Acquaintance Rape

Heineken Helen

AllNiteThing wrote:

No. I'm insinuating that because you are equating Tish's situation with the assault that happened with you that you aren't looking at it clearly. Most here are looking at it from an unbiased 3rd person point of view. You're defending Tish as though you are defending what happened to you. You do that and this discussion has turned into HH's experience vs. everyone else, rather than everyone talking about the OP's story, which it should be.

On that note, I'm out of this thread, but thanks for clarifying how YOU want the thread to be... and all threads for that matter. I wasn't aware you wrote the rules.

Redrock and Jeanie good luck

Heineken Helen

AllNiteThing wrote:

That's pretty much what I've deduced from this discussion and some of the pm's I've gotten.

PM's?

And yet, it's not a personal attack... but you're bitching about me BEHIND my back? Don't have the nerves to say it to my face? Nice!

Jeanie

Heineken Helen wrote:

Shite, awww Conor you shoulda told me to stop and I woulda!

So you understand the meaning of the word STOP and NO then Helen?

in_hiding79

The Champ wrote:

I'm a guy and you have said plenty of shit that I didn't want to hear/read ..

LOL, thanks CHAMP!!

The Champ

Heineken Helen wrote:

On that note, I'm out of this thread

Okay, here is my chance for the last word, and you better not have crossed your fingers behind your back or anything ..

The Champ

Heineken Helen wrote:

PM's?

And yet, it's not a personal attack... but you're bitching about me BEHIND my back? Don't have the nerves to say it to my face? Nice!

Fuck, I lost again..

soulsinging

AllNiteThing wrote:

Is that what you've learned?? Yikes!

How about:

1) If you've been raped or assaulted, you are the victim and should report it. The perpetrator should be punished.

2) You are sorely lacking judgement if as a woman you invite a man you barely know over to your house and act like the world turned upside down when he tries to make a move on you.

3) Common sense can keep you out of trouble and curtail many a bad situation.

But that's just me and my wild and crazy logic!!!

i would add:

4) throwing around the word rape as liberally as the OP did (when there was NO rape or even sexual assault!) is a slap in the face to real victims and causes the sorts of problems jeanie and helen are so worried about... people becoming skeptical towards all rape victims becos of those who cry wolf.

AllNiteThing

What I'VE learned from this thread:

1) Any man invited over to a woman's house he barely knows should wait for her to initiate romance, lest he be charged with rape.

2) ALL encounters between a man and a woman are exactly the same and can be compared equally. One girls romantic fumblings equates to another being raped.

3) It is completely smart and sane for a woman to invite a man she barely knows over to HER place.

4) If you are asked to leave by a woman who invited you over and you hesitate for even 1 minute, you should be charged with trespassing.


I hope all of this is clear to me now, so my logic can be reprogrammed to avoid having an aneurysm next time.

Jeanie

Heineken Helen wrote:

On that note, I'm out of this thread, but thanks for clarifying how YOU want the thread to be... and all threads for that matter. I wasn't aware you wrote the rules.

Redrock and Jeanie good luck

Thanks love, but I won't need it.

soulsinging

AllNiteThing wrote:

What I'VE learned from this thread:

1) Any man invited over to a woman's house he barely knows should wait for her to initiate romance, lest he be charged with rape.

2) ALL encounters between a man and a woman are exactly the same and can be compared equally. One girls romantic fumblings equates to another being raped.

3) It is completely smart and sane for a woman to invite a man she barely knows over to HER place.

4) If you are asked to leave by a woman who invited you over and you hesitate for even 1 minute, you should be charged with trespassing.


I hope all of this is clear to me now, so my logic can be reprogrammed to avoid having an aneurysm next time.

dont forget:

5) even if she answers the door buck naked, you are a total scumbag rapist if you even think for one second she might want to have sex with you, becos you may not use any verbal, situational, or visual cues to determine interest... only an attorney with a signed consent form is an acceptable way to determine that she is interested in getting physical.

Jeanie

soulsinging wrote:

i would add:

4) throwing around the word rape as liberally as the OP did (when there was NO rape or even sexual assault!) is a slap in the face to real victims and causes the sorts of problems jeanie and helen are so worried about... people becoming skeptical towards all rape victims becos of those who cry wolf.

