubs
2003 Red Sox 4th behind Yankees, Cubs, Giants
2004 Red Sox 4th behind Yankees, Cubs, Giants
2005 Red Sox 1st
2006 Red Sox 2nd behind Yankees
2007 Red Sox 1st
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- 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
- 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
- 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
- 8/2/07, 8/5/07
- 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
- 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
- 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
- 9/11/11, 9/12/11
- 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
In 1991 they had about 1,700,000 for the season, averaging about 21,000 per game.
In the early 90's I can't remember much in that I was a free spirit traveling the world.
American Sports was the last thing on my mind then, mostly British soccer and cricket.
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The same number since 1918, not 1972.
As for the "road attendance" debate. Swap seating capacity from Fenway to Yankee Stadium and the Yanks would have the edge in road attendance. 180k more throughout the season by adding 20k seats to Fenway + 180k less for the Sux by deducting 20k from Yankee Statium and the Yankee's would have a better overall road average. Like someone said earlier, it's simple statistics.
However this is not the case, in actuality the Yankees have a larger stadium and RS have a smaller one. I don't see how this contributes to the attendance when the Red Sox play the Tampa Bay Devil Rays here in Florida.
They're Red Sox/Yankee fans all over this country and they both follow their teams on the road. The Red Sox last year just happen to have more fans visiting games on the road. That's all.
2009 the Yankees might regain this road attendance lead with their new stadium. We shall see.
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.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
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Assuming every game is a sellout in Boston and in New York, which they are when they play each other, the Sux get 20k more fans for 9 games at Yankee Stadium. The Yankees get 20k less for 9 games in Boston. A difference of 360,000 fans. Give or take. It has nothing to do with the other teams.
Are you telling the Red Sox fans can get 20k into Yankee Stadium each time they play each other? I really don't think so. Even IF that's ALL' 20k aren't traveling around the country filling up visiting parks. This road attendance demographic cannot be based totally on one park being larger than the other.
I would put more stock into the Red Sox winning a World Series than one park being larger than the other. What it then shows is the determination of Sox fans to see the team wherever they're playing.
I only mentioned the Devil Rays because I don't believe many northeastern RS fans are going to travel down here to see the Sox play the D-Rays during the season.
In Spring Training like right now Red Sox fans are down here in the 1000's making it more difficult for me to get a ticket in Fort Meyers or wherever they're playing at the moment. However my determintion always gets me in, always.
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The Yanks have more Bandwagon fans by a slim margin. Congratulations. They still choked in 2004, havent won a title since 2000, while their rivals have won 2.
I dont care about 26-7, what have you done for me lately? For the Yanks, they've turned into the braves.
the nation (which is a ripoff of Raider Nation) only became "national" once the team got really good. Same thing pretty much happened with the Yankees in the late 90's...although the Yankees always had fans all over based on their history (huge stars like Mantle and Dimaggio) and the fact that so many people originally came from this part of the country.
You're missing the point completely. The point is that when the yankees travel to Fenway, their road attendance averages 37,000 or whatever Fenway holds. When The Sox travel to Yankee Stadium, their road attendance is 57,000. So when you compare their full season road attendance, the Yankees start th season 200,000 in the hole
Also dont kid yourself. The sox could sell out a stadium with another 20,000 seats. I see lots of empty seats at Yankee stadium for non sox games.
Huh? Who said anything about being more popular?