Wasn't it something about "comparable to a tractor exhaust pipe"?
my goodness...I think that definitely exceeds porn star qualifications.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'
believe it or not, we don't "need" anything. that is only the spoiled brat in us trying to fill some temporary solution to an emptyness that does not exist.
I have eaten so much gold I crapped excellence - drtyfrnk29
Life is either a daring adventure or nothing at all!
'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
I have no idea.....I've been married to mine for 25 years....and now think....it is luck. How did I know how hard he would work or what kind of father he would be or if I would be able to stay in love with him for a lifetime when I was so young? If you see red flags, you will never be able to change him, so you either don't commit or plan on accepting him for who he is 100%. So many of my friends and family have all divorced, even when you thought they were a great match....I really don't know why some make it and others don't. Maybe it is the the fact that most couples who do make it, totally accept the other person for who they are, are able to say they are sorry and forgive each other when needed and they have fun together.
Good luck
oxc
That was a conclusion I recently came to. Some of the men my friends married many thought would be HORRIBLE father's, and they turned out to be great. You never know, it's all a risk and luck - and also working on the relationship
I'm going to disagree with that just one more time. It's either your way of countering my point of view, or you're really just that unaware of what goes on in the world.
Do you really think that most emotionally balanced women actually leave marriages with men who turn out to be jackasses? You have got to be kidding. The exact opposite is more along the lines of the truth, and it is one of the sad commentaries of human history.
you are the one that said that it's women that are emotionally unbalanced that will leave a relationship with a jackass. and that women that are emotionally balanced stick with the marriage/relationship with a jackass.
By that rationale, you imply that women who are in emotionally and/or physically abusive relationships are simply the coarse, mean, disturbed women that you seem to understand so well. If I didn't know any better, I'd say that's not only closed-minded, but disturbingly sexist in a way. "Those women deserve it," is basically what you're saying.
where did I say any such thing? I'm not coarse, mean nor am I disturbed, nor are any of my friends or anyone that I associate with, so I'm not getting where you can say that i seem to understand them so well. I was simply saying that if you want to be a coarse, mean, asshole and treat women like shit then expect the same treatment in return if you want her to stick around.
no where did i even imply that women that are in emotionally and/or physically abusive relationships are only those that are course, mean and disturbed. way to twist my words into something I did not say or imply. no woman, no matter her emotionally stability or lack thereof deserves to be emotionally or physically abused. period.
The truth is that most women would rather endure a lifetime of that abuse than risk being single again. This is especially true if children are involved, or if the man was the principle bread-winner, and too many other reasons to mention. And that's not including the stigma that single women face as they themselves get older.
You've just spent post after post demonstrating your obliviousness to those certain realities of people and relationships. It's too unreal.
you couldn't be anymore off the mark if you were trying to be. I was in a four year relationship with my kids Dad where after 2 plus years he became emotionally and physically abusive. it took over a year to put together a plan to take my kids and leave him. that's why I said an emotionally balanced woman will leave an asshole at the earliest opportunity. for most women in an abusive realtionship it can't/doesn't happen immediately. she has to have the emotional where withall to have the strength to devise a plan to leave and to carry it out successfully.
for you to say that most women would rather endure a lifetime of abuse than risk being single again is just absurd. there are very few women that are like that. it is especially true that if there are children involved that she knows that those kids are all the more reason to get the hell away from her abuser; not stick around so that the kids can see if next time that Daddy hits Mommy will be the time that Daddy ends up murdering Mommy.
how much time have you spent volunteering in a domestic violence shelter? I don't know about you but when I did I never told a women she couldn't take care of herself and her kids because her husband was the principle bread-winner. that and she might be faced with a social stigma(what is this, the 1950's?) as she gets older if she becomes single again. what I did tell them was "hey, I didn't have much money. i had to cross an international border with two kids on a bus. I didn't know a soul in this entire State and all of my family and friends were 3000 miles away. but I found the strength to do it because i owed it to myself and my kids to leave and never go back. and that if I could do it than anyone could." and I did raise two sucessful kids by myself. if that makes me emotionally unbalanced than that makes you fucked in the head.
so i'm certainly not oblivious to the realities of people and relationships. and i'm sure not going to give any credit to your assertion that woman like assholes and like to be treated like shit because hey, it sure beats being single.
