He took the hit on that and protected Rolen. But Rolen had long scheduled that as one of his off days and neither of them had checked the promotions calendar. Much like when Manny had a scheduled off day in 06 with the Red Sox OF hurt, he let the player keep his off day and dealt with the consequences.
In the Phillies case, Francona got booed for months. In the Red Sox case, Francona played Youklis in left while Manny sat smiling in the dugout.
The thing is he wouldn't let his player take the hit and instead took the bullet himself.
That's a true manager for ya.
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*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
you can say "in general" all you want ... but this is a bold statement with no fact behind it.
you want to talk about Boston of the past ... I'll give you there are certainly some racists moments in Boston sports (and non sports) history everyone would love to forget (most notably Jackie Robinson's tryout where someone yelled from the stands "Get that ni**er off the field!" ... supposedly one of Tom Yawkey's crew, maybe even Yawkey himself)
but ... red sox fans? outwardly racist & sexist? go on ... let's hear it ... how do you justify that statement?
Dude I've been following Red Sox Nation around for my dissertation...I have a decent amount of video/photos/field notes which shows the fans of this team as being sexist (pink hat fans as a deragatory term), homophobic ('queer' and 'fag' being a huge part of New England humor), and yes racist (from the orientalism of wearing Dice-K bandanas, to hearing lots of people laughing at this guy outside of the Cask 'N Flagon saying "herro, herro" while mocking a Japanese TV crew, to the media and fans infantilizing Manny Ramirez ("Manny being Manny") even though by player accounts from Jim Thome to David Ortiz, Manny Ramirez is one of the most intelligent, hard working players there is and he's making fun of RSN every time he messes around. On top of that I have these articles from Torri Hunter (http://umpbump.com/press/tori-hunter-weighs-in-on-honoring-jackie-robinson/), Gary Matthews Jr. (http://www.rootzoo.com/threads/view/24011/)*, Michael Wilbon being inteveiewed by Bill Simmons, interviews with noted proffesors around the northeast, interviews with Shaughnessy, Cafardo, and others actually in the organization, the people who did Sox appeal, and they all say the same thing ... it's not gone. The racism is still there, and they can't do much about it.
What do I mean by that:
It's in the way that Robinson's #42 is emblanized in right field, despite the fact that he wasn't allowed to play for the Sox, it's in the way that into the late 80's the team was referred to as "the plantation", it's in the way that following the '86 World Series there was a race riot on UMass-Amherst's campus, or the way Sox fans called Jim Rice "Uncle Ben", or chanted "you're not Irish" to Troy O'Leary, the way Sox fans cheer louder for "great white hopes" like Jason Varitek, Dustin Padroia, and Kevin Youkilis, the former and latter that both sucked last year but Manny Ramirez who absolutely carried the team with David Ortiz got the blame for 'tanking the season' after he took September off, it's in the way that you could get little Japanese drums with Dice-K (that's not how you pronounce his last name by the way that was a marketing scheme) printed on it, its in the way that in one Boston Globe commentary this year a writer said that he was going into Fenway when a little kid road by on a bike (he was black), and someone entering the game with him said "go steal a radio" and the crowd around him laughed. I've got more if you want it, I'm just starting to write this thing.
*that's not the full article but it has some of the quotes the Boston media conveniently cut out.
i would love to get deeper into this at the moment but i've got a meeting to get to
but and Papelbon had 4 saves according to the stats i saw and
granted there were SEBERAL great MVP canidates (as i said in this thread LAST NIGHT)
what's with all the HATE on RED SOX NATION
jealous much
I don't hate the Sawx per se, my fiancee is from Scituate, MA, and I was happy for her and her family, it's the New England mentality that bothers me. As you can see above I'm pretty sure I know a bit about what I'm talking about.
I don't hate the Sawx per se, my fiancee is from Scituate, MA, and I was happy for her and her family, it's the New England mentality that bothers me. As you can see above I'm pretty sure I know a bit about what I'm talking about.
I didn't know New England had a "mentality." Where have I been for the past 22 years?
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I didn't know New England had a "mentality." Where have I been for the past 22 years?
Shaughnessy had an article breaking down the general demographic of each sports teams fans last year in July. Generally Red Sox fans, at least that go to games, are white (95% whatever white means), college educated (67%), and middle-upper class. Thus there is a general level of (un)spoken white privilege that goes on in the New England area, that doesn't often get talked about, and my dissertation is an attempt to generate a discussion about that.
Shaughnessy had an article breaking down the general demographic of each sports teams fans last year in July. Generally Red Sox fans, at least that go to games, are white (95% whatever white means), college educated (67%), and middle-upper class. Thus there is a general level of (un)spoken white privilege that goes on in the New England area, that doesn't often get talked about, and my dissertation is an attempt to generate a discussion about that.
