The 2008 Philadelphia Phillies

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  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,183
    So is the torential rain still coming down? Are we going to get a game in?

    I believe there won't be pre-game lineups. It's the middle of the game. Not sure about the national anthem, but it would seem that you wouldn't do that either.

    It would have been interesting if this delay had gone 4 days. Hamels could have gone back out and finished it no problem.

    That would be sweet. It should be moisture free tonight, but fucking cold. The wind chill is going to make it feel like 32 degrees.
  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,183
    Hey, I was just wondering, anyone ever check out phillyblog.com? It's run by vBulletin just like the Pit....Not gonna lie, might start hitting that up.
  • chromiamchromiam Posts: 4,114
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  • Solat13Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    chromiam wrote:

    I think that article answered a more important question than my silly national anthem question. ;)
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,183
    You obviously know who said this right, Chromiam?


    "I wouldn't let him supervise my bowel movements. He has no clue."- unnamed Phillies pitcher on Bud Selig

    You should just put Brett's name in there now.
  • petrocspetrocs Posts: 4,342
    7 hours!
    Shows:
    9/24/96 MD. 9/28/96 Randalls. 8/28-29/98 Camden. 9/8/98 NJ. 9/18/98 MD. 9/1-2/00 Camden. 9/4/00 MD. 4/28/03 Philly. 7/5-6/03 Camden. 9/30/05 AC.
    10/3/05 Philly. 5/27-28/06 Camden. 6/23/06 Pitt. 6/19-20/08 Camden. 6/24/08 MSG. 8/7/08 EV Newark, NJ. 6/11-12/09 EV Philly, PA. 10/27-28-30-31/09 Philly, PA., 5/15/10 Hartford,5/17/10 Boston, 5/18/10 Newark, 5/20-21/10 MSG
  • chromiamchromiam Posts: 4,114
    Solat13 wrote:
    I think that article answered a more important question than my silly national anthem question. ;)

    I totally agree... and can you see it now, the fans (possibly) celebrating and going nuts all while trying to not spill beers.. or better yet by covering each other in beer :D

    jp- yeah that was my guess as well.... especially after the gun article.
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  • Solat13Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,183
    Just read the Angels aren't picking up the option on Garrett Anderson. Anyone think they'll go after him? I could see him being a perfect replacement if Burrell doesn't come back. He's only a year older than Pat and making about the same amount of money, gets about the same stats, and hits for a way better average.
  • chromiamchromiam Posts: 4,114
    Just read the Angels aren't picking up the option on Garrett Anderson. Anyone think they'll go after him? I could see him being a perfect replacement if Burrell doesn't come back. He's only a year older than Pat and making about the same amount of money, gets about the same stats, and hits for a way better average.

    He's a lefty right??? I know the Phils need some righthanded bats in their order especially in the "power" spots of the lineup... so my first thought would be yeah, they'll look but they need some righthanded power to balance that lineup.
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  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,183
    chromiam wrote:
    He's a lefty right??? I know the Phils need some righthanded bats in their order especially in the "power" spots of the lineup... so my first thought would be yeah, they'll look but they need some righthanded power to balance that lineup.

    Yeah, that's why I would take a serious stab at Holliday. That'll be about 7 mil more than you're paying Pat now, and I know how all salaries will be going wayyy up this offseason. But it's definitely worth it with his age, this ballpark, right handed bat.
  • Solat13Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    Just read the Angels aren't picking up the option on Garrett Anderson. Anyone think they'll go after him? I could see him being a perfect replacement if Burrell doesn't come back. He's only a year older than Pat and making about the same amount of money, gets about the same stats, and hits for a way better average.

    Are you sure you read the stats right? Burrell just turned 32 two weeks ago. Anderson is 36. Anderson hasn't hit more than 17 homers since the 2003 season.

    I don't think it would be a good move at all for the Phils. He's a lefty bat who's been below league average in OPS 3 of the last 4 seasons that never walks.
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,183
    Solat13 wrote:
    Are you sure you read the stats right? Burrell just turned 32 two weeks ago. Anderson is 36. Anderson hasn't hit more than 17 homers since the 2003 season.

    I don't think it would be a good move at all for the Phils. He's a lefty bat who's been below league average in OPS 3 of the last 4 seasons that never walks.

    Woops. I was reading the article on ESPN and got ahead of myself - they were referring to the 32 year old Guerrero.
  • petrocspetrocs Posts: 4,342
    my offseason consists of signing Victorino, Werth, Hamels and Howard to long term deals. trading for Holliday and maybe picking up a pitcher for the rotation. and MAN I'd like to get a stud 3rd baseman
    Shows:
    9/24/96 MD. 9/28/96 Randalls. 8/28-29/98 Camden. 9/8/98 NJ. 9/18/98 MD. 9/1-2/00 Camden. 9/4/00 MD. 4/28/03 Philly. 7/5-6/03 Camden. 9/30/05 AC.
    10/3/05 Philly. 5/27-28/06 Camden. 6/23/06 Pitt. 6/19-20/08 Camden. 6/24/08 MSG. 8/7/08 EV Newark, NJ. 6/11-12/09 EV Philly, PA. 10/27-28-30-31/09 Philly, PA., 5/15/10 Hartford,5/17/10 Boston, 5/18/10 Newark, 5/20-21/10 MSG
  • Phantom PainPhantom Pain Posts: 9,876
    petrocs wrote:
    my offseason consists of signing Victorino, Werth, Hamels and Howard to long term deals. trading for Holliday and maybe picking up a pitcher for the rotation. and MAN I'd like to get a stud 3rd baseman

    To be honest.......IF we win this thing I don't give a rats ass about next year !!!!!

