tis better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all...that implies that YOU are doing both the loving and the losing.
so, with that in mind - no. I would rather not have loved at all if, even tho I have loved, I was not loved in return. adding salt to the wound is the fact that my love was not enough to not have lost in the end.
so now i have loved, not been loved back, and then lost that one-sided love.
nope. I would rather be loved, than to love.
I like to keep in mind another sage's advice: if you can't have the one you love...honey. love the one you're with (I add this part) but make sure that they love you more, and they know how to take out the fucking garbage...I mean, really how fucking difficult is this??
I don' think the expression states anything about not being loved in return.
St. Francis has a prayer about it being better to love than be loved. I'd have to disagree with most of your post, except the song quote and the god-damn garbage. I mean really, what else are men for? That and their C++ck, that is.
I don' think the expression states anything about not being loved in return.
St. Francis has a prayer about it being better to love than be loved. I'd have to disagree with most of your post, except the song quote and the god-damn garbage. I mean really, what else are men for? That and their C++ck, that is.
hmmn,
I was going with the Lord.
"'Tis better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all." Lord Tennyson, that is.
I stated IF...I was saying that IF I was doing more of the loving, and yet I still lost...I would rather have never been/seen/tried.
defeatist. . .well, sure i am.
the St. Francis prayer
"Lord, make me a channel of thy peace - that where there is hatred, I may bring love - that where there is wrong, I may bring the spirit of forgiveness - that where there is discord, I may bring harmony - that where there is error, I may bring truth - that where there is doubt, I may bring faith - that where there is despair, I may bring hope - that where there are shadows, I may bring light - that where there is sadness, I may bring joy. Lord, grant that I may seek rather to comfort than to be comforted - to understand, than to be understood - to love, than to be loved. For it is by self-forgetting that one finds. It is by forgiving that one is forgiven. It is by dying that one awakens to Eternal Life. Amen.
does mention that it is better to love than to be loved, but the condition placed is the same one for any self-less act. so, if you are looking for selfless, then, I concur...but I was talking about loving someone who doesn't think you are ever good enough, and then they leave you...and you are stuck holding a bag full o' nuthin' and that bag is your self respect.
If love is reciprocated, then you can trust and be selfless.
but that is a quandary...chicken or the egg ain't it??
IF YOU WANT A PLATE OF MY BEEF SWELLINGTON, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY THE COVERCHARGE.
I don't know why I am responding since I am in a fog now and not clear of the answer at all........
still, this is too tempting to not answer to.........
There have been times I thought I was in love, when I was younger and it was just a disaster. Those were not the relationships that I like to think of really, if they were to be done over, I would have done like this cool guy I use to work with use to say, "played it better". He use to say, "it's all in the way you play it". Now I get it. I allowed myself to be made a joke from the same guys who sure enjoyed the joke sometimes. enough said on that.
and then there is my current situation where I have been married for 17 years (damn, that sounds so long) and I am seperated for almost a year now, and I see that we never ever had the real love that people dream of, hope for and sometimes really do get. I just don't know how they get it, because I sure didn't know it at the time; that it wasn't really love like it should have been. But when I am sad and lonely, I think that if carma,or fate or whatever it is suppose to be called, plays a part in this life thing, then it is as it should have been because I have 4 wonderful kids that have been worth all of the disappointment, sadness, and whatever else I now feel because the marriage gave me these kids. I can't look at my ex husband or whatever the hell I am suppose to call him; sorry I SO do not know that answer, really, and say that he and I had these kids because he just doesn't have what it takes to be considered a good father; he is so out of touch with reality.......it's sad really. So I feel that I had the kids alone, mostly, except for the chemical part, and now I still do. And even though I really am quite repulsed at him (after all of the times I wanted things to work with him and he was cold), because he killed the whole thing I am so glad that I have my kids because although they will grow and get on with their lives, as they should really, I hope they will always be in my life and I in theirs in appropriate ways as they grow.
I still wonder about the love thing.........I wonder if when they are grown up and I think about getting into another relationship maybe if I will find real love.
Yep, there it is. Pretty much the way I see it.
I'd love to think it's better to have loved and lost than to have never have loved at all but sometimes you love so much and it all ends so badly that you wish you'd never felt love at all EVER. The ending tends to null and void the love you felt.
Sometimes you lose and you are grateful that you loved anyway. But mostly losing means it probably wasn't really love anyway.
I'd like to have a "better to have loved and won" kinda life but seems that only happens to some lucky people.
Sometimes it's better to have loved and lost and sometimes it's better to have never loved at all.
I'd love to think it's better to have loved and lost than to have never have loved at all but sometimes you love so much and it all ends so badly that you wish you'd never felt love at all EVER. The ending tends to null and void the love you felt.
Sometimes you lose and you are grateful that you loved anyway. But mostly losing means it probably wasn't really love anyway.
I'd like to have a "better to have loved and won" kinda life but seems that only happens to some lucky people.
Sometimes it's better to have