No fighting guys.....it's ok to hate each others movies....but no hating each other ok ?
same goes for you Jez
I'm not fighting, I'm just curious as to why Samick is totally overlooking the actual content of my post.
"I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
I know that. I can read. What I'm asking is "Why do you think that every person who likes Fight Club is the same. Why do you think we all think it's deep?"
Yeah I probably should have used some people............that is a mistake on my part..........not my first and won't be my lost
OK, this thread just undelines my hate for this movie. I've no ned to quote anymore of it, just to say I've never read so much wanky clap trap in all my days!
To me if a movie needs this much fancy bollocks to justify it's existence, then it doesn't deserve an existence.
It's a poor movie with a couple of cool actors with their shirts off for the girls, and some violence for the men.....see there's the formula...oh wait, there's a deep hidden meaning to result!! what a hit!!...yeah right
And Jez.....don't keep bringing up the book man.....it's a movie thread
And Jez.....don't keep bringing up the book man.....it's a movie thread
It was relevant because you were inferring Hollywood influence on the characters
"I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
The first section, at Normandy, is probably one of the greatest movie scenes ever, although it was done before, and as well (with a better cast. I'll take John Wayne, Robert Mitchum, Henry Fonda and Sean Connery over Tom Hanks any day thanks), in The Longest Day.
The rest is some shitty, overblown, unrealistic Hollywood melodrama that is INSULTING to those who actually experienced the time in question.
Well I agree that the first 20 minutes is amazing and there is a huge drop after that, its still a good movie.
By the way I guess you know it is Insulting to those that were there because you were there right? I mean that is the only way you could possibly be able to make a blanket statement like that.
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I just said it's NOT profound, and it's not supposed to be Hollywood either. It's a book by Chuck Palahniuk. He's one of these nihilistic, anti-consumerist guys. That's why the character has a nice job etc. He has to. Some guy working on a shipping yard is supposed to hate his life. In Fight Club, the narrator has a nice job, a nice Ikea house and he's not satisfied. That's believable right? Having financial security isn't a passport to eternal contentment. Why is it so unbelievable that he might have a fight with a friend in the car park of a pub while hammered one night just because they're bored with everything else they do and they've never done it before?
God knows I've felt like it sometimes.
What I want to know is, why is this bit of dramatic license for the sake of a film any more reprehensible and full of shite than Saving Private Fucking Ryan?
Its not supposed to be a deep movie, its a american agro male fantasy story.
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Starship Troopers.
What a load of junk.
And yes, I know you guys like it because of the coed shower scene, but this movie is horrible.
Oh, and Escape From NY, all of the Planet of the Apes, Dumb and Dumber, Sister Act, The Fast and the Furious and Napoleon Dynamite
Cause I'm broken when I'm lonesome
And I don't feel right when you're gone away
Well I agree that the first 20 minutes is amazing and there is a huge drop after that, its still a good movie.
By the way I guess you know it is Insulting to those that were there because you were there right? I mean that is the only way you could possibly be able to make a blanket statement like that.
Well presumably World War II for the people there was not a cheesy, sentimental melodrama? That's what I'm getting at. Of course I wasn't there. You know that damn well. My point is, Spielberg wants to sell his films to Americans. Americans don't like to hear that their military endeavours are messy, sad, pathetic messes involving the tragic loss of young lives. They want heroic tales of valour.
"I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
Its not supposed to be a deep movie, its a american agro male fantasy story.
When the fuck did I say it WAS deep?!?! Why do people keep saying this to me? I said it wasn't supposed to be like FOUR times :eek:
Jesus christ...
As for it being an aggro male fantasy story, I think you have, like many others, missed the point.
It's about normal men, with normal feelings, not knowing how to act on their feelings so they do dumb shit and screw up. WOWEE. How fucking shocking. That stuff never happens in real life, does it? :rolleyes:
"I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
Well presumably World War II for the people there was not a cheesy, sentimental melodrama? That's what I'm getting at. Of course I wasn't there. You know that damn well. My point is, Spielberg wants to sell his films to Americans. Americans don't like to hear that their military endeavours are messy, sad, pathetic messes involving the tragic loss of young lives. They want heroic tales of valour.
