Is It Really Better To Have Loved And Lost Than

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genie wrote:

you knew i would like that? :eek: that kinda shit creeps me out, it makes me paranoid thinking what else you might know or predict about me.

saying this however, there is one person in here that i think i can predict...well because i think he's a bit of a dork, in a loving way of course

I was joking haha... I know nothing about you and can not predict anything. Matter of fact, I'm kinda scared of you;):D **runs and hides**

_Crazy_Mary_

I won't forget you, baby... I won't forget you

justam

in_hiding79 wrote:

To Never Have Loved At All ...??

Yes. It's always better.

Spunkie

failedpersephone wrote:

not if you are not loved in return.

tis better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all...that implies that YOU are doing both the loving and the losing.

so, with that in mind - no. I would rather not have loved at all if, even tho I have loved, I was not loved in return. adding salt to the wound is the fact that my love was not enough to not have lost in the end.

so now i have loved, not been loved back, and then lost that one-sided love.

nope. I would rather be loved, than to love.
I like to keep in mind another sage's advice: if you can't have the one you love...honey. love the one you're with (I add this part) but make sure that they love you more, and they know how to take out the fucking garbage...I mean, really how fucking difficult is this??

I don' think the expression states anything about not being loved in return.

St. Francis has a prayer about it being better to love than be loved. I'd have to disagree with most of your post, except the song quote and the god-damn garbage. I mean really, what else are men for? That and their C++ck, that is.

failedpersephone

tish wrote:

I don' think the expression states anything about not being loved in return.

St. Francis has a prayer about it being better to love than be loved. I'd have to disagree with most of your post, except the song quote and the god-damn garbage. I mean really, what else are men for? That and their C++ck, that is.

hmmn,

I was going with the Lord.
"'Tis better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all." Lord Tennyson, that is.

I stated IF...I was saying that IF I was doing more of the loving, and yet I still lost...I would rather have never been/seen/tried.

defeatist. . .well, sure i am.

the St. Francis prayer
"Lord, make me a channel of thy peace - that where there is hatred, I may bring love - that where there is wrong, I may bring the spirit of forgiveness - that where there is discord, I may bring harmony - that where there is error, I may bring truth - that where there is doubt, I may bring faith - that where there is despair, I may bring hope - that where there are shadows, I may bring light - that where there is sadness, I may bring joy. Lord, grant that I may seek rather to comfort than to be comforted - to understand, than to be understood - to love, than to be loved. For it is by self-forgetting that one finds. It is by forgiving that one is forgiven. It is by dying that one awakens to Eternal Life. Amen.

does mention that it is better to love than to be loved, but the condition placed is the same one for any self-less act. so, if you are looking for selfless, then, I concur...but I was talking about loving someone who doesn't think you are ever good enough, and then they leave you...and you are stuck holding a bag full o' nuthin' and that bag is your self respect.

If love is reciprocated, then you can trust and be selfless.

but that is a quandary...chicken or the egg ain't it??

TrixieCat

Yes, it is better to have loved.
There is no other feeling like it in the world.
If you can love once, you can love again.
Cue the tune:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxnl83HD3R0

Cheers to love.

SPEEDY MCCREADY

it is better to have loved and lost....than to have never loved at all.....

unless of course..... you are in prison....

hehehehehe...........

gabers

_Crazy_Mary_ wrote:

I won't forget you, baby... I won't forget you

I can't believe you're only the second person to reference Poison on this.

FinsburyParkCarrots

writersu wrote:

yes, and as Mick Jagger so elequently put it,



"If you can't rock me, somebody will............"

Or, as Wayne/Jayne County put it better,

"If you don't want to fuck me, baby fuck off."

Spunkie

Or, "If she won't do it, her sister will."

FinsburyParkCarrots

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvWHTEHGHCE

Jeanie

writersu wrote:

I don't know why I am responding since I am in a fog now and not clear of the answer at all........

still, this is too tempting to not answer to.........