Well, you'd have to be to go to their games with the prices that they charge. Fenway doesn't cater to the working-class family anymore.
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you got it...it comes down to economics and how it works with race/class/gender and who can afford to go to games, and then the fans "performance" while at the stadium from "pizza tossing", "beer dousing", to fighting at Yankee Stadium (3000 got tossed in the game I was at in May), and so on which then speaks to the level of privilege those people have in attending Sox games...those people tend to be white, doing and saying things that they can get away with.
Same thing you're doing to Coco Crisp with Jacoby Ellsbury...the Sawx can do that b/c they have the loot.
It's a little easier to dump Crisp's 2 year contract at 10 million per year than it is Lugo's contract at 3 years for 27 million. Plus the Sox are still paying half of Renteria's contract to the braves so there is no way they do another salary dump with Lugo.
It's a little easier to dump Crisp's 2 year contract at 10 million per year than it is Lugo's contract at 3 years for 27 million. Plus the Sox are still paying half of Renteria's contract to the braves so there is no way they do another salary dump with Lugo.
fair enough...I was just tossing out a suggestion that would appease the people who wanted to keep Lowell over picking up A-Rod. I'm just saying that if you can get the best player in baseball then get him, Ortiz and/or Manny as protection in the playoffs is a whole lot more scary than a de-roided Giambi, Posada, or Abreu.
Well, you'd have to be to go to their games with the prices that they charge. Fenway doesn't cater to the working-class family anymore.
True, prices are high, and I think that is part of the reason why the Sox have such a large following around the country. It's cheaper to see them in other cities around the country. I know they filled half of the stadium in Philly on their last visit.
True, prices are high, and I think that is part of the reason why the Sox have such a large following around the country. It's cheaper to see them in other cities around the country. I know they filled half of the stadium in Philly on their last visit.
Again part of a brilliant marketing scheme. Price people out of Fenway, then buy tickets to other team's stadiums and sell trips called DestiNations, or write articles in the Globe outlining how it's cheaper to go to Baltimore for a weekend series than stay at home and do the same. Don't get me wrong, as frustrating as doing this research has been, I have to tip my cap to their creativity within their marketing and sales.
fair enough...I was just tossing out a suggestion that would appease the people who wanted to keep Lowell over picking up A-Rod. I'm just saying that if you can get the best player in baseball then get him, Ortiz and/or Manny as protection in the playoffs is a whole lot more scary than a de-roided Giambi, Posada, or Abreu.
I agree with you that the Sox order is better than the Yanks, but the Sox are not going after A-Rod. They don't like to commit money to players over 35 for more than a year or two. The Manny contract he signed in 2000 would never have happened under the current regime.
Plus, if they dump the deadweight and resign Lowell and maybe Timlin and Wakefield, their payyroll drops from 143 milllion to 110-115 million and puts them in line with the likes of the Mets, White Sox, Angels, Dodgers and Mariners in having similar payrolls.
you got it...it comes down to economics and how it works with race/class/gender and who can afford to go to games, and then the fans "performance" while at the stadium from "pizza tossing", "beer dousing", to fighting at Yankee Stadium (3000 got tossed in the game I was at in May), and so on which then speaks to the level of privilege those people have in attending Sox games...those people tend to be white, doing and saying things that they can get away with.
3,000 got tossed from a game? that's a riot, not a fight .... links to this?
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True, prices are high, and I think that is part of the reason why the Sox have such a large following around the country. It's cheaper to see them in other cities around the country. I know they filled half of the stadium in Philly on their last visit.
At Camden Yards In B-More it was at least 85% Red Sox fans back in August I couldn't believe it. In my box section of 200 less than 10 were O's fans and my 11 year daughter was one of them.
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*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
3,000 got tossed from a game? that's a riot, not a fight .... links to this?
It was insane...I was there, and my fiancees mom told me over the phone the number of people booted. She is a devoted Sox fan and either heard it on NESN, WEEI, or in the Globe or Local paper, I'll have to ask her. I have asked her several times about the number because it seems high, and she keeps to her assertion that it was 3k.
While it may have been overestimated that 5% of the crowd got the boot, as I said I was there and I can say that it got out of hand early the Yanks won like 9-2/10-3 or something, and there was literally a moment during the game when Abreu turned around and just started watching the action in the RF upper-deck (which is where I was sitting)...you aren't allowed to bring in cameras to Yankee stadium otherwise I'd have a video link for you. People were getting carted out in 5s and 6s instead of 1s and 2s.
I agree with you that the Sox order is better than the Yanks, but the Sox are not going after A-Rod. They don't like to commit money to players over 35 for more than a year or two. The Manny contract he signed in 2000 would never have happened under the current regime.
