UFC 88: Chuck Liddell Vs. Rashad Evans / Rich Franklin Vs. Matt Hamill

civ_eng_girl

leafs4ever wrote:

that's amazing, i'm sure he was a cool guy but i need to hear the story. I'm still trying to decide if i should go see him and cheech or vfest on the 6th.

vfest! Wintersleep and Foo Fighters on the same day? This cannot be missed....



mookie... awesome Tommy Chong story. i love that i can picture exactly where you were standing and I'm glad you got your NY ticket sorted out too!! :D

mookie blaylock 10

sounds like we may find out on tuesday about randy coming back. a couture vs. lesnar match would do huge PPV sales!

Couture vs. Lesnar Possible for UFC 91 Nov. 15
by Sam Caplan
August 30, 2008
thefightnetwork.com


Various online reports in recent days have surfaced claiming that disgruntled UFC heavyweight champion Randy Couture has been involved in negotiations with Zuffa about a possible return to the promotion.

Adding additional fuel to those reports is Michael Rome of BloodyElbow.com, who reported Friday that he had confirmed negotiations are indeed taking place between Couture and the UFC. And as first mentioned by FiveOuncesOfPain.com on Thursday, Rome also adds that Couture’s first fight back with the company could take place at UFC 91 on November 15 in Portland, Oregon against Brock Lesnar. It is unclear whether the Couture vs. Lesnar fight would have a title at stake.

According to Rome, the deal currently on the table would not be a settlement that would bring Couture back under the terms of his old deal, but an entirely new deal that would offer an increase in compensation over his old agreement.

Five Ounces of Pain was first informed of the possibility of a Couture return earlier this week but was unable to report the story with complete confidence. However, it is obvious at this point that Couture’s return is more than just a rumor and at some point soon it could become a reality.

In addition to Bloody Elbow, MMAjunkie.com was the first to report earlier this week about the possibility of a Couture return. And after Bloody Elbow published its report last night, Dave Meltzer of the Wrestling Observer issued a report of his own as well.

According Meltzer’s report, the terms of Couture’s new deal would be for three fights. After re-debuting vs. Lesnar, future opponents discussed include current UFC interim heavyweight champion Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira, former UFC light heavyweight champion Chuck Liddell, and even currentWAMMA heavyweight champion Fedor Emelianenko.

Expectations about a possible Fedor vs. Couture bout under the UFC banner should be tempered, as Meltzer also stated in his report that many of the past issues that have prevented Fedor from signing with the UFC still exist.

While a deal making a Couture return to the UFC possible is still not yet official, Ariel Helwani of MMARated.com is reporting that the deal could be finalized as early as this Tuesday. Helwani is also reporting that the UFC has received a formal proposal from M-1 to co-promote the much-anticipated Fedor vs. Couture fight as the second fight in Couture’s new proposed UFC contract.

http://www.thefightnetwork.com/news/mma/1231/couture_vs_lesnar_possible_for_ufc_91_nov_15

leafs4ever

mookie blaylock 10 wrote:

well i had a little wake and bake , and had to go meet up after that with a guy who was going to sell me a neil young ticket for the show here in november. it sold out before i could afford to get a ticket! so i'm sitting by the gate at the public gardens where we said we'd meet, and tommy chong walks by with his wife (girlfriend?). he's wearing a digital camera around his neck and they're both looking at a map, trying to figure out what direction they were going in. i went over and said hello and asked if they needed a hand and they said that they were trying to find the downtown area by the waterfront. so i showed them where to go and they said thanks, and i went back to wait for the guy with the ticket. so it turns out it was a fortunate thing to miss out on the original sale! haha

yeah, we'll have to wait and see on randy, eh? i really didn't think he'd come back (to the UFC anyway), but there seems to be a lot of speculation out and about...it's too bad mir is already slated to fight big nog. randy vs. big nog is one i'd definitely like to see, probably more than randy vs. fedor...for me personally. i may be the only one. :)

great story mookie
That's one guy i always wished i would meet

Congrats on the NY tickets aswell!!!

leafs4ever

civ_eng_girl wrote:

vfest! Wintersleep and Foo Fighters on the same day? This cannot be missed....

ya i know, there are like 12 bands i want to see on the saturday, unfortunatly alot of the set times overlap :(
Sunday is ok but i don't think is nearly as good as saturday and the paul weller and moby set-times completely coincide which sucks.

leafs4ever

mookie blaylock 10 wrote:

sounds like we may find out on tuesday about randy coming back. a couture vs. lesnar match would do huge PPV sales!

