a lot of the times i usually agree with the general take on the movie as most of the critics. but sometimes i have the exact opposite feelings. like i actually thought waterworld wasnt terrible. and juno was one of the worst peices of shit iv ever seen. so maybe this one might surprise me.
I hope we are in agreement on the new X-files, but MY GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Waterworld was perhaps one of the worst movies created in the last 30 years!!!!! Juno, while not the next "Godfather" was still an impressive film.
I'm sorry. I hate to say it but as a long time fan of the show I have to say that this movie was just flat out awful. Even seeing Mulder and Scully together again wasn't enough. It seemed it was nothing more than a long, drawn out episode of the X-Files that I would've been disappointed with back in 1996. The dialogue, at times, was terrible, and there were so many plot holes and things not addressed that it made the entire story seem incoherent. I hate to say it, but this was one of the worst movies I've seen this year.
We are the facilitators of our own creative evolution.--Bill Hicks
It seemed it was nothing more than a long, drawn out episode of the X-Files that I would've been disappointed with back in 1996.
This pretty much sums it up.
It was pretty much a very long, mostly boring, episode, that had nothing to do with anything from the show. It still felt like the X-files, but it didn't really help it.
I saw it yesterday! I liked it but I'm a big fan of the show, I never missed an episode.
I don't think it was like super amazing like the way people are talking about Dark Knight, but I don't think it's as bad as the reviews make it out to be.
It's dark and atmospheric and a little bit twisted and oh wait, POSSIBLE SPOILER:
has nothing at all to do with the mythology... .
but everything to do w/the relationship btwn Mulder and Scully, which will be a big surprise.
But I thought it felt like a special 2hr episode of the show, and definitely if you are a fan of the show there are little twists that you will appreciate.
I actually liked it more than I liked the first movie. I was terribly disappointed by that one.
And Amanda Peet is a terrible actress. She is really badly miscast in my opinion. She's like the world's worst FBI agent. I wanted to yell at the screen: Girl, call for back-up!
And Xzibit gets to walk around going "FBI! FBI!"
lol
no one else saw it yet?
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i also saw it. i really didnt think it was that bad. and i think the hospital stuff had to do with scully's faith and her knowledge of science, she finally was able to combine the two in her life. and the idea that scully was trying to use a very radical form of treatment to save that boy, and that frankenstein villian was just further up that alley. obviously scully wasnt killing people to save one life, but still. new treatments are always viewed as alittle evil.
I thought the movie was pretty good, definitely not as bad as I had been hearing. It wasn't fantastic, the plot was a bit thin, but I enjoyed my two hours at the movies. I thought they did a good job of showing the development of/between Mulder and Scully six years after the events in the last episode of the TV series.
I hope we are in agreement on the new X-files, but MY GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Waterworld was perhaps one of the worst movies created in the last 30 years!!!!! Juno, while not the next "Godfather" was still an impressive film.
You are nuts!
Oh, and yes, Juno almost made me fall asleep when I watched it. What was impressive about it? The weird-ass, lame soundtrack? The overly goofy characters? It felt like they made a movie about Napoleon Dynamite's girlfriend getting pregnant. As for Waterworld, I would never call it great, not by any stretch of the imagination, but it was interesting enough.
I thought the movie was pretty good, definitely not as bad as I had been hearing. It wasn't fantastic, the plot was a bit thin, but I enjoyed my two hours at the movies. I thought they did a good job of showing the development of/between Mulder and Scully six years after the events in the last episode of the TV series.
very true
i was just disappointed because i expected a lot of answers. i just hope this movie really is leading up to another WITH the answers.
anyway, i do like the fact that they showed what kind of relationship Mulder and Scully have now.
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Oh, and yes, Juno almost made me fall asleep when I watched it. What was impressive about it? The weird-ass, lame soundtrack? The overly goofy characters? It felt like they made a movie about Napoleon Dynamite's girlfriend getting pregnant. As for Waterworld, I would never call it great, not by any stretch of the imagination, but it was interesting enough.
my thoughts exactly
i still have no idea how juno was so liked by everyone i know. i had to stop watching it about 45 minutes through because of how bored (and annoyed) i was. i eventually finished it because i thought maybe it might get better, but it didnt. IMO it was just awful from start to finish. every joke in the movie wasnt funny, just annoying to hear. i dont think i enjoyed any part of it.
and waterworld wasnt one of the best movies by far, but think the visuals were one of the best of its time, and it was nowhere near as bad as critics said.
btw, most likely going to see the x files tomorrow. im hoping the negative critics are wrong.
they call them fingers, but i never see them fing. oh, there they go
I'm sorry. I hate to say it but as a long time fan of the show I have to say that this movie was just flat out awful. Even seeing Mulder and Scully together again wasn't enough. It seemed it was nothing more than a long, drawn out episode of the X-Files that I would've been disappointed with back in 1996. The dialogue, at times, was terrible, and there were so many plot holes and things not addressed that it made the entire story seem incoherent. I hate to say it, but this was one of the worst movies I've seen this year.