There have been times I thought I was in love, when I was younger and it was just a disaster. Those were not the relationships that I like to think of really, if they were to be done over, I would have done like this cool guy I use to work with use to say, "played it better". He use to say, "it's all in the way you play it". Now I get it. I allowed myself to be made a joke from the same guys who sure enjoyed the joke sometimes. enough said on that.

and then there is my current situation where I have been married for 17 years (damn, that sounds so long) and I am seperated for almost a year now, and I see that we never ever had the real love that people dream of, hope for and sometimes really do get. I just don't know how they get it, because I sure didn't know it at the time; that it wasn't really love like it should have been. But when I am sad and lonely, I think that if carma,or fate or whatever it is suppose to be called, plays a part in this life thing, then it is as it should have been because I have 4 wonderful kids that have been worth all of the disappointment, sadness, and whatever else I now feel because the marriage gave me these kids. I can't look at my ex husband or whatever the hell I am suppose to call him; sorry I SO do not know that answer, really, and say that he and I had these kids because he just doesn't have what it takes to be considered a good father; he is so out of touch with reality.......it's sad really. So I feel that I had the kids alone, mostly, except for the chemical part, and now I still do. And even though I really am quite repulsed at him (after all of the times I wanted things to work with him and he was cold), because he killed the whole thing I am so glad that I have my kids because although they will grow and get on with their lives, as they should really, I hope they will always be in my life and I in theirs in appropriate ways as they grow.

I still wonder about the love thing.........I wonder if when they are grown up and I think about getting into another relationship maybe if I will find real love.

Yep, there it is. Pretty much the way I see it.

I'd love to think it's better to have loved and lost than to have never have loved at all but sometimes you love so much and it all ends so badly that you wish you'd never felt love at all EVER. The ending tends to null and void the love you felt.

Sometimes you lose and you are grateful that you loved anyway. But mostly losing means it probably wasn't really love anyway.
I'd like to have a "better to have loved and won" kinda life but seems that only happens to some lucky people.

Sometimes it's better to have loved and lost and sometimes it's better to have never loved at all.

writersu

Jeanie wrote:

Yep, there it is. Pretty much the way I see it.

I'd love to think it's better to have loved and lost than to have never have loved at all but sometimes you love so much and it all ends so badly that you wish you'd never felt love at all EVER. The ending tends to null and void the love you felt.

Sometimes you lose and you are grateful that you loved anyway. But mostly losing means it probably wasn't really love anyway.
I'd like to have a "better to have loved and won" kinda life but seems that only happens to some lucky people.

Sometimes it's better to have loved and lost and sometimes it's better to have never loved at all.

kind of like that old song, "I learned the truth at 17. That love was meant for beauty queens and high school girls with clear skin smiles , who married young and then retired................." by that dyke chick but the words are true.................

Jeanie

writersu wrote:

kind of like that old song, "I learned the truth at 17. That love was meant for beauty queens and high school girls with clear skin smiles , who married young and then retired................." by that dyke chick but the words are true.................

Janis Ian. At Seventeen. A very cool song and a very cool chic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efHOIT1ROk8

I don't even know if what I said made sense. I just know that how something ends colours how you view it.

writersu

Jeanie wrote:

Janis Ian. At Seventeen. A very cool song and a very cool chic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efHOIT1ROk8

I don't even know if what I said made sense. I just know that how something ends colours how you view it.

yeah, that's her......profound song. I don't think I heard of her on any other songs although I am very sure that she had to do something. Can you think of any others?

so I stand SO corrected on the dyke thing; she looks nothing like a dyke here; I think when I saw her she looked like one but she actually looks sort of pretty here......

or have I just gotten older and broadened my sense of beauty???

yeah, that is it I am sure...........

Jeanie

writersu wrote:

yeah, that's her......profound song. I don't think I heard of her on any other songs although I am very sure that she had to do something. Can you think of any others?

so I stand SO corrected on the dyke thing; she looks nothing like a dyke here; I think when I saw her she looked like one but she actually looks sort of pretty here......

or have I just gotten older and broadened my sense of beauty???

yeah, that is it I am sure...........

This is my favorite of hers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lLkFRG5bnM

And yeah, I'm pretty sure I saw an interview with her recently-ish where she comes out so I think she is gay......I think. I agree, she's an attractive woman and I see that now but didn't when I was younger.

elmer

Well if first we can all agree on what 'love' is first. Then I reckon it's better to have never loved.

in_hiding79

elmer wrote:

Well if first we can all agree on what 'love' is first. Then I reckon it's better to have never loved.

Deep....

South of Seattle

nfanel wrote:

definitely better to have loved and lost.
heartbreak is the WORST feeling in the world, but it's worth it for what's on the flipside.

100% Correct.

Jeanie

elmer wrote:

Well if first we can all agree on what 'love' is first. Then I reckon it's better to have never loved.

I have no problem with loving my family and then to have lost some of them. A thousand times I'd rather have loved them than not. But some of those romantic love entaglements I'd prefer I'd never laid eyes on let alone loved and lost.