Couture vs. Lesnar Possible for UFC 91 Nov. 15
by Sam Caplan
August 30, 2008
thefightnetwork.com


Various online reports in recent days have surfaced claiming that disgruntled UFC heavyweight champion Randy Couture has been involved in negotiations with Zuffa about a possible return to the promotion.

Adding additional fuel to those reports is Michael Rome of BloodyElbow.com, who reported Friday that he had confirmed negotiations are indeed taking place between Couture and the UFC. And as first mentioned by FiveOuncesOfPain.com on Thursday, Rome also adds that Couture’s first fight back with the company could take place at UFC 91 on November 15 in Portland, Oregon against Brock Lesnar. It is unclear whether the Couture vs. Lesnar fight would have a title at stake.

According to Rome, the deal currently on the table would not be a settlement that would bring Couture back under the terms of his old deal, but an entirely new deal that would offer an increase in compensation over his old agreement.

Five Ounces of Pain was first informed of the possibility of a Couture return earlier this week but was unable to report the story with complete confidence. However, it is obvious at this point that Couture’s return is more than just a rumor and at some point soon it could become a reality.

In addition to Bloody Elbow, MMAjunkie.com was the first to report earlier this week about the possibility of a Couture return. And after Bloody Elbow published its report last night, Dave Meltzer of the Wrestling Observer issued a report of his own as well.

According Meltzer’s report, the terms of Couture’s new deal would be for three fights. After re-debuting vs. Lesnar, future opponents discussed include current UFC interim heavyweight champion Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira, former UFC light heavyweight champion Chuck Liddell, and even currentWAMMA heavyweight champion Fedor Emelianenko.

Expectations about a possible Fedor vs. Couture bout under the UFC banner should be tempered, as Meltzer also stated in his report that many of the past issues that have prevented Fedor from signing with the UFC still exist.

While a deal making a Couture return to the UFC possible is still not yet official, Ariel Helwani of MMARated.com is reporting that the deal could be finalized as early as this Tuesday. Helwani is also reporting that the UFC has received a formal proposal from M-1 to co-promote the much-anticipated Fedor vs. Couture fight as the second fight in Couture’s new proposed UFC contract.

http://www.thefightnetwork.com/news/mma/1231/couture_vs_lesnar_possible_for_ufc_91_nov_15

umm.... lesnar by decision lol

TheDecline13

this would be awesome if randy came back. i think Brock would win if he continued to work on his stand up. But i would be routing for Randy all the way. You can not count that man out.
Go Randy!

mookie blaylock 10

civ_eng_girl wrote:

vfest! Wintersleep and Foo Fighters on the same day? This cannot be missed....



mookie... awesome Tommy Chong story. i love that i can picture exactly where you were standing and I'm glad you got your NY ticket sorted out too!!

it was funny that if the neil ticket had gone off smothly in the beginning, i wouldn't have met tommy, so it all worked out better! tommy took a picture of the gates, too.

now i can't wait for neil!!!

mookie blaylock 10

leafs4ever wrote:

great story mookie
That's one guy i always wished i would meet

Congrats on the NY tickets aswell!!!

thanks, leafs. good luck on your decision!

leafs4ever

looks like the randy deal is done

UFC will make Couture's return official at Noon PT

By Steve Cofield

After 11 months of fighting in the courts it looks like the UFC and Randy Couture have buried the hatchet. The promotion is holding a press conference on Tuesday at Noon PT to announce a new deal with the heavyweight champion.

Couture is expected to face Brock Lesnar at UFC 91 in Portland in what could be the biggest pay-per-view show in the UFC's history. There is also talk now that with a win over Lesnar, Couture could face Fedor Emelianenko in 2009, under the UFC banner.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/blog/mma_experts/post/UFC-will-make-Couture-s-return-official-at-Noon-?urn=mma,104793

guess we'll have to wait till tomorrow but i hope this is all true

mookie blaylock 10

leafs4ever wrote:

looks like the randy deal is done

UFC will make Couture's return official at Noon PT

By Steve Cofield

After 11 months of fighting in the courts it looks like the UFC and Randy Couture have buried the hatchet. The promotion is holding a press conference on Tuesday at Noon PT to announce a new deal with the heavyweight champion.