my point is: some women are stable when they get into a relationship, and then after being manipulated, controlled, and threatened they become fearful and afraid to leave their boyfriend. and i will also say they become used to being controlled by someone, if that control is taken away they are left with fear of unknown.
having been in the sitution in the past the fear of the unknown is much better than the constant fear of being manipulated, controlled, and threatened and abused. the thing is that a woman will find the emotional balance to to take enough control back in order that she can make a plan to leave and follow through with it. that in no way says that if a woman is emotionally unbalanced that she shouldn't make every effort to leave, though she may need more support in the way of friends, family, the police, the court system and social services. plus, no woman should be be made to feel that she is weak or incapable of having control for asking for help to leave and stay out of going back to an abusive relationship.
I didn't know someone with that criteria existed!!! soooooo.....what's your 10C number?????
Happy New Year to you!!!!!
believe it or not, we don't "need" anything. that is only the spoiled brat in us trying to fill some temporary solution to an emptyness that does not exist.
I have eaten so much gold I crapped excellence - drtyfrnk29
Life is either a daring adventure or nothing at all!
I didn't know someone with that criteria existed!!! soooooo.....what's your 10C number?????
Happy New Year to you!!!!!
They don't exist..... in the 10c!
(I'm not in the 10c.. never felt I wanted to spend the money and being from the UK, the benefits weren't enough - I already get disabled seats to shows.)
Happy New Year indeed
'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'
having been in the sitution in the past the fear of the unknown is much better than the constant fear of being manipulated, controlled, and threatened and abused. the thing is that a woman will find the emotional balance to to take enough control back in order that she can make a plan to leave and follow through with it. that in no way says that if a woman is emotionally unbalanced that she shouldn't make every effort to leave, though she may need more support in the way of friends, family, the police, the court system and social services. plus, no woman should be be made to feel that she is weak or incapable of having control for asking for help to leave and stay out of going back to an abusive relationship.
erm, yeah it all true.but before they get all this support emotionally balanced women who became imotionally unbalanced need some time to get strong and escape the relationship.
Also Prism and Sponger i think you fighting over nothing hopefully on this New Years Day you can kiss and make up hehe actually no it's all up to you two.
I tell you who is real asshole and that's my ex boyfriend!! can't believe i had to see his arrogant face on a New Years Eve
This can be true in that I work as a nurse with a couple that have been married for 67 years. The husband has always told me he pictured growing old with his wife whom he married back in 1940.
Even with an occasional tiff between them they're pretty happy together after ALL these years.
I've done that same picture with my partner and THAT scenerio sits very well with me. Nice analogy.
Peace
dammmnnnnn 1940???? :eek: thats a LONG time to be married. :eek:
~~~~~~ALWAYS HAVE A GOOD TIME~~~~~~
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erm, yeah it all true.but before they get all this support emotionally balanced women who became imotionally unbalanced need some time to get strong and escape the relationship.
Also Prism and Sponger i think you fighting over nothing hopefully on this New Years Day you can kiss and make up hehe actually no it's all up to you two.
I tell you who is real asshole and that's my ex boyfriend!! can't believe i had to see his arrogant face on a New Years Eve
maybe u should sing "SINCE YOUVE BEEN GONE" to him!!!!
~~~~~~ALWAYS HAVE A GOOD TIME~~~~~~
Sir Mike McCready is....THE MASTER!!! WAHHH!!!
EVENFLOW PSYCHOS H.N.I.C~FEEL THE FLOW!!!
"Pearl Jam fans are obsessed, they'd see the boys in HELL if tickets were sold."-CROJAM95
It takes balls to put out a UKE album!
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dammmnnnnn 1940???? :eek: thats a LONG time to be married. :eek:
That Is a long timmmme, but when your wealthy as these folks being married that long appears to make it easier.
Money matters in some of these marriages, I gather.
Peace
*We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
if he's a keeper he's already taken and kept by his wife/s.o.
single keepers don't exist beyond around the age of 30
:(
I disagree! I'm 36 and i found my keeper about 6 months ago. He's 35, and the greatest guy i've ever met. He's the one. I am sooooo lucky, and he feels the same way! Hope is not lost!
keep this secret for me please,what i'm about to say into your ear : I like Kelly's song "Never again" !
