what do you do for christmas day/eve (hanukka, etc)

GreenTeaDisease

cory wrote:

Holy shit! Funny you mention that. My baby boy has never puked on me. He does on my daughter ALL the time. Yesterday, I had held him for about an hour and my daughter got home from B-Ball practice. She grabs him from me, walks 10 feet, and he put some puke on her that would be similar to what happened to Bill Murray in Ghostbusters when he got slimed. Awful....ahhh, the joys of parenthood.

I babysat 2 kids for a summer job in college. one day I show up and the mum goes "by the way the older one has been sick and throwing up a lot so don't give her anything but water." I wanted to bolt at that point...I do not do kid vomit.

cory

GreenTeaDisease wrote:

I babysat 2 kids for a summer job in college. one day I show up and the mum goes "by the way the older one has been sick and throwing up a lot so don't give her anything but water." I wanted to bolt at that point...I do not do kid vomit.

My other two have blasted me many times. There's nothing like the smell of warm baby formula puke coupled with matting up in your chest hair. 6 showers won't wash that smell off. I'll admit, I don't like the baby years as much as I do the later years. My big boy is playing sports which is awesome. My girl is playing too but she also likes to write songs with me, and she's 10. Plus, neither one of them puke on me. BUT, I still have to wipe my son's ass.

True Story.

That sucks.

mookie9999

cory wrote:

BUT, I still have to wipe my son's ass.

True Story.

That sucks.

Circle of like man! He'll be wiping your ass one day so all will even out.

True Story.

Steve Dunne

cory wrote:

My other two have blasted me many times. There's nothing like the smell of warm baby formula puke coupled with matting up in your chest hair. 6 showers won't wash that smell off. I'll admit, I don't like the baby years as much as I do the later years. My big boy is playing sports which is awesome. My girl is playing too but she also likes to write songs with me, and she's 10. Plus, neither one of them puke on me. BUT, I still have to wipe my son's ass.

True Story.

That sucks.

Hey Oprah - Merry Christmas!!!

cory

mookie9999 wrote:

Circle of like man! He'll be wiping your ass one day so all will even out.

True Story.

I'll remember these times. I'll be 84 and tell him I'm finished and when he comes in to handle business, I'm gonna shit in his hands. Then I'll turn around and say "Payback's a motherfucker. Now clean me up sport."

I can't wait:)

cory

Steve Dunne wrote:

Hey Oprah - Merry Christmas!!!

Merry Christmas Steven. I love to turn you on too.

The Champ

GreenTeaDisease wrote:

1) why do you assume I'm getting married? I might, I might not. Everyone might, everyone might not. this is exactly the type of assumptions I have to speak against.

2) It DOES effect me. it affects everyone. it's the way we think of things and the conventional wisdom. it can be damaging if followed blindly.

3) Why do you assume that I am assuming that everyone has a perfect childhood with people who have been there for them? of course I'm not. But if someone HAS had that they should take these people who care about them into consideration and value all their relationships equally. that's basically all I'm saying- in this society we tend to value romantic relationships more than any others, and there is no logical reason to do so. It can in fact be damaging. I've been reading a lot about this lately.

1) Can you be anymore of a party pooper?

2) Why must you insist on everyone being as miserable as you?

3) Please don't anyone misunderstand. These questions are not geared toward anyone specifically, just general questions pertaining to today's society..

The Champ

GraySaturday wrote:

greentea, why dont you get back to us when you're married. You like to tell everyone what to do and one parent gets the kid and crap. Why dont you speak out so strongly on the subject when it actually effects you. Being in a relationship is about sharing. Youre so naive for your age. Good luck with a solid relationship someday, if you can't share holidays there will be many more challenging things that will come your way.

And btw, not all people had a rosey childhood and are therefore stepping out on people who were always there for them. You get down on soulsinging for generalizing, but yet you think everyone should fit this weird holiday mold of yours. Give me a break.

I'd have agree with the comment 'if you can't share holidays there will be many more challenging things that will come your way.' May this be the least of people's problems..

mookie9999

cory wrote:

I'll remember these times. I'll be 84 and tell him I'm finished and when he comes in to handle business, I'm gonna shit in his hands. Then I'll turn around and say "Payback's a motherfucker. Now clean me up sport."

I can't wait:)

Then give him a little pinch on his cheek and with a twinkle in his eye he will call the retirement home which has been on speed dial since the day you moved in!

GreenTeaDisease

The Champ wrote:

1) Can you be anymore of a party pooper?

2) Why must you insist on everyone being as miserable as you?

3) Please don't anyone misunderstand. These questions are not geared toward anyone specifically, just general questions pertaining to today's society..

