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  • RygarRygar Posts: 8,689
    What? Why? The 'I want to believe' tag was always part of the UFO mythology. This film will be like a stand-alone episode. I'd love to call bullshit on this one...
    No BS, it's true.
    Most of the show was about alien this or alien that anyway.
  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    i want to believe this film won't tank. and that it won't be about aliens. unless theyre illegal and coming from south of the rio bravo. :)
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  • faithful227faithful227 Posts: 352
    Makes sense. "I Want To Believe" was always a reference to the show. I think it would be far fetched to think there would be no alien references in an X-Files movie. It was kind of the theme of the entire series?

    Very excited to see this.
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  • westsidepiewestsidepie Posts: 627
    Makes sense. "I Want To Believe" was always a reference to the show. I think it would be far fetched to think there would be no alien references in an X-Files movie. It was kind of the theme of the entire series?

    Very excited to see this.

    I think the alien mythology was the best part of the X-files. The cultural references run very deep, and it is interesting to see how Carter expands on them. The other side of the X-files was based on the weird stuff. These types of themes, monsters, people with mutated needs, were based on the TV show Kolchak: The Night Stalker with Darren McGavin. Carter on numerous occasions and in the DVDs sights Night Stalker as one of the influences for the show. The original Night Stalker tracks down a serial killer who turns out to be a vampire. One of my favorite episodes of the X-files is where Carter weaved these two threads together. It was masterful. Darren McGavin guest starred as a retired FBI agent. The FBI agent that started the X-files. Mulder goes to see him about his association with Mulder's father. It really was really a great tribute to Night Stalker. I have all nine seasons on DVD, so it you want to know exactly what episode it is, I will look it up.

    I just pulled this from wikipedia. It was something I didn't know about Night Stalker. The mythology of NS included a UFO encounter and government conspiricy:

    Main article: List of Kolchak: The Night Stalker Episodes
    Between the series' short run and the two movies, they managed to tackle most of the major monster myths. Two stories about vampires, one about a werewolf, a mummy and a zombie story make up the classic monster genre. In a related classification, it also included a good old fashioned ghost story, one about witches and one involving a pact with Satan. A story about Jack the Ripper is one of the few based an an actual historical figure, which is given a supernatural explanation. Three more episodes dealt with immortality and aging related murders, involving a mad scientist, a succubus and Helen of Troy/Hecate. Four episodes focused on monsters and spirits based in native folklore (two involving Native American legends, one Hindu and one Creole). Another featured a killer android, which was a popular subject of the 70's. The series even tackled a UFO encounter and an invisible alien, complete with a government conspiracy. Of the more esoteric were episodes about a headless motorcycle rider (the headless horseman myth), an animated knight's suit of armor possessed by a spirit out for revenge, a prehistoric man thawed back to life and a lizard creature protecting its eggs.
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  • PearlJamaholicPearlJamaholic Posts: 2,019
    just because it wont focus on the mythology doesnt mean the characters wont be continued. i want to believe sounds like mulder or scully may be on some quest for answers or maybe another of mulder's giving up on the truth episodes. should be an interesting movie no matter what the title refers to.
  • PaukPauk Posts: 1,084
    It makes sense from a marketing point of view. They can simply use the "I WANT TO BELIEVE" posters to advertise the film. It's an iconic image, easily recognisable, directly linked to X Files and gives nothing away about the film.

    But just saying "X Files: I Want To Believe" does sound a bit stupid. Most people will probably refer to it as X Files 2.
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    I think the alien mythology was the best part of the X-files. The cultural references run very deep, and it is interesting to see how Carter expands on them. The other side of the X-files was based on the weird stuff. These types of themes, monsters, people with mutated needs, were based on the TV show Kolchak: The Night Stalker with Darren McGavin. Carter on numerous occasions and in the DVDs sights Night Stalker as one of the influences for the show. The original Night Stalker tracks down a serial killer who turns out to be a vampire. One of my favorite episodes of the X-files is where Carter weaved these two threads together. It was masterful. Darren McGavin guest starred as a retired FBI agent. The FBI agent that started the X-files. Mulder goes to see him about his association with Mulder's father. It really was really a great tribute to Night Stalker. I have all nine seasons on DVD, so it you want to know exactly what episode it is, I will look it up.