Couture is expected to face Brock Lesnar at UFC 91 in Portland in what could be the biggest pay-per-view show in the UFC's history. There is also talk now that with a win over Lesnar, Couture could face Fedor Emelianenko in 2009, under the UFC banner.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/blog/mma_experts/post/UFC-will-make-Couture-s-return-official-at-Noon-?urn=mma,104793

guess we'll have to wait till tomorrow but i hope this is all true

holy shit! :eek: thanks leafs! i hope it is true, too! not so long ago, randy seemed pretty intent on not fighting in the ufc again. i guess anything can happen, given time (...oh, and $$$ ). this will set up some huge potential matches for the HW division!

mookie blaylock 10

TheDecline13 wrote:

this would be awesome if randy came back. i think Brock would win if he continued to work on his stand up. But i would be routing for Randy all the way. You can not count that man out.
Go Randy!

sounds like we'll have an answer tomorrow, and it seems pretty much a done
deal!

mookie blaylock 10

also, it's very cool that randy will be fighting in oregon. have to wonder if that was merely coincidence or if that was an intentional move as part of the negotiations.

edit: this post no longer makes "sense", "since" the fight is happening in vegas.

mookie blaylock 10

hmmm...i wonder what this could be all aboot?

Major UFC Announcement Today at 3pm ET

UFC President Dana White will hold a media conference call later today to make a major UFC announcement. The call will take place at 3pm ET/12Noon PT. Check back with UFC.com for the full report.

http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=news.detail&gid=14259

civ_eng_girl

As some of you know, i'm not Randy's biggest fan.

My initial reaction to his return is that i think he should give it up already, and give some of the other guys in this division a chance! I find the heavyweight division to be a bit of a snoozefest to begin with, and with the same old guys fighting all the time, nothing ever changes!

i think the HW division is a mess anyways. getting rid of Andrei? Mirko left. Brandon Vera moved down to LHW didn't he? those three guys were my only hope left for HW's, and they're gone!

what we need is new HW talent. not Randy.... sorry guys....

leafs4ever

civ_eng_girl wrote:

As some of you know, i'm not Randy's biggest fan.

My initial reaction to his return is that i think he should give it up already, and give some of the other guys in this division a chance! I find the heavyweight division to be a bit of a snoozefest to begin with, and with the same old guys fighting all the time, nothing ever changes!

i think the HW division is a mess anyways. getting rid of Andrei? Mirko left. Brandon Vera moved down to LHW didn't he? those three guys were my only hope left for HW's, and they're gone!

what we need is new HW talent. not Randy.... sorry guys....

i agree about letting the young guys get at it, but if randy can come in and perform like he last did i don't see any problem with him competing until he can't hang anymore. A guy like Ken Shamrock comes to mind
The HW division is a mess and i agree that i wish arlovski and cro cop didn't leave but it will grow and i think with randy coming back it opens alot more fights up. I personally think Brandon should have moved down to lhw earlier but i can see why he is loved at hw, he doesn't give a f---- and i love that kind of attitude.
With randy coming back it opens up for a Lesnar/Randy match, Randy/Nog (who have never faced each other), and will hopefully help entice Fedor into ufc competition.
And don't worry about the new HW talent... the Next Big Thing is here!!!

mookie blaylock 10

civ_eng_girl wrote:

As some of you know, i'm not Randy's biggest fan.

My initial reaction to his return is that i think he should give it up already, and give some of the other guys in this division a chance! I find the heavyweight division to be a bit of a snoozefest to begin with, and with the same old guys fighting all the time, nothing ever changes!

i think the HW division is a mess anyways. getting rid of Andrei? Mirko left. Brandon Vera moved down to LHW didn't he? those three guys were my only hope left for HW's, and they're gone!

what we need is new HW talent. not Randy.... sorry guys....

i didn't think you would enjoy this news, ceg. i'm with you on the HW division being boring most of the time. i do like a few of them and i'm just happy the soap opera is over again, for now.

with mirko possibly coming back in 2009, "the next big thing" that leafs mentioned , cain velasquez, randy, werdum, and big nog at least there is the start of some very intriguing matches (randy vs. big nog, please!!! ). if andrei and brandon were still around it would be even better, but it was a stupid mistake to let andrei go and i think brandon will get better at LHW, in my opinion. what a strange rollercoaster the HW division is...let's see some LW's!

civ_eng_girl

mookie blaylock 10 wrote:

got the picks in for next week. no more secrets about the rounds and minutes, but i won't post them because i'm always changing my mind on those.