But if i were to sing any of these to him, he'd think i compeletly lost my marbles.....and i would not look cool at all! come to think of it, this last time i saw him i thought i was cool, but then i said something which i thought was alright, but he thought i was bitching, oh well at least i confused him. hehehe.
keep this secret for me please,what i'm about to say into your ear : I like Kelly's song "Never again" !
But if i were to sing any of these to him, he'd think i compeletly lost my marbles.....and i would not look cool at all! come to think of it, this last time i saw him i thought i was cool, but then i said something which i thought was alright, but he thought i was bitching, oh well at least i confused him. hehehe.
*whispers* k i wont tell ANNNNYONE.
me liking this song started out as a joke. Then one day.....i just started liking it ALLLLOT!!! i dont appreciate her trashing the guys house or anything but...i just like the tune of the song i guess! and come on, you've gotta be at least a LITTLE bit cool.....
~~~~~~ALWAYS HAVE A GOOD TIME~~~~~~
Sir Mike McCready is....THE MASTER!!! WAHHH!!!
EVENFLOW PSYCHOS H.N.I.C~FEEL THE FLOW!!!
"Pearl Jam fans are obsessed, they'd see the boys in HELL if tickets were sold."-CROJAM95
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my goodness...I think that definitely exceeds porn star qualifications.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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( o.O)
(")_(")
That's great.. I can keep me.
- the great Sir Leo Harrison
:eek:
I have eaten so much gold I crapped excellence - drtyfrnk29
Life is either a daring adventure or nothing at all!
I wanna wind out
I wanna leave
This mind and shout
I've lived
All this life
Like an ocean
In disguise
I don't live for
Ever
You can't keep
Me here
I wanna race
With the sundown
I want a last breath
I don't let out
Forgive
Every being
The bad feelings
It's just me
I won't wait
For answers
You can't keep
Me here
I wanna rise
And say goodnight
Wanna take
A look on the other side
I've lived
All those lives
It's been wonder
Full at night
I will live for
Ever
You can't keep
Me here
-Shakespeare
Why the shock?
- the great Sir Leo Harrison
http://www.randonneurs.bc.ca/odds_and_ends/bike-shorts-should-be-black.html
edit: yeah I gotta get me one of these suits.... http://www.inrubber.com/zen2/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=11
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
That was a conclusion I recently came to. Some of the men my friends married many thought would be HORRIBLE father's, and they turned out to be great. You never know, it's all a risk and luck - and also working on the relationship
you are the one that said that it's women that are emotionally unbalanced that will leave a relationship with a jackass. and that women that are emotionally balanced stick with the marriage/relationship with a jackass.
where did I say any such thing? I'm not coarse, mean nor am I disturbed, nor are any of my friends or anyone that I associate with, so I'm not getting where you can say that i seem to understand them so well. I was simply saying that if you want to be a coarse, mean, asshole and treat women like shit then expect the same treatment in return if you want her to stick around.
no where did i even imply that women that are in emotionally and/or physically abusive relationships are only those that are course, mean and disturbed. way to twist my words into something I did not say or imply. no woman, no matter her emotionally stability or lack thereof deserves to be emotionally or physically abused. period.
you couldn't be anymore off the mark if you were trying to be. I was in a four year relationship with my kids Dad where after 2 plus years he became emotionally and physically abusive. it took over a year to put together a plan to take my kids and leave him. that's why I said an emotionally balanced woman will leave an asshole at the earliest opportunity. for most women in an abusive realtionship it can't/doesn't happen immediately. she has to have the emotional where withall to have the strength to devise a plan to leave and to carry it out successfully.
for you to say that most women would rather endure a lifetime of abuse than risk being single again is just absurd. there are very few women that are like that. it is especially true that if there are children involved that she knows that those kids are all the more reason to get the hell away from her abuser; not stick around so that the kids can see if next time that Daddy hits Mommy will be the time that Daddy ends up murdering Mommy.