    I just pulled this from wikipedia. It was something I didn't know about Night Stalker. The mythology of NS included a UFO encounter and government conspiricy:

    Main article: List of Kolchak: The Night Stalker Episodes
    Between the series' short run and the two movies, they managed to tackle most of the major monster myths. Two stories about vampires, one about a werewolf, a mummy and a zombie story make up the classic monster genre. In a related classification, it also included a good old fashioned ghost story, one about witches and one involving a pact with Satan. A story about Jack the Ripper is one of the few based an an actual historical figure, which is given a supernatural explanation. Three more episodes dealt with immortality and aging related murders, involving a mad scientist, a succubus and Helen of Troy/Hecate. Four episodes focused on monsters and spirits based in native folklore (two involving Native American legends, one Hindu and one Creole). Another featured a killer android, which was a popular subject of the 70's. The series even tackled a UFO encounter and an invisible alien, complete with a government conspiracy. Of the more esoteric were episodes about a headless motorcycle rider (the headless horseman myth), an animated knight's suit of armor possessed by a spirit out for revenge, a prehistoric man thawed back to life and a lizard creature protecting its eggs.

    when i was very young i used to scare myself witless watching the night stalker. i loved that show. as i loved the xfiles.
    but i have to disagree with you. i never thought the alien eps of the xfiles were the best.
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  • PaukPauk Posts: 1,084
    I always thought the alien episodes were way too dragged out. Fair enough, the die hard fans love the massive story arcs, but it got to a point in series 6 or 7 where if you hadn't watched the first few series you couldn't follow the alien storylines past the simple "Aliens invade. Government cover up". I remember as a kid always hating the alien stories because I couldn't follow them. Much preferred the stand alone monster of the week episodes.
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    fowls wrote:
    I always thought the alien episodes were way too dragged out. Fair enough, the die hard fans love the massive story arcs, but it got to a point in series 6 or 7 where if you hadn't watched the first few series you couldn't follow the alien storylines past the simple "Aliens invade. Government cover up". I remember as a kid always hating the alien stories because I couldn't follow them. Much preferred the stand alone monster of the week episodes.

    i was a diehard xfan and i could never get into the alien arc. as weird as this might sound, it just seemed too far fetched to me.
    "clyde buckman's final repose" is a person favourite.
    as is "grotesque", "pusher", i can't tell you how many times "the host" made me gag.
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  • PaukPauk Posts: 1,084
    I can't remember episode titles but my favs were:
    -The one with the murdering doll (Me and my friends were quoting that episode for months afterwards!)
    -The one with the inbred hillbillies raping their sister (The intro with the kids playing baseball is the X Files scene I remember best).
    -All the episodes with that guy who could control people's minds.
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  • westsidepiewestsidepie Posts: 627
    fowls wrote:
    I always thought the alien episodes were way too dragged out. Fair enough, the die hard fans love the massive story arcs, but it got to a point in series 6 or 7 where if you hadn't watched the first few series you couldn't follow the alien storylines past the simple "Aliens invade. Government cover up". I remember as a kid always hating the alien stories because I couldn't follow them. Much preferred the stand alone monster of the week episodes.

    I like that big arc. It is easier to follow when you have all the DVDs. You can play those episodes in order and back to back. However, I just don't love the X-files for the alien stories or Gillian Anderson.

    Some of my favorites had nothing to do with aliens. The episode where appliances are telling people to kill other people. The mail worker sees "Kill em all" in his machine. There are too many to list.
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  • westsidepiewestsidepie Posts: 627
    Just a little more on the connection between the X-files and Night Stalker:

    Legacy

    The series has been described as a predecessor to The X-Files (1993-2002). The X-Files creator, Chris Carter, has acknowledged that the show influenced him greatly in his own work. He paid tribute to Kolchak in a number of ways.[3] A character named "Richard Matheson", named for the screenwriter of the pilot films, appeared in several episodes. Carter also wanted McGavin to appear as Kolchak in one or more episodes of The X-Files, but McGavin was unwilling to reprise the character for the show. He did eventually appear in several episodes as Arthur Dales, a retired FBI agent described as the "father of the X-Files".
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  • PearlJamaholicPearlJamaholic Posts: 2,019
    fowls wrote:
    I can't remember episode titles but my favs were:
    -The one with the murdering doll (Me and my friends were quoting that episode for months afterwards!)
    -The one with the inbred hillbillies raping their sister (The intro with the kids playing baseball is the X Files scene I remember best).
    -All the episodes with that guy who could control people's minds.

    the one with the doll was writen by stephen king, and the peacocks, that wasnt the sister, that was their mom..............
  • PaukPauk Posts: 1,084
    the one with the doll was writen by stephen king, and the peacocks, that wasnt the sister, that was their mom..............
    Oh, I knew it was some kind of incest!