Get back to me when you've been raped thanks. I took NO issue with the terminology OR the explanation of the OP. And perhaps do us all a favor and go read some of the stats? It wouldn't take jack shit for you to be sceptical. If it's not happening to you then it aint happening and if it's not happening the way you say it is then it doesn't count either. So spare me the psuedo concern. At least have the balls to dress your hatred up right.

AllNiteThing

double post

soulsinging

Jeanie wrote:

Get back to me when you've been raped thanks. I took NO issue with the terminology OR the explanation of the OP. And perhaps do us all a favor and go read some of the stats? It wouldn't take jack shit for you to be sceptical. If it's not happening to you then it aint happening and if it's not happening the way you say it is then it doesn't count either. So spare me the psuedo concern. At least have the balls to dress your hatred up right.

http://forums.pearljam.com/showpost.php?p=5012915&postcount=28

i begged her that night not go. i asked her to go home when she called me wasted that night. i had warned her weeks before the guy was shady. she put herself in that position. but that does not make what he did ok. and he stuck his dick inside her. not the same ballpark as "he kept begging me for sex, it was so slimy." not even the same game. never will be. but i hold each accountable for their actions. she was a fool to go, he was a criminal for what he did when she got there.

AllNiteThing

Jeanie wrote:

I've read enough of your opinions on how everybody else should conduct their life thank you very much. I really don't see any point to taking anything you've said on board. AND I might add that it's attitudes like the ones you've been spewing forth here that lead me to the conclusion that if you are raped or even almost raped that you would be well advised NOT TELLING ANYONE because WHO in their right mind would want to have to put up with all this crap ON TOP of the attack? But thanks for your input.

How can you make those fanciful assumptions from this?????:

#1 pretty much shoots your accusations out of the water. And #2 you conveniently ignore.

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1) If you've been raped or assaulted, you are the victim and should report it. The perpetrator should be punished.

2) You are sorely lacking judgement if as a woman you invite a man you barely know over to your house and act like the world turned upside down when he tries to make a move on you.

3) Common sense can keep you out of trouble and curtail many a bad situation.

But that's just me and my wild and crazy logic!!!

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AllNiteThing

Heineken Helen wrote:

On that note, I'm out of this thread, but thanks for clarifying how YOU want the thread to be... and all threads for that matter. I wasn't aware you wrote the rules.

Redrock and Jeanie good luck

I'm pretty sure it's common message board etiquette. Stay on topic and don't make every thread about you. Sounds about right.

AllNiteThing

Heineken Helen wrote:

PM's?

And yet, it's not a personal attack... but you're bitching about me BEHIND my back? Don't have the nerves to say it to my face? Nice!

I haven't written 1 pm talking about you, but I've gotten plenty. Thanks for the wild assumptions again.

AllNiteThing

soulsinging wrote:

i would add:

4) throwing around the word rape as liberally as the OP did (when there was NO rape or even sexual assault!) is a slap in the face to real victims and causes the sorts of problems jeanie and helen are so worried about... people becoming skeptical towards all rape victims becos of those who cry wolf.

Very well said. Any of the drama majors in here want to comment on this please?

Danimal

soulsinging wrote:

http://forums.pearljam.com/showpost.php?p=5012915&postcount=28

i begged her that night not go. i asked her to go home when she called me wasted that night. i had warned her weeks before the guy was shady. she put herself in that position. but that does not make what he did ok. and he stuck his dick inside her. not the same ballpark as "he kept begging me for sex, it was so slimy." not even the same game. never will be. but i hold each accountable for their actions. she was a fool to go, he was a criminal for what he did when she got there.

Jesus Christ, dude, I'm sorry.

AllNiteThing

soulsinging wrote:

dont forget:

5) even if she answers the door buck naked, you are a total scumbag rapist if you even think for one second she might want to have sex with you, becos you may not use any verbal, situational, or visual cues to determine interest... only an attorney with a signed consent form is an acceptable way to determine that she is interested in getting physical.

6) Men are disgusting pigs and are solely responsible for any and all decisions made by them or the woman before, during and after every encounter.

Rygar

Danimal wrote:

Jesus Christ, dude, I'm sorry.

Seconded.