I LOVE the X-files,but wow what a disapointment. I know that they didn't want to do another movie about the aliens,but they had better monster of the week shows back in the day.There was more gore and wow factors in the 1hr eppisodes when the show ran,than in this movie.
I wouldn't say this is the worst movie of the summer (The Happening was a big old stinking piece of poo),but definitly not the best.
Side note: The whole beard thing I just wanted to tell David Duchovnie that "Grizzly Adams called and he wanted his beard back!" Damn that bugged me........
when you get confused just listen to the music play........
"You damn well can't lick the system,but you can sure give it a good fondeling."-sleazy estate man(Hugh Laurie on A bit of Fry and Laurie)
"Judas Priest on a two stroke moped!"(Stephen Fry)
I saw it... and let's just say, I was definitely disappointed and I agree with your comments.
Xzibit was just a tool and Amanda Peet.... ugh.
And what was up with all the hospital scenes with Scully. It really added little to the plot and it felt like filler.
I wasn't disappointed with this movie, I was disappointed in the first XFiles movie, Fight the Future or whatever it was called.
I didn't mind the hospital scenes and I didn't think it was filler. They were showing her career and her faith, as the other person said, and on some level probably related to how she couldn't save her own son. Ie: when the mother said "If you were a parent, you would understand," Scully's face says it all and you can almost feel what she was thinking even though she wasn't saying anything.
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I honestly am worried after reading these reviews; I wasn't expecting genius. I was expecting something better than the last film. I'll be very upset if it's terrible.
This show, in its first 3, 4, and I would argue 5 seasons was the most creative, ground-breaking and fresh show on TV. It was very often a masterpiece. They had the most fascinating, beautifully acted and witty scripts in television drama today. And their take on Sci-fi was, if not totally new, definitely enough to inspire millions of fans and reinvigorate the genre. It was a benchmark of the 90s.
Can Chris Carter not be bothered anymore? What's happened? He'd probably say he's run out of fresh ideas but sorry, that's just not good enough; Mr. Carter, HONESTLY, give me a pen or Microsoft Word and three hours in a pub with you and I could tell you exactly how to write a good X Files film with a brand new plot idea. How hard can it be? I can think of so many myths, legends and folk tales they've never touched. They haven't even scratched the surface when it comes to fascinating paranormal phenomenon.
Fuck reluctant psychics assisting the FBI to look for a killer... there's already an episode with the same plot, from season 3. And I hear something about a Frankenstein monster? Season 5, remember?
Phew.
'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'
I honestly am worried after reading these reviews; I wasn't expecting genius. I was expecting something better than the last film. I'll be very upset if it's terrible.
I don't think it's terrible. But I don't think it's a 'masterpiece.' As I said, I liked it better than the first movie. I wouldn't go by other's opinions, I saw the bad newspaper reviews but I went to see it anyway. The 'reviewers' may not know the series or may not have ever seen an episode. Is it out in England yet?
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i was just disappointed because i expected a lot of answers. i just hope this movie really is leading up to another WITH the answers.
anyway, i do like the fact that they showed what kind of relationship Mulder and Scully have now.
And that's another thing.... I'm so bored of this show trying to give us 'answers'. I don't even think Chris Carter knew the answers towards the end.... he had to dig himself out of a hole from which, after all that time, there weren't really any answers. Satisfying conclusions in places, maybe, but not answers. When this show tries to reveal 'the truth', it falls flat.. the whole point of it is that there just is no objective 'truth'. It's a statement about existential frustration and coming to terms with it.... at least it used to be.
I don't want answers, they've tried that. But I do want to be entertained by excellent scripts and powerful, creative drama.
'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'
I don't think it's terrible. But I don't think it's a 'masterpiece.' As I said, I liked it better than the first movie. I wouldn't go by other's opinions, I saw the bad newspaper reviews but I went to see it anyway. The 'reviewers' may not know the series or may not have ever seen an episode. Is it out in England yet?