how much time have you spent volunteering in a domestic violence shelter? I don't know about you but when I did I never told a women she couldn't take care of herself and her kids because her husband was the principle bread-winner. that and she might be faced with a social stigma(what is this, the 1950's?) as she gets older if she becomes single again. what I did tell them was "hey, I didn't have much money. i had to cross an international border with two kids on a bus. I didn't know a soul in this entire State and all of my family and friends were 3000 miles away. but I found the strength to do it because i owed it to myself and my kids to leave and never go back. and that if I could do it than anyone could." and I did raise two sucessful kids by myself. if that makes me emotionally unbalanced than that makes you fucked in the head.
so i'm certainly not oblivious to the realities of people and relationships. and i'm sure not going to give any credit to your assertion that woman like assholes and like to be treated like shit because hey, it sure beats being single.
having been in the sitution in the past the fear of the unknown is much better than the constant fear of being manipulated, controlled, and threatened and abused. the thing is that a woman will find the emotional balance to to take enough control back in order that she can make a plan to leave and follow through with it. that in no way says that if a woman is emotionally unbalanced that she shouldn't make every effort to leave, though she may need more support in the way of friends, family, the police, the court system and social services. plus, no woman should be be made to feel that she is weak or incapable of having control for asking for help to leave and stay out of going back to an abusive relationship.
angels share laughter
*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
I didn't know someone with that criteria existed!!!
Happy New Year to you!!!!!
I have eaten so much gold I crapped excellence - drtyfrnk29
Life is either a daring adventure or nothing at all!
They don't exist..... in the 10c!
(I'm not in the 10c.. never felt I wanted to spend the money and being from the UK, the benefits weren't enough - I already get disabled seats to shows.)
Happy New Year indeed
- the great Sir Leo Harrison
erm, yeah it all true.but before they get all this support emotionally balanced women who became imotionally unbalanced need some time to get strong and escape the relationship.
Also Prism and Sponger i think you fighting over nothing
I tell you who is real asshole and that's my ex boyfriend!! can't believe i had to see his arrogant face on a New Years Eve
Sir Mike McCready is....THE MASTER!!! WAHHH!!!
EVENFLOW PSYCHOS H.N.I.C~FEEL THE FLOW!!!
"Pearl Jam fans are obsessed, they'd see the boys in HELL if tickets were sold."-CROJAM95
It takes balls to put out a UKE album!
Sir Mike McCready is....THE MASTER!!! WAHHH!!!
EVENFLOW PSYCHOS H.N.I.C~FEEL THE FLOW!!!
"Pearl Jam fans are obsessed, they'd see the boys in HELL if tickets were sold."-CROJAM95
It takes balls to put out a UKE album!
That Is a long timmmme, but when your wealthy as these folks being married that long appears to make it easier.
Money matters in some of these marriages, I gather.
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
by which artist?
Interesting.
I read all of those and for the most part they are true. I mean it goes both ways. A person is a keeper if you geniunly respect and enjoy each other.
that said keep in mind people are human and no one is perfect.
Charlotte 03
Asheville 04
Atlanta 12
Greenville 16, Columbia 16
Seattle 18
Nashville 22
I disagree! I'm 36 and i found my keeper about 6 months ago. He's 35, and the greatest guy i've ever met. He's the one. I am sooooo lucky, and he feels the same way! Hope is not lost!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=cdxRS_GyBbM
this song rules just for fun!!!!
Sir Mike McCready is....THE MASTER!!! WAHHH!!!
EVENFLOW PSYCHOS H.N.I.C~FEEL THE FLOW!!!
"Pearl Jam fans are obsessed, they'd see the boys in HELL if tickets were sold."-CROJAM95
It takes balls to put out a UKE album!
keep this secret for me please,what i'm about to say into your ear
But if i were to sing any of these to him, he'd think i compeletly lost my marbles.....and i would not look cool at all! come to think of it, this last time i saw him i thought i was cool, but then i said something which i thought was alright, but he thought i was bitching, oh well at least i confused him. hehehe.
me liking this song started out as a joke. Then one day.....i just started liking it ALLLLOT!!! i dont appreciate her trashing the guys house or anything but...i just like the tune of the song i guess!
Sir Mike McCready is....THE MASTER!!! WAHHH!!!
EVENFLOW PSYCHOS H.N.I.C~FEEL THE FLOW!!!
"Pearl Jam fans are obsessed, they'd see the boys in HELL if tickets were sold."-CROJAM95
It takes balls to put out a UKE album!