    LET'S GO PHIL-LIES !!!!!
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  • Solat13Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    petrocs wrote:
    my offseason consists of signing Victorino, Werth, Hamels and Howard to long term deals. trading for Holliday and maybe picking up a pitcher for the rotation. and MAN I'd like to get a stud 3rd baseman

    Phils up for arbitration after this season: (and the year they are eligible for free agency)

    Joe Blanton rhp FA 2010
    Eric Bruntlett inf FA 2010
    Craig Condrey rhp FA 2011
    Greg Dobbs 3b FA 2011
    Chad Durbin rhp FA 2010
    Cole Hamels lhp FA 2011
    Ryan Howard 1b FA 2010
    Ryan Madson rhp FA 2009
    Shane Victorino of FA 2010
    Jayson Werth of FA 2009
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • petrocspetrocs Posts: 4,342
    Oh...and Madson, Dobbs, and Ruiz
    Shows:
    9/24/96 MD. 9/28/96 Randalls. 8/28-29/98 Camden. 9/8/98 NJ. 9/18/98 MD. 9/1-2/00 Camden. 9/4/00 MD. 4/28/03 Philly. 7/5-6/03 Camden. 9/30/05 AC.
    10/3/05 Philly. 5/27-28/06 Camden. 6/23/06 Pitt. 6/19-20/08 Camden. 6/24/08 MSG. 8/7/08 EV Newark, NJ. 6/11-12/09 EV Philly, PA. 10/27-28-30-31/09 Philly, PA., 5/15/10 Hartford,5/17/10 Boston, 5/18/10 Newark, 5/20-21/10 MSG
  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,183
    To be honest.......IF we win this thing I don't give a rats ass about next year !!!!!

    LET'S GO PHIL-LIES !!!!!

    Preach!
  • petrocspetrocs Posts: 4,342
    2009 Free Agents
    The following players have contracts expiring or should have the six years of service necessary to become free agents after the 2008 season.
    * - player whose contract includes 2009 option

    Third Basemen
    Casey Blake LAD
    Hank Blalock * TEX
    Joe Crede CWS
    Morgan Ensberg NYY
    Chipper Jones * ATL
    Corey Koskie MIL
    Greg Norton ATL

    Outfielders
    Bobby Abreu NYY
    Moises Alou NYM
    Garret Anderson * LAA
    Rocco Baldelli TB
    Willie Bloomquist SEA
    Emil Brown OAK
    Pat Burrell PHI
    Endy Chavez NYM
    Carl Crawford * TB
    Adam Dunn ARZ
    Jim Edmonds CHC
    Cliff Floyd TB
    Brian Giles * SD
    Ken Griffey Jr. * CWS
    Raul Ibanez SEA
    Jacque Jones FLA
    Mark Kotsay ATL
    Rob Mackowiak WAS
    Kevin Mench TOR
    Jason Michaels * CLE
    Craig Monroe MIN
    Jay Payton BAL
    Scott Podsednik COL
    Manny Ramirez LAD
    Juan Rivera LAA
    Rondell White MIN

    Starting Pitchers
    Kris Benson PHI
    A.J. Burnett TOR (may opt out)
    Paul Byrd BOS
    Ryan Dempster CHC
    Jon Garland LAA
    Tom Glavine ATL
    Mike Hampton * ATL
    Rich Harden * CHC
    Orlando Hernandez NYM
    Jason Jennings TEX
    Randy Johnson ARZ
    Esteban Loaiza CHW
    Braden Looper STL
    Derek Lowe LAD
    Pedro Martinez NYM
    Mike Mussina NYY
    Jamie Moyer PHI
    Mark Mulder * STL
    Carl Pavano NYY
    Brad Penny * LAD
    Odalis Perez WAS
    Oliver Perez NYM
    Andy Pettitte NYY
    Mark Prior SD
    Horacio Ramirez CHW
    C.C. Sabathia MIL
    Ben Sheets MIL
    John Smoltz * ATL
    Julian Tavarez ATL
    Steve Trachsel BAL
    Brett Tomko SD
    Claudio Vargas MIL
    Randy Wolf HOU