It's out this week, I think. I'll be seeing it next week on holiday probably.
And you're right, I guess there are clueless reviewers out there; and I do hope this is a movie for fans, in which case I can imagine that things will seem out of place or out of context to people who aren't... hopefully it's just a case of that.
'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'
It's out this week, I think. I'll be seeing it next week on holiday probably.
And you're right, I guess there are clueless reviewers out there; and I do hope this is a movie for fans, in which case I can imagine that things will seem out of place or out of context to people who aren't... hopefully it's just a case of that.
I would say it's a movie more for fans of the show, but you don't have to be a fan to see it or understand it.
but there are 'in-jokes' and aspects taken from the series that only fans will get.
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I would say it's a movie more for fans of the show, but you don't have to be a fan to see it or understand it.
but there are 'in-jokes' and aspects taken from the series that only fans will get.
I saw it this weekend, and I liked it. It is very much like the scary monster episodes of the X-files. I watched a few this morning: (I can get the episode names, but I am too lazy): the episode with the Great Muttato (the Cher episode), the Peacock family episode (the inbred mutants who keep their mother under the bed and propagate the family with her), the circus freaks (one of the freaks has a twin that lives inside him-the twin is mutated and is killing everyone, until the puzzle guy eats him), the Flukeman, etc. Having said that, the writers concentrated more on the relationship between Scully and Mulder. Also, they set the stage for their return of both Mulder and Scully to the FBI (all is forgiven). To be critical, this movies lacked certain elements fans have come to expect (the tongue and cheek stuff plus the social commentary). However, I think they were trying something new. It was a darker film from an emotional point of view. Both Scully and Mulder, but especially Scully are suffering the aftereffects of where the show left off. I really hope they do another one that starts to tie up the loose ends and bring the epic to its close in the way Frank Herbert's son has brought the Dune epic to its conclusion using his father's notes. I just finished reading Sandworms of Dune, and it was very satisfying. This movie was a lot like God Emperor of Dune, not the best book in the series, but essential in moving the action forward. Without God Emperor of Dune the conclusion of the series would not be as compelling as it is.
By the way, there is a nice little touch at the end for those willing to sit through the credits.
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yeah, it's kind of hard to see in that shitty youtube clip, but it's Mulder and Scully on the boat, and a helicopter shadow is shown, flying above them. Mulder and Scully wave at the helicopter.
I guess this is a spoiler, so if you don't want to know what happens after the credits then don't read... really, it's not that important anyway...
yeah, it's kind of hard to see in that shitty youtube clip, but it's Mulder and Scully on the boat, and a helicopter shadow is shown, flying above them. Mulder and Scully wave at the helicopter.
awesome! THank you so much for the scoop!
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Yes, in the theater you can clearly see that the people in the boat are Scully and Mulder. This scene relates to some dialogue from the film.
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"That's a repulsive combination of horrible information and bad breath."-Pickles
"Remember, death is a natural part of the workplace. So, when you see a dead body at work, don't freak out, just ring your death bell." "ting"-Toki Wartooth
We went to go see it tonight, but we had to leave. There was a couple near us who kept talking, so finally I asked the guy very polietly if he could keep it down. He tells me "Fuck off, this ain't no private screening" then he continued to harrass us and threaten us. I wanted to kick the living shit out of him, but my girlfriend was the voice of reason and made me leave. I'm a teacher and if I get arrested I'd lose my job. I ended up bitching at the manager that we felt unsafe, and he gave us 4 free tickets. The best part was that I was the asshole for wanting it to be quiet while we watched the film. Remember when people would go to movies and watch them. We went to see Batman last week and half the theater was texting the whole time. I love movies but I am ready to stop going and wait for the dvd.
the movie was mediocre, entertaining but nothing amazing.
one question...
**SPOILER (maybe)**
.. who was the other picture when they showed bush's portrait and played the theme music? what was the significance there?
i think my favorite part of the movie was when skinner randomly shows up to save the day haha. woulda liked an appearance by the lone gunmen though
The other picture was J. Edgar Hoover, the first director of the FBI. I think what was funny about the juxtaposition was J. Edgar Hoover supposedly liked dressing in women's clothes.
We can't see the lone gunmen anymore. They died saving everyone from a biological terrorist attack.