Plus, if they dump the deadweight and resign Lowell and maybe Timlin and Wakefield, their payyroll drops from 143 milllion to 110-115 million and puts them in line with the likes of the Mets, White Sox, Angels, Dodgers and Mariners in having similar payrolls.
Yeah but there were already willing to do this before when they could unload Manny's contract...how much were they getting taken off of A-Rods? If you can get the best player I don't know why you wouldn't...I understand cutting payroll, but A-Rod is the best player.
At Camden Yards In B-More it was at least 85% Red Sox fans back in August I couldn't believe it. In my box section of 200 less than 10 were O's fans and my 11 year daughter was one of them.
Peace
I have about a 15 minute video during the Beckett game this August/September (can't remember but he threw like 8 2/3 but ran out of gas at the end), and I was in a section of the upper deck with one passed out O's fan, and literally the rest were Sox fans who posed with him for photos, drew on him, and generally humiliated him until the game was over and he woke up.
Yeah but there were already willing to do this before when they could unload Manny's contract...how much were they getting taken off of A-Rods? If you can get the best player I don't know why you wouldn't...I understand cutting payroll, but A-Rod is the best player.
True, but that was 4 seasons ago and he was 28 and not 32, which fits the Sox mantra of going after players in their late 20's.
Though you have to wonder how things would have worked out for all the teams involved if the A-Rod to Boston trade happened in 04.
Manny would be in Texas.
Nomar with the White Sox - would they have won in 2005?
A-Rod and Magglio Ordonez with the Red Sox.
But all in all, they won 2 world series without making the trade so I'm pretty happy fo the results.
I have about a 15 minute video during the Beckett game this August/September (can't remember but he threw like 8 2/3 but ran out of gas at the end), and I was in a section of the upper deck with one passed out O's fan, and literally the rest were Sox fans who posed with him for photos, drew on him, and generally humiliated him until the game was over and he woke up.
We were there when DICE K pitched or didn't pitch the O's smashed him 11-12 runs. The sox fans were really cool in my section overlooking the sox bullpen. They had tick Beantwn accents I remember from when I lived up there in Boston. However that really sucks that they did that to the O fan, help that person not berate them.
Peace
*We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
We were there when DICE K pitched or didn't pitch the O's smashed him 11-12 runs. The sox fans were really cool in my section overlooking the sox bullpen. They had tick Beantwn accents I remember from when I lived up there in Boston. However that really sucks that they did that to the O fan, help that person not berate them.
Peace
yeah...it was difficult for me to know what to do because i was supposed to be doing research, but had to juggle that with someone's well-being. Luckily one of the people drawing on him checked to see that he was breathing, then continued to draw.
I was also there for Daisuke (I went to every O's game), that was painful. It may have been that night or the night before when they really got on Drew in Eutaw Street to the point that I was actually worried something would get thrown on him. Now he hits a Grand Slam and he's a hero.
True, but that was 4 seasons ago and he was 28 and not 32, which fits the Sox mantra of going after players in their late 20's.
Though you have to wonder how things would have worked out for all the teams involved if the A-Rod to Boston trade happened in 04.
Manny would be in Texas.
Nomar with the White Sox - would they have won in 2005?
A-Rod and Magglio Ordonez with the Red Sox.
But all in all, they won 2 world series without making the trade so I'm pretty happy fo the results.
Plus you look poised for at least 1-2 more, injuries depending of course. Although if the Brewers get some pitching in the offseason, or the Mets decide not to choke down the stretch they both have AL type offenses which could actually give AL teams trouble in the World Series.
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That's a true manager for ya.
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
- Mr. Edward Vedder 7/11/03
So yeah I thought he should have won it.
"I don't believe in damn curses. Wake up the damn Bambino and have me face him. Maybe I'll drill him in the ass." --- Pedro Martinez
What do I mean by that:
It's in the way that Robinson's #42 is emblanized in right field, despite the fact that he wasn't allowed to play for the Sox, it's in the way that into the late 80's the team was referred to as "the plantation", it's in the way that following the '86 World Series there was a race riot on UMass-Amherst's campus, or the way Sox fans called Jim Rice "Uncle Ben", or chanted "you're not Irish" to Troy O'Leary, the way Sox fans cheer louder for "great white hopes" like Jason Varitek, Dustin Padroia, and Kevin Youkilis, the former and latter that both sucked last year but Manny Ramirez who absolutely carried the team with David Ortiz got the blame for 'tanking the season' after he took September off, it's in the way that you could get little Japanese drums with Dice-K (that's not how you pronounce his last name by the way that was a marketing scheme) printed on it, its in the way that in one Boston Globe commentary this year a writer said that he was going into Fenway when a little kid road by on a bike (he was black), and someone entering the game with him said "go steal a radio" and the crowd around him laughed. I've got more if you want it, I'm just starting to write this thing.