UFC 88, September 6, 2008 - Philips Arena, Atlanta, Georgia - PPV

Main Card:

Chuck Liddell Vs. Rashad Evans - liddell by ko
Rich Franklin Vs. Matt Hamill - hamill by decision
Karo Parisyan Vs. Yoshiyuki Yoshida - yoshida by decision
Rousimar Palhares Vs. Dan Henderson - henderson by tko
Martin Kampmann Vs. Nate Marquardt - marquardt by tko

Pre-lims:

Jason Lambert Vs. Jason MacDonald - macdonald by submission
Kurt Pellgrino Vs. Thiago Tavares - pellegrino by decision
Matt Brown Vs. Dong Hyun Kim - KDH by TKO
Ryo Chonan Vs. Roan Carneiro - carneiro by decision
Tim Boetsch Vs. Mike Patt - boetsch by tko

ok... here are my picks for Saturday....

i simply did not want to have to pick between Rich and Matt. but i went with Matt... 'cuz he's my boy.

Chuck Liddell Vs. Rashad Evans - liddell by unanimous decision
Rich Franklin Vs. Matt Hamill - hamill by split decision
Karo Parisyan Vs. Yoshiyuki Yoshida - yoshida by submission
Rousimar Palhares Vs. Dan Henderson - henderson by tko
Martin Kampmann Vs. Nate Marquardt - kampmann by submission

Pre-lims:

Jason Lambert Vs. Jason MacDonald - macdonald by submission
Kurt Pellgrino Vs. Thiago Tavares - tavares by decision
Matt Brown Vs. Dong Hyun Kim - KDH by tko
Ryo Chonan Vs. Roan Carneiro - carneiro by tko
Tim Boetsch Vs. Mike Patt - boetsch by tko

mookie blaylock 10

good luck on the picks, ceg. since 9.9 times out of ten you are right about the decisions when everyone else is eyeing a ko, i'm going to have to rethink my liddell pick!

leafs4ever

ok here's my picks for the weekend:
Chuck Liddell v. Rashad Evans
Winner: Chuck Liddell Knock Out
Rich Franklin v. Matt Hamill
Winner: Matt Hamill Unanimous Decision
Karo Parisyan v. Yoshiyuki Yoshida
Winner: Yoshiyuki Yoshida Unanimous Decision
Dan Henderson v. Rousimar Palhares
Winner: Dan Henderson Unanimous Decision
Thiago Tavares v. Kurt Pellegrino
Winner: Thiago Tavares Submission (Other)
Dong Hyun Kim v. Matt Brown
Winner: Dong Hyun Kim Technical Knock Out
Roan Carneiro v. Ryo Chonan
Winner: Roan Carneiro Unanimous Decision
Martin Kampmann v. Nate Marquardt
Winner: Nate Marquardt Unanimous Decision
Jason Lambert v. Jason MacDonald
Winner: Jason Lambert Technical Knock Out
Tim Boetsch v. Michael Patt
Winner: Tim Boetsch Technical Knock Out

Looking at your guys picks, i think ceg is right with the UD for chuck, but i still had to go with KO.
I also think Mookie might be right with the pellegrino pick, i think he will take the 1st round, but i think tavares will take the 3rd. If it goes to decision, I think it comes down to the 2nd and if kurt tires early, i think it'll be tavares' round. I also think tavares could win by sub in the 3rd though.
And sorry guys, i hope i'm wrong, but, i think jason is getting beat up.

LONGRD

Just a casual fan but I'll probably check this one out, looks like a nice matchcard. I'll keep my eye out on the Lesnar-Couture match in Nov. as well.

I was looking up for info on the Kimbo-Shamrock fight, didn't realized that was a different promotion. reminds me of the old WCW/WWF days, sadly wrestling has been dead for the 6 years:( ...now been trying to convert to MMA.