    Relief Pitchers
    Jeremy Affeldt CIN
    Tony Armas Jr. PIT
    Luis Ayala WAS
    Joe Beimel LAD
    Joe Borowski CLE
    Juan Cruz ARZ
    Brendan Donnelly BOS
    Alan Embree * OAK
    Scott Eyre CHC
    Kyle Farnsworth DET
    Casey Fossum DET
    Brian Fuentes COL
    Aaron Fultz CLE
    Tom Gordon * PHI
    LaTroy Hawkins HOU
    Mark Hendrickson LAD
    Trevor Hoffman SD
    Bobby Howry CHC
    Jason Isringhausen STL
    Steve Kline SF
    Brandon Lyon ARZ
    Damaso Marte * NYY
    Tom Martin COL
    Julio Mateo PHI
    Guillermo Mota MIL
    Will Ohman CHC
    Darren Oliver LAA
    John Parrish SEA
    Chris Reitsma SEA
    Dennys Reyes MIN
    Juan Rincon CLE
    Francisco Rodriguez LAA
    Brian Shouse MIL
    Rafael Soriano ATL
    Jorge Sosa NYM
    Mike Stanton * CIN
    Salomon Torres * MIL
    Derrick Turnbow MIL
    Oscar Villarreal ATL
    David Weathers CIN
    Dave Williams NYM
    Matt Wise NYM

    Kerry Wood CHC
    Shows:
    9/24/96 MD. 9/28/96 Randalls. 8/28-29/98 Camden. 9/8/98 NJ. 9/18/98 MD. 9/1-2/00 Camden. 9/4/00 MD. 4/28/03 Philly. 7/5-6/03 Camden. 9/30/05 AC.
    10/3/05 Philly. 5/27-28/06 Camden. 6/23/06 Pitt. 6/19-20/08 Camden. 6/24/08 MSG. 8/7/08 EV Newark, NJ. 6/11-12/09 EV Philly, PA. 10/27-28-30-31/09 Philly, PA., 5/15/10 Hartford,5/17/10 Boston, 5/18/10 Newark, 5/20-21/10 MSG
  • petrocspetrocs Posts: 4,342
    To be honest.......IF we win this thing I don't give a rats ass about next year !!!!!

    LET'S GO PHIL-LIES !!!!!

    I care! cause I want a DYNASTY!
    Shows:
    9/24/96 MD. 9/28/96 Randalls. 8/28-29/98 Camden. 9/8/98 NJ. 9/18/98 MD. 9/1-2/00 Camden. 9/4/00 MD. 4/28/03 Philly. 7/5-6/03 Camden. 9/30/05 AC.
    10/3/05 Philly. 5/27-28/06 Camden. 6/23/06 Pitt. 6/19-20/08 Camden. 6/24/08 MSG. 8/7/08 EV Newark, NJ. 6/11-12/09 EV Philly, PA. 10/27-28-30-31/09 Philly, PA., 5/15/10 Hartford,5/17/10 Boston, 5/18/10 Newark, 5/20-21/10 MSG
  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,183
    Oh, and I really don't care about the lefty situation when it comes to Crawford. That dude's the bee's knees.
  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,183
    petrocs wrote:
    I care! cause I want a DYNASTY!

    Don't worry, dude. This team's gonna be good with it's core for at least the next 4-5 years. I'm just saying, and fuck Bill Simmons book, but I'll be able to die in peace if they win!
  • Phantom PainPhantom Pain Posts: 9,876
    petrocs wrote:
    I care! cause I want a DYNASTY!

    HAHA !!! You greedy SOB !!!!

    The young core of the team isn't going anywhere

    Moyer would retire I assume if he gets his ring

    Big decisions will be made once the numbers shake out in Arbitration
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  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,183
    Don't forget Thome comes off the books!!
  • Solat13Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    HAHA !!! You greedy SOB !!!!

    The young core of the team isn't going anywhere

    Moyer would retire I assume if he gets his ring

    Big decisions will be made once the numbers shake out in Arbitration

    True, counting raises from arbitration and contractual obligations (off the top of my head Lidge, Utley, Myers, Feliz, Jenkins, Eaton and a few others all have raises next season), the Phils payroll will be at the same level or a little higher even with Burrell, Moyer, and Gordon being free agents without signing anyone.
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,183
    Also heard, Montgomery say that even after raises for the current players that their going to increase the overall payroll to about 135 mil.
  • Solat13Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    Also heard, Montgomery say that even after raises for the current players that their going to increase the overall payroll to about 135 mil.

    Wow, that's a jump of over 35 mil in payroll in one year and would put the Phils 4th in total payroll ahead of the Red Sox.
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,183
    Solat13 wrote:
    Wow, that's a jump of over 35 mil in payroll in one year and would put the Phils 4th in total payroll ahead of the Red Sox.

    Yeah I read somewhere that they(Monty) said payroll would be around 133. All in all between the current roster and other players they're paying, the roster this year I think came to about 115. I'm talking players like Eaton, Thome, etc.
  • Phantom PainPhantom Pain Posts: 9,876
    Yeah I read somewhere that they(Monty) said payroll would be around 133.

    Was this before or after your 30pk ?

    ;)
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  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,183
    Was this before or after your 30pk ?

    ;)

    Fine. That's just fine.
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