Hank Stienbrenner is a complete FOOL.
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"Red Sox Nation?" What a bunch of [expletive] that is," he said in an interview with The New York Times' Play magazine. "That was a creation of the Red Sox and ESPN, which is filled with Red Sox fans.
"Go anywhere in America and you won't see Red Sox hats and jackets, you'll see Yankee hats and jackets. This is a Yankee country. We're going to put the Yankees back on top and restore the universe to order."
What a COMPLETE BAFFOON Hank Stienbrenner is as in another outspoken moment, denounces Red Sox Nation.
Well he must of completely forgotten the Boston Red Sox led MLB last year in road attendance. Where's your "Yankee country" now, go have another drink Hank you surley could use it?
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He's right too, Red Sux nation was created by New England loving ESPN annalists and the media. There was no such thing as Red Sux nation until 2004 and in a few years it will be nothing but a pimple on the face of the Yankees.
Take your two rings and cherish them. It took the Sux 86 years to have fans. Same thing for the Pats. It's a bandwagon country, and the Pats and Sux are in the front conducting.
Buckner, Boone, the Babe, and 18-1. Deal with it.
uhh I'm from canada and the Yankees are example one of why baseball needs a salaray cap, shit they're even the evil empire
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.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
he didnt even know what day pitchers and catcher reported.
the yankees arent even making the playoffs this year.
they have no chance in hell with little to no pitching.
grow up and stop being jealous of the best team in baseball, best fans in baseball.
torre was too god for a shit team.
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that above is 100% true. the yankees bought championships.the red sox won them
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Actually Red Sox Nation started in 1986, was written about in the 90's extensively in Boston (check globe articles and the 2 Shaughnessy books), but, and Steinbrenner is right the new corporate RSN came about when the new management teamed up with the Sawx loving media members of ESPN (see: Peter Gammons, Bill Simmons, Bob Ryan, Michael Smith, Michael Holley, Jackie Smith, Skip Bayless, and Eric Kusilias) to make this thing called Red Sox Nation. Unfortunately I think they here to stay.
You want official, there's your fricking official statistics at MLB....Attendence Report For 2007 and I hope you can handle the truth!
What an idiot...Bring back George I liked him better. He showed more passion for the game not talking out his ass like his buffoon son Hank.
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I can't wait for Hank to fire Brian Cashman. After that he will deplete the farm system that Cashman has built up chasing after over-rated shitbags that can only hit.
The reason why the Yankees won those series back in the 90's was because they had George locked away in a closet and they gave the young kids a chance to play. If George was around those banners from those four seasons would have never happened because he would have traded Williams, Jeter, ans Pettite.
Here's the stats that really count: 2 World Series wins in the last 4 years for the Sox and 0 in the last 7 for the Yanks.
Who are these Buckner, Boone, and Babe you speak of? I have a good memeory of A-Rod shrugging at second base after her bitch slap of Bronson Arroyo's glove with her big Hamburger Helper mitts.
I will worry about the Yankees when they actually get some real pitching.
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What???? The Red Sox won them...with a $20 million LF, $30 million for two starters (04), a $17 million starter (07), an $8 million closer (04), a $10 million catcher, etc. Of all World Series champions, they have the honor of doing it with the two highest payrolls. Boston won those rings EXACTLY how the Yankees did in the late 90s. All within the rules mind you, just don't start thinking they're the Minnesota Twins.
And as a Yankee fan, Hank worries me. Overall I was a George fan, but wish he had stayed out of the baseball ops side. He also could have held back on some of the comments about Torre, Cashman, Jeter, etc. Hank has a lot of those traits, but doesn't seem quite as bright as George...hope Hal and co. can get him in line at some point.
Edit: Don't forget the $12 million DH!
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2007 Red Sox: $143 million
2004 Red Sox: $127 million
2000 Yankees: $92 million
1999 Yankees: $88 million
1998 Yankees: $63 million
1996 Yankees: $52 million
Source: http://content.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/salaries/default.aspx
Is this a shock, they guy is a New Yorker, which means he's apparently entitled to be an arrogant SOB. That being said, screw the AL, and the AL East. Yeah there are a lot of people in the Northeast, but the majority of people outside that region could give a flying bleep about the Red Sox and especially the Yankees. GO CUBS!!
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I'm not a Yankee fan, but I am a New Yorker, so go to hell. You're just jealous that you live in the sticks.
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that ends his debate lol
hehe the sticks
And someone else said that Steinbrenner only cares about money.. so he spends the most money in baseball every year..? It's clear he only cares about money.. since he loves to spend it...
And we come to the pitching comments.. The Yanks have 3 or 4 of the best young pitchers in the game. Purposely, for the last 2 years, they held these guys back while the old vets whittled away. Now, for once, we don't trade the new talent to get the old in Santana, and we hang on to Kennedy, Hughes, and Chamberlain. If our rotation doesn't completely dominate this year, it will next year.