I'm not miserable in the least. I just read and think.

The Champ

GreenTeaDisease wrote:

I'm not miserable in the least. I just read and think.

It's safe to say that everyone in here reads and thinks. However, the content of the literature and thoughts may help persuade emotional mood..

Again, talking in general terms..

stuckinline

GreenTeaDisease wrote:

I just don't think that people should abandon the people who have been there for them for their entire lives just because they moved in with someone else.

gtd, is someone 'abandoning' you this holiday season?

and i don't mean this in a negative way, by your posts, i sense someone hurt your feelings

GreenTeaDisease

gluten919 wrote:

gtd, is someone 'abandoning' you this holiday season?

and i don't mean this in a negative way, by your posts, i sense someone hurt your feelings

well, I just don't get to see my relatives anymore for christmas, so it's kind of like what's the point. Also I feel bad for people whose kids/siblings/parents/whoever don't want to spend holidays with them anymore for no other reason than convention.

I've just been doing a lot of reading and thinking on these types of topics recently, so the situation in my family has started to make more sense given general societal trends, and I am starting to recognize the nature of it all as being a very negative thing that should be changed. I'm not completely nuts- these things ARE being studied by sociologists and other social scientists as we speak.

decides2dream

GreenTeaDisease wrote:

I think if you get married, each party should just spend christmas with their own family. I mean why the hell not? It simplifies things, and no one ends up disappointed. If I had a nickel for every time one of my married friends complained about upsetting parents and whatnot because they celebrated with the in-laws, I'd be a rich woman. But the answer is so simple, no one seems to notice it.

it's been pretty well covered already, but i have to chime in anyway.

there is NO way in this world i rather spend the holidays with ANYone over my husband. period. adults need to suck it up and grow up, and realize that 'family' is flexible and grows/changes...and accept the changes that come with it. i am 'lucky' in the fact that my husband's family was never close....rather dysfunctional really :(...sad for his childhood, but made our holiday tradtions 'easy.' as in, we spend every holiday with my family. our marriage actually brought his family a bit 'closer'...b/c family is important to me, and so we did things to bring people together. no issues. however, even in time issues develop b/c once you 'aways' do something one way, and eventually want change - as in for us, NOT going to my sister's in NJ anymore ON the holiday - people still get upset. i say, oh fucking well...get over it. and she has....and now we ALL have new tradtions we're all happier with.


and for those who say christmas 'magic' is gone...or only exists if you have kids in your life...i whole-heartedly disagree. it may not be the 'same' as when i was a child...but i still fully feel the spirit and magic of the holiday...and i absolutely adore christmas.

GreenTeaDisease

decides2dream wrote:

as in for us, NOT going to my sister's in NJ anymore ON the holiday - people still get upset. i say, oh fucking well...get over it. and she has....and now we ALL have new tradtions we're all happier with.

what if your sister had nothing else to do (no alternative "new tradition") though? What if EVERYONE in her life decided to make the same decision you did and spend the holidays away from her? Know what I'm sayin'?

decides2dream

GreenTeaDisease wrote:

what if your sister had nothing else to do (no alternative "new tradition") though? What if EVERYONE in her life decided to make the same decision you did and spend the holidays away from her? Know what I'm sayin'?

no one has.....she already had a husband and children, and as it happens, yes....my immediate family DID make the choice all at the same time. it was time. we've spent almost a lifetime of going there spending it with her kids, etc...the traffic, the aggravation....seemed utterly ridiculous when we are all so close here, so easy....and get together at another time.

you are not 'abandoned' either....you have your immediate family. and ya know what? even if you didn't...there are PLENTY of people out on their own, and they create new traditions for themselves, friends, etc. life is all about change, and rolling with it.

i just think everyone needs to take responsibility for their own happiness. while my family is very important to me, i do not want to feel dependant on them, nor them on me...for traditions, happiness....etc...it's all choice. my husband is the single most important person to me on this earth. it does not diminish the love i have for my family.....and if at times things clash, yes, i always choose my husband first. however, i really don't *expect* anyone to do anything...i want all to choose what's right for them....and i always hope we all find time for each other, which we do, just not on some specified date that falls on the calendar.

c'est la vie. i am not telling you or anyone else how to live. i am all for live and let live. i merely offered MY personal perspective, and i suspect many a married/cohabitating couple feels the same.


so while i 'know what you're sayin'.....i simply disagree with it. if you're an adult....you can manage and grow and not pout over the changes in life. you can take them as opportunities, or choose to wallow.....either is a choice.