*that's not the full article but it has some of the quotes the Boston media conveniently cut out.
I didn't know New England had a "mentality." Where have I been for the past 22 years?
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2006 Boston I
2008 Bonnaroo, Hartford, Mansfield I
2010 Hartford
2013 Worcester I, Worcester II, Hartford
2016 Bonnaroo, Fenway I, Fenway II
2018 Fenway I, Fenway II
2021 Sea.Hear.Now
2022 Camden
2024 MSG I, Fenway I, Fenway II
Well, you'd have to be to go to their games with the prices that they charge. Fenway doesn't cater to the working-class family anymore.
2004 Boston I
2006 Boston I
2008 Bonnaroo, Hartford, Mansfield I
2010 Hartford
2013 Worcester I, Worcester II, Hartford
2016 Bonnaroo, Fenway I, Fenway II
2018 Fenway I, Fenway II
2021 Sea.Hear.Now
2022 Camden
2024 MSG I, Fenway I, Fenway II
It's a little easier to dump Crisp's 2 year contract at 10 million per year than it is Lugo's contract at 3 years for 27 million. Plus the Sox are still paying half of Renteria's contract to the braves so there is no way they do another salary dump with Lugo.
- 8/28/98
- 9/2/00
- 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
- 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
- 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
- 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
- 8/2/07, 8/5/07
- 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
- 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
- 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
- 9/11/11, 9/12/11
- 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
True, prices are high, and I think that is part of the reason why the Sox have such a large following around the country. It's cheaper to see them in other cities around the country. I know they filled half of the stadium in Philly on their last visit.
- 8/28/98
- 9/2/00
- 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
- 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
- 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
- 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
- 8/2/07, 8/5/07
- 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
- 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
- 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
- 9/11/11, 9/12/11
- 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
I agree with you that the Sox order is better than the Yanks, but the Sox are not going after A-Rod. They don't like to commit money to players over 35 for more than a year or two. The Manny contract he signed in 2000 would never have happened under the current regime.
Plus, if they dump the deadweight and resign Lowell and maybe Timlin and Wakefield, their payyroll drops from 143 milllion to 110-115 million and puts them in line with the likes of the Mets, White Sox, Angels, Dodgers and Mariners in having similar payrolls.
- 8/28/98
- 9/2/00
- 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
- 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
- 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
- 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
- 8/2/07, 8/5/07
- 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
- 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
- 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
- 9/11/11, 9/12/11
- 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
3,000 got tossed from a game? that's a riot, not a fight .... links to this?
"I don't believe in damn curses. Wake up the damn Bambino and have me face him. Maybe I'll drill him in the ass." --- Pedro Martinez
At Camden Yards In B-More it was at least 85% Red Sox fans back in August I couldn't believe it. In my box section of 200 less than 10 were O's fans and my 11 year daughter was one of them.
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
While it may have been overestimated that 5% of the crowd got the boot, as I said I was there and I can say that it got out of hand early the Yanks won like 9-2/10-3 or something, and there was literally a moment during the game when Abreu turned around and just started watching the action in the RF upper-deck (which is where I was sitting)...you aren't allowed to bring in cameras to Yankee stadium otherwise I'd have a video link for you. People were getting carted out in 5s and 6s instead of 1s and 2s.
ha..ha....Yeah my fiance's 4 month old nephew is already a redsox fan. His mom sent me a pic of him wearing a redsox onsie
True, but that was 4 seasons ago and he was 28 and not 32, which fits the Sox mantra of going after players in their late 20's.
Though you have to wonder how things would have worked out for all the teams involved if the A-Rod to Boston trade happened in 04.
Manny would be in Texas.
Nomar with the White Sox - would they have won in 2005?
A-Rod and Magglio Ordonez with the Red Sox.
But all in all, they won 2 world series without making the trade so I'm pretty happy fo the results.
- 8/28/98
- 9/2/00
- 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
- 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
- 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
- 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
- 8/2/07, 8/5/07
- 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
- 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
- 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
- 9/11/11, 9/12/11
- 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
We were there when DICE K pitched or didn't pitch the O's smashed him 11-12 runs. The sox fans were really cool in my section overlooking the sox bullpen. They had tick Beantwn accents I remember from when I lived up there in Boston. However that really sucks that they did that to the O fan, help that person not berate them.
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
dreamer in my dream
we got the guns
i love you,but im..............callin out.........callin out
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I was also there for Daisuke (I went to every O's game), that was painful. It may have been that night or the night before when they really got on Drew in Eutaw Street to the point that I was actually worried something would get thrown on him. Now he hits a Grand Slam and he's a hero.