    The doll one figures, very Stephen King.
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  • libragirllibragirl Posts: 4,632
    small potatoes is one of my favs...I also like bad blood.
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  • AllieAllie Posts: 2,908
    OMG, it comes out Friday! Who's so excited? I can't wait to see it!
    Gillian was on Leno last night and I think David is going to be on tomorrow night
    Did you all see the commercial when
    (POSSIBLE SPOILER ALERT).....











    ......
    They SMOOCH!!? I hope it's not a fake smooch like in the first one!!! They had photos of them smooching in an article in the Sunday post!
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  • TerryibleTerryible Posts: 462
    I can't wait for this, my favourite TV show of all time.

    I think the UK gets it in a weeks time
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  • libragirllibragirl Posts: 4,632
    Allie wrote:
    OMG, it comes out Friday! Who's so excited? I can't wait to see it!
    Gillian was on Leno last night and I think David is going to be on tomorrow night
    Did you all see the commercial when
    (POSSIBLE SPOILER ALERT).....











    ......
    They SMOOCH!!? I hope it's not a fake smooch like in the first one!!! They had photos of them smooching in an article in the Sunday post!


    I heard something about a major makeout scene or something...I want to try to go this weekend. :)
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  • dunkmandunkman Posts: 19,646
    didnt read all of this... but i saw a clip of the new movie somewhere recently and wondered if it was Billy Connolly in one of the trailers?
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • NothingSoundNothingSound Posts: 198
    Very excited for this. I have some of the seasons on DVD but I'm missing others. I got into the show too late to "get" the overall arc. I think they put out DVD sets of just the alient/government arc episodes.
  • fuckfuck Posts: 4,069
    dunkman wrote:
    didnt read all of this... but i saw a clip of the new movie somewhere recently and wondered if it was Billy Connolly in one of the trailers?
    yeah, that was him.

    My brother has been a huge, die-hard fan of X-Files since like '93, so I'll probably just go with him to watch this. It's a really good show, but I never saw enough episodes I think to really get into it like he did, nor did I see the first movie.
  • RygarRygar Posts: 8,689
    _outlaw wrote:
    yeah, that was him.

    My brother has been a huge, die-hard fan of X-Files since like '93, so I'll probably just go with him to watch this. It's a really good show, but I never saw enough episodes I think to really get into it like he did, nor did I see the first movie.
    I've been trying to get the GF through the series before the movie, but I failed miserably as we've only got midway through season 3....
    Oh well, I'm going to see the flick tomorrow, I think.
  • NothingSoundNothingSound Posts: 198
    Rygar wrote:
    I've been trying to get the GF through the series before the movie, but I failed miserably as we've only got midway through season 3....
    Oh well, I'm going to see the flick tomorrow, I think.

    The show scares the shit out of my wife so I'll either have to wait for DVD or go alone.
  • RygarRygar Posts: 8,689
    The show scares the shit out of my wife so I'll either have to wait for DVD or go alone.
    hahaha, that sucks
    The gf doesn't get freaked out too much until the music for alien appearances change, or there's bugs on the screen and I make her think she's got a bug on her neck.
  • Cree NationsCree Nations Posts: 2,247
    10 years...thats crazy*when you think of it...but man Scully is still as hot as ever.
    Gggggggrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr......rufff......rufff........ooooowwwww

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  • NothingSoundNothingSound Posts: 198
    Rygar wrote:
    hahaha, that sucks
    The gf doesn't get freaked out too much until the music for alien appearances change, or there's bugs on the screen and I make her think she's got a bug on her neck.

    The episode with the demon family who kept getting rid of their non-demon kid is what did her in.
  • RygarRygar Posts: 8,689
    The episode with the demon family who kept getting rid of their non-demon kid is what did her in.
    Noted!

    Haha @ Cree Nations!

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  • mca47mca47 Posts: 13,298
    I can't wait for this movie!!!
  • AllieAllie Posts: 2,908
    10 years...thats crazy*when you think of it...but man Scully is still as hot as ever.
    Gggggggrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr......rufff......rufff........ooooowwwww

    skullllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllyyyyyyyyy!!!!!

    she's pregnant with her 3rd child? Did you see her on Jay Leno? She looks fantastic
    and David doesn't look too bad either! I can't wait for the movie either, woo-hoo!
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  • libragirllibragirl Posts: 4,632
    Allie wrote:
    she's pregnant with her 3rd child? Did you see her on Jay Leno? She looks fantastic
    and David doesn't look too bad either! I can't wait for the movie either, woo-hoo!

    yeah i didn't know that until someone mentioned it...doesn't she have 2 other kids...Im not even sure if they are from the same guy. I remember she was with one of the behind the scenes guy on the show...art director or something.
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