GreenTeaDisease

decides2dream wrote:

no one has.....she already had a husband and children, and as it happens, yes....my immediate family DID make the choice all at the same time. it was time. we've spent almost a lifetime of going there spending it with her kids, etc...the traffic, the aggravation....seemed utterly ridiculous when we are all so close here, so easy....and get together at another time.

right that's YOUR specific situation. I'm trying to make a point that is not dependent on specific situations. I referenced it in the hypothetical as an example.

decides2dream wrote:

you are not 'abandoned' either....you have your immediate family. and ya know what? even if you didn't...there are PLENTY of people out on their own, and they create new traditions for themselves, friends, etc. life is all about change, and rolling with it.

right, I am not completely abandoned either. but again, that is my specific situation. there are people who are. and you know what, if I were I would be fucking PISSED. Because how on earth do you make a "new holiday tradition" for yourself? Do you sit there alone by the tree and exchange presents with yourself? yeah that doesn't sound depressing at all.

decides2dream wrote:

so while i 'know what you're sayin'.....i simply disagree with it. if you're an adult....you can manage and grow and not pout over the changes in life. you can take them as opportunities, or choose to wallow.....either is a choice.

I'm sorry, I think people you love leaving you for someone else is reason to pissed. I don't think we, as a society, should "accept" shit like that and roll with it. It's just sick behavior. You d2d remind me very much of one of my friends- the queen of spin. you say things that sound very good and positive like "responsible for own happiness" to justify your own opinions and not "sound negative". Sometimes there ARE things that are wrong in this world and spinning them is just shoving them under the carpet.

and all of this is not just about people's personal feelings being hurt either. the increasing insulation of the suburban family is a going to amount to huge problem in this country.

decides2dream

GreenTeaDisease wrote:

right that's YOUR specific situation. I'm trying to make a point that is not dependent on specific situations. I referenced it in the hypothetical as an example.




right, I am not completely abandoned either. but again, that is my specific situation. there are people who are. and you know what, if I were I would be fucking PISSED. Because how on earth do you make a "new holiday tradition" for yourself? Do you sit there alone by the tree and exchange presents with yourself? yeah that doesn't sound depressing at all.




I'm sorry, I think people you love leaving you for someone else is reason to pissed. I don't think we, as a society, should "accept" shit like that and roll with it. It's just sick behavior. You d2d remind me very much of one of my friends- the queen of spin. you say things that sound very good and positive like "responsible for own happiness" to justify your own opinions and not "sound negative". Sometimes there ARE things that are wrong in this world and spinning them is just shoving them under the carpet.

you want to be pissed, be pissed...that's your choice. i see it very differently. i don't see anyone 'leaving' anyone..i see people making new life choices. adults do that. some make poor choices for themselves or others, some make great choices...and so it goes. it is up to us, as indicviduals, to work on our own lives and choices. again, i was not telling you nor anyone how they *should* act/live/behave...we all have to make our own choices.


also, i honestly couldn't care less what you or just about anyone else may think of my ideas or choices...so i feel no need/desire to *justify* any of em. i merely stated my personal choices/beliefs...and said as much. so yea, see/say what you will..i don't think i am 'spinning' anything...but i also do not abandon anyone either. i don't think any of my family/friends would EVER think such about me.

for me, what i say and do IS positive and good, to me...thus why i choose to do and think as i do...b/c it IS positive and good imo, in my life. others will make other choices. everyone needs to make their own happiness. if that's 'spin' in your opinion, so be it....that really has nothing to do with me or my life choices.

GreenTeaDisease

decides2dream wrote:

you want to be pissed, be pissed...that's your choice. i see it very differently. i don't see anyone 'leaving' anyone..i see people making new life choices. adults do that. some make poor choices for themselves or others, some make great choices...and so it goes. it is up to us, as indicviduals, to work on our own lives and choices. again, i was not telling you nor anyone how they *should* act/live/behave...we all have to make our own choices.


also, i honestly couldn't care less what you or just about anyone else may think of my ideas or choices...so i feel no need/desire to *justify* any of em. i merely stated my personal choices/beliefs...and said as much. so yea, see/say what you will..i don't think i am 'spinning' anything...but i also do not abandon anyone either. i don't think any of my family/friends would EVER think such about me.

for me, what i say and do IS positive and good, to me...thus why i choose to do and think as i do...b/c it IS positive and good imo, in my life. others will make other choices. everyone needs to make their own happiness. if that's 'spin' in your opinion, so be it....that really has nothing to do with me or my life choices.

But this isn't a question of people's "personal preferences and beliefs" it is a problem facing us and we have to change the way we think about those "personal preferences and beliefs" we have to stop and say these are the values I accept- should I be? Are values true or are they a product of the conventional wisdom? is this conventional wisdom hurting anyone?

cory

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