They pulled in 1.5 million more fans because Yankee Stadium has around 20,000 more seats than Fenway Park.
However, just like Boston, both teams are practically fielding all-star teams at this poin They SHOULD have great attendance numbers....Unlike my hometown Dodgers...3.8 Million of us still show up when we're fielding rookies and overpaid pitchers.
Dodger Fans= FANS. I don't care what anyone says about L.A.....we're 1 good season away from setting all kinds of attendance records. Just look at the numbers.
Oh, and just for the record, if the Yankees are the "Evil Empire"...then what is Boston these days with their ridiculous payroll and skyrocketing bids for foreign players?
The entire rest of the stadium is full of thugs that want to start trouble.
And I still pull for the Blue in the National League. But it's not easy going to a game with that atmosphere.
I have many points about what has been brought up...
1. While I don't really care about either side of the argument about whether either team bought their championships. this chart is SO misleading. In 1996, a $52 million dollar payroll was ridiculous, much like a $143 million payroll last year. This chart reminds me of the old folks who say how much cheaper everything was when they were younger.
2, I think the young Steinbrenners are asses. They have all the attitude of their dad, with none of the personality. And he is way off base with his comments. The Red Sox are WAY more popular. They draw well on the road because their fans travel with them, kind of similar to the way you see Terrible Towels wherever the Steelers play. When I went to the Orioles-Red Sox game in Baltimore last year, the Inner Harbor was packed with New Englanders in Dice K and Big Papi jerseys.
3. As far as a salary cap, yeah it would be nice. But baseball certainly doesn't need one. There has been an incredible amount of competitive balance over the last 10 years, which proves a salary cap isn't really necessary. Sure, if I had a vote, I'd probably vote for one, but among all his bumbling in the commissioner's office, Bud Selig has managed to help the game become more level.
4. All that being said, I love hearing Red Sox fans (and staff) call the Yankees the "Evil Empire." Even though the playing field is (fairly) level, both teams have it better than the rest of the league. I hate hearing The Red Sox turncoat @$$ of an owner John Henry complain about the Yankees.
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this is 100% true, and can be entirely accounted for by the difference in seating capacity between yankee stadium and fenway park (the former having about 20,000 more seats than the latter).
if the yankees and red sox play nine games each at the other team's stadium over the course of a year, it adds up to 180,000 more road "fans" that the red sox draw than the yankees. that's 2,222 fans per game over an 81-game road schedule, which exceeds the reported difference of 1,414 in favor of the red sox. this is further illustrated by the fact that yankees road games in 2007 were filled to 83.4% capacity as opposed to 81.5% for the red sox.
if both stadiums were of equal size, the yankees would lead the league in road attendance.
it's one of those examples that demonstrates how you can use statistics to prove anything.
see, kids... your third grade teacher was right. math really is fun! well... maybe not. but it can be useful for pointing things out that the media refuses to acknowledge.
The American League East might be the most hated division for this purpose but it all points to the Yankees. The started the "arms" race and any team in that division has to spend.
On a side note thought this was funny. Must have been quite a few Yankees fans at this event. lol.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/03/01/money.giveaway.ap/index.html
I'm going to argue this point. Your argument doesn't prove the Red Sox have an advantage by playing more road games in the Bronx. Those seats at Yankee Stadium would have been full anyway.
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1. I think the biggest point to be made about those years is that the Yankees payroll wasnt the highest in the league for much of that time. That team was mostly homegrown, with a few free agents sprinkled in , along with a couple brilliant trades (O'Neill for Roberto kelly or Tino & Jeff Nelson for Mike Blowers and Sterling Hitchcock)
2. I agree with you about Hank. george had the right to be somewhat obnoxious, as he bought the team for $12 millon, and turned it into a billion $ industry. Hank is just a member of the lucky sperm club. he should take a lesson from hal, and stay in the background. But I disagree about the Sox being more popular around the country. Everywher eyou look, some actor, rapper, basketball player, whatever is sporting a Yankee hat. Lebron james plays for Cleveland, grew up in the area, an dhe was rooting for NY
3. A salary cap may help the sport a little, but I think a salary floor is needed more. How many teams have $12-$30 million payrolls, and collect $70 million in bvaseball welfare? They're knocked out of contention on Opening Day, but the owners don't care. They made a $50 mil profit without selling 1 ticket.
4. John Henry is prrof that it pays to be friends with the corrupt interim commissioner for life, Bud Selig. 3 groups put in bids for the Sox, and Bud saw to it that his pal, who put in the lowest bid of all, got the team. While he still owned another team, and had a 1& interest on a 3rd team (The Yankees as you alluded to)