Well of course, if you want non-hollywood war movies that show the brutality of war watch Hamburger Hill or Full Metal Jacket, not a war movie done by Spielberg
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Starship Troopers.
What a load of junk.
And yes, I know you guys like it because of the coed shower scene, but this movie is horrible.
Oh, and Escape From NY, all of the Planet of the Apes, Dumb and Dumber, Sister Act, The Fast and the Furious and Napoleon Dynamite
You are screwing with my head!!!!!!!
Escape From New York was AWESOME!!" Snake Pliscine was a real hero, Kurt Russell is amazing
Well of course, if you want non-hollywood war movies that show the brutality of war watch Hamburger Hill or Full Metal Jacket, not a war movie done by Spielberg
see, I thought he balanced it quite well. I see the glorious valor that Jez talks of, but also the horrid crudity of warfare came across throughout, I thought anyway. And there's any number of scenes where the humility and fraility of the carachters is portrayed
Well presumably World War II for the people there was not a cheesy, sentimental melodrama? That's what I'm getting at. Of course I wasn't there. You know that damn well. My point is, Spielberg wants to sell his films to Americans. Americans don't like to hear that their military endeavours are messy, sad, pathetic messes involving the tragic loss of young lives. They want heroic tales of valour.
"I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
Well of course, if you want non-hollywood war movies that show the brutality of war watch Hamburger Hill or Full Metal Jacket, not a war movie done by Spielberg
Full metal jacket.........one of my favorites.........along with patton..........
I loved it......thought i would hate it..........but i gave it a shot anyway........
I will never see a musical again after that. From everything I heard that was supposed to be a musical for people that didn't like musicals. Fuck that mess then. They sang about every god damn thing they were doing.
"I think I may have to go to the bbbbbbbbbbbbbbaaaaaaaaaaatttttttttthhhhhhhhhhhhrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrooooooooooommmmmmm"
But the worse was when they would stop singing and actually start to get shit done it would make me forget that it was a musical then BAM. Motherfucker starts singing again.
I understand this is the concept behind musicals, but man.
Full metal jacket.........one of my favorites.........along with patton..........
Full metal jacket was good. One of the most memorable scenes for me was the gunner in chopper. I just remember thinking that guy is so fucked up and so far gone. Little did I know that apparently I took that scene wrong and that guy is awesome and funny and that's it's totally cool to do that kind of shit.*
*Information obtained from majority of comments read after viewing the scene on youtube.
I will never see a musical again after that. From everything I heard that was supposed to be a musical for people that didn't like musicals. Fuck that mess then. They sang about every god damn thing they were doing.
"I think I may have to go to the bbbbbbbbbbbbbbaaaaaaaaaaatttttttttthhhhhhhhhhhhrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrooooooooooommmmmmm"
But the worse was when they would stop singing and actually start to get shit done it would make me forget that it was a musical then BAM. Motherfucker starts singing again.
I understand this is the concept behind musicals, but man.
A musical for people that don't like musicals????????
wouldn't that be a regular movie??????.........maybe it's just me but I don't see how that would work............
Sorry........you shouldn't have singled out the americans though........
I've never seen any other country treat war films in quite the same way. That's just the way it is. There's a film I saw a while back called Come and See. It's Belarussian or something, I'm not sure, I borrowed it off my uncle. On the DVD cover it said "This is war as Hollywood could NEVER portray it". That pretty much summed it up. Brutal, uncompromising, totally unattractive. Hell, it even had a LOVE STORY in it but was utterly devoid of sentimentalism The subject was just treated differently to Hollywood war films.
"I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
A musical for people that don't like musicals????????
wouldn't that be a regular movie??????.........maybe it's just me but I don't see how that would work............