Skinner showing up was not random. Scully argues with the head agent that they need to find Mulder. He refuses to help, so Scully says she is going to go over his head. They mention later that Scully is accompanied by some "bigwig" FBI agent from Washington, who turns out to be Skinner. I thought it was a clever way of both bringing Skinner back and showing he has been promoted.
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I hope we are in agreement on the new X-files, but MY GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Waterworld was perhaps one of the worst movies created in the last 30 years!!!!! Juno, while not the next "Godfather" was still an impressive film.
You are nuts!
It was pretty much a very long, mostly boring, episode, that had nothing to do with anything from the show. It still felt like the X-files, but it didn't really help it.
I don't think it was like super amazing like the way people are talking about Dark Knight, but I don't think it's as bad as the reviews make it out to be.
It's dark and atmospheric and a little bit twisted and oh wait, POSSIBLE SPOILER:
has nothing at all to do with the mythology... .
but everything to do w/the relationship btwn Mulder and Scully, which will be a big surprise.
But I thought it felt like a special 2hr episode of the show, and definitely if you are a fan of the show there are little twists that you will appreciate.
I actually liked it more than I liked the first movie. I was terribly disappointed by that one.
And Amanda Peet is a terrible actress. She is really badly miscast in my opinion. She's like the world's worst FBI agent. I wanted to yell at the screen: Girl, call for back-up!
And Xzibit gets to walk around going "FBI! FBI!"
lol
no one else saw it yet?
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6/25/08
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I saw it... and let's just say, I was definitely disappointed and I agree with your comments.
Xzibit was just a tool and Amanda Peet.... ugh.
And what was up with all the hospital scenes with Scully. It really added little to the plot and it felt like filler.
Oh, and yes, Juno almost made me fall asleep when I watched it. What was impressive about it? The weird-ass, lame soundtrack? The overly goofy characters? It felt like they made a movie about Napoleon Dynamite's girlfriend getting pregnant. As for Waterworld, I would never call it great, not by any stretch of the imagination, but it was interesting enough.
very true
i was just disappointed because i expected a lot of answers. i just hope this movie really is leading up to another WITH the answers.
anyway, i do like the fact that they showed what kind of relationship Mulder and Scully have now.
You got to spend it all
i still have no idea how juno was so liked by everyone i know. i had to stop watching it about 45 minutes through because of how bored (and annoyed) i was. i eventually finished it because i thought maybe it might get better, but it didnt. IMO it was just awful from start to finish. every joke in the movie wasnt funny, just annoying to hear. i dont think i enjoyed any part of it.
and waterworld wasnt one of the best movies by far, but think the visuals were one of the best of its time, and it was nowhere near as bad as critics said.
btw, most likely going to see the x files tomorrow. im hoping the negative critics are wrong.
I LOVE the X-files,but wow what a disapointment. I know that they didn't want to do another movie about the aliens,but they had better monster of the week shows back in the day.There was more gore and wow factors in the 1hr eppisodes when the show ran,than in this movie.
I wouldn't say this is the worst movie of the summer (The Happening was a big old stinking piece of poo),but definitly not the best.
Side note: The whole beard thing I just wanted to tell David Duchovnie that "Grizzly Adams called and he wanted his beard back!" Damn that bugged me........
"You damn well can't lick the system,but you can sure give it a good fondeling."-sleazy estate man(Hugh Laurie on A bit of Fry and Laurie)
"Judas Priest on a two stroke moped!"(Stephen Fry)
I wasn't disappointed with this movie, I was disappointed in the first XFiles movie, Fight the Future or whatever it was called.
I didn't mind the hospital scenes and I didn't think it was filler. They were showing her career and her faith, as the other person said, and on some level probably related to how she couldn't save her own son. Ie: when the mother said "If you were a parent, you would understand," Scully's face says it all and you can almost feel what she was thinking even though she wasn't saying anything.
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6/25/08
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This show, in its first 3, 4, and I would argue 5 seasons was the most creative, ground-breaking and fresh show on TV. It was very often a masterpiece. They had the most fascinating, beautifully acted and witty scripts in television drama today. And their take on Sci-fi was, if not totally new, definitely enough to inspire millions of fans and reinvigorate the genre. It was a benchmark of the 90s.
Can Chris Carter not be bothered anymore? What's happened? He'd probably say he's run out of fresh ideas but sorry, that's just not good enough; Mr. Carter, HONESTLY, give me a pen or Microsoft Word and three hours in a pub with you and I could tell you exactly how to write a good X Files film with a brand new plot idea. How hard can it be? I can think of so many myths, legends and folk tales they've never touched. They haven't even scratched the surface when it comes to fascinating paranormal phenomenon.