Well, I talked to people that would never even think about watching a musical. They told me stuff like "Oh, you totally don't even notice that it's a musical at all! It's so dark and graphic! I thought it was awesome and I hate musicals."
Well, I noticed. Which really isn't a big deal. I'm sure there's plenty of movies I like that people think are stupid and such but I'm bored and putting off doing laundry.
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Yeah I probably should have used some people............that is a mistake on my part..........not my first and won't be my lost
And I don't feel right when you're gone away
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To me if a movie needs this much fancy bollocks to justify it's existence, then it doesn't deserve an existence.
It's a poor movie with a couple of cool actors with their shirts off for the girls, and some violence for the men.....see there's the formula...oh wait, there's a deep hidden meaning to result!! what a hit!!...yeah right
And Jez.....don't keep bringing up the book man.....it's a movie thread
Well I agree that the first 20 minutes is amazing and there is a huge drop after that, its still a good movie.
By the way I guess you know it is Insulting to those that were there because you were there right? I mean that is the only way you could possibly be able to make a blanket statement like that.
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Its not supposed to be a deep movie, its a american agro male fantasy story.
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What a load of junk.
And yes, I know you guys like it because of the coed shower scene, but this movie is horrible.
Oh, and Escape From NY, all of the Planet of the Apes, Dumb and Dumber, Sister Act, The Fast and the Furious and Napoleon Dynamite
And I don't feel right when you're gone away
Jesus christ...
As for it being an aggro male fantasy story, I think you have, like many others, missed the point.
It's about normal men, with normal feelings, not knowing how to act on their feelings so they do dumb shit and screw up. WOWEE. How fucking shocking. That stuff never happens in real life, does it? :rolleyes:
Yippee !!!
Just like I told you all
crap
if this makes you laugh, i feel bad for you
Well of course, if you want non-hollywood war movies that show the brutality of war watch Hamburger Hill or Full Metal Jacket, not a war movie done by Spielberg
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You are screwing with my head!!!!!!!
Escape From New York was AWESOME!!" Snake Pliscine was a real hero, Kurt Russell is amazing
take it back :(
That was funny.
No, but I will try it again.
And I don't feel right when you're gone away
see, I thought he balanced it quite well. I see the glorious valor that Jez talks of, but also the horrid crudity of warfare came across throughout, I thought anyway. And there's any number of scenes where the humility and fraility of the carachters is portrayed
All military endeavors are just that..........
I loved it......thought i would hate it..........but i gave it a shot anyway........
Full metal jacket.........one of my favorites.........along with patton..........
Sorry........you shouldn't have singled out the americans though........
I will never see a musical again after that. From everything I heard that was supposed to be a musical for people that didn't like musicals. Fuck that mess then. They sang about every god damn thing they were doing.
"I think I may have to go to the bbbbbbbbbbbbbbaaaaaaaaaaatttttttttthhhhhhhhhhhhrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrooooooooooommmmmmm"
But the worse was when they would stop singing and actually start to get shit done it would make me forget that it was a musical then BAM. Motherfucker starts singing again.
I understand this is the concept behind musicals, but man.
Full metal jacket was good. One of the most memorable scenes for me was the gunner in chopper. I just remember thinking that guy is so fucked up and so far gone. Little did I know that apparently I took that scene wrong and that guy is awesome and funny and that's it's totally cool to do that kind of shit.*
*Information obtained from majority of comments read after viewing the scene on youtube.
A musical for people that don't like musicals????????
wouldn't that be a regular movie??????.........maybe it's just me but I don't see how that would work............
Well, I talked to people that would never even think about watching a musical. They told me stuff like "Oh, you totally don't even notice that it's a musical at all! It's so dark and graphic! I thought it was awesome and I hate musicals."
Well, I noticed. Which really isn't a big deal. I'm sure there's plenty of movies I like that people think are stupid and such but I'm bored and putting off doing laundry.