Fuck reluctant psychics assisting the FBI to look for a killer... there's already an episode with the same plot, from season 3. And I hear something about a Frankenstein monster? Season 5, remember?
Phew.
- the great Sir Leo Harrison
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And that's another thing.... I'm so bored of this show trying to give us 'answers'. I don't even think Chris Carter knew the answers towards the end.... he had to dig himself out of a hole from which, after all that time, there weren't really any answers. Satisfying conclusions in places, maybe, but not answers. When this show tries to reveal 'the truth', it falls flat.. the whole point of it is that there just is no objective 'truth'. It's a statement about existential frustration and coming to terms with it.... at least it used to be.
I don't want answers, they've tried that. But I do want to be entertained by excellent scripts and powerful, creative drama.
- the great Sir Leo Harrison
It's out this week, I think. I'll be seeing it next week on holiday probably.
And you're right, I guess there are clueless reviewers out there; and I do hope this is a movie for fans, in which case I can imagine that things will seem out of place or out of context to people who aren't... hopefully it's just a case of that.
- the great Sir Leo Harrison
but there are 'in-jokes' and aspects taken from the series that only fans will get.
"Sometimes life should be consumed in measured doses"
6-01-06
6/25/08
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and Metsy!
I saw it this weekend, and I liked it. It is very much like the scary monster episodes of the X-files. I watched a few this morning: (I can get the episode names, but I am too lazy): the episode with the Great Muttato (the Cher episode), the Peacock family episode (the inbred mutants who keep their mother under the bed and propagate the family with her), the circus freaks (one of the freaks has a twin that lives inside him-the twin is mutated and is killing everyone, until the puzzle guy eats him), the Flukeman, etc. Having said that, the writers concentrated more on the relationship between Scully and Mulder. Also, they set the stage for their return of both Mulder and Scully to the FBI (all is forgiven). To be critical, this movies lacked certain elements fans have come to expect (the tongue and cheek stuff plus the social commentary). However, I think they were trying something new. It was a darker film from an emotional point of view. Both Scully and Mulder, but especially Scully are suffering the aftereffects of where the show left off. I really hope they do another one that starts to tie up the loose ends and bring the epic to its close in the way Frank Herbert's son has brought the Dune epic to its conclusion using his father's notes. I just finished reading Sandworms of Dune, and it was very satisfying. This movie was a lot like God Emperor of Dune, not the best book in the series, but essential in moving the action forward. Without God Emperor of Dune the conclusion of the series would not be as compelling as it is.
By the way, there is a nice little touch at the end for those willing to sit through the credits.
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nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo not after the credits stuff, i missed it.
DAMMIT ALL!! i missed it too! somebody PM me and please tell me what happened! :(
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crappy quality, but it's the best I could find.
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yeah, it's kind of hard to see in that shitty youtube clip, but it's Mulder and Scully on the boat, and a helicopter shadow is shown, flying above them. Mulder and Scully wave at the helicopter.
"Sometimes life should be consumed in measured doses"
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6/25/08
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and Metsy!
Yes, in the theater you can clearly see that the people in the boat are Scully and Mulder. This scene relates to some dialogue from the film.
But mr. justam
is who I am
"That's a repulsive combination of horrible information and bad breath."-Pickles
"Remember, death is a natural part of the workplace. So, when you see a dead body at work, don't freak out, just ring your death bell." "ting"-Toki Wartooth
THANK YOU! i had tried to find it but was unsuccessful...
You got to spend it all
one question...
**SPOILER (maybe)**
.. who was the other picture when they showed bush's portrait and played the theme music? what was the significance there?
i think my favorite part of the movie was when skinner randomly shows up to save the day haha. woulda liked an appearance by the lone gunmen though
We can't see the lone gunmen anymore. They died saving everyone from a biological terrorist attack.
Skinner showing up was not random. Scully argues with the head agent that they need to find Mulder. He refuses to help, so Scully says she is going to go over his head. They mention later that Scully is accompanied by some "bigwig" FBI agent from Washington, who turns out to be Skinner. I thought it was a clever way of both bringing Skinner back and showing he has been promoted.
But mr. justam
is who I am
"That's a repulsive combination of horrible information and bad breath."-Pickles
"Remember, death is a natural part of the workplace. So, when you see a dead body at work, don't freak out, just ring your death bell." "ting"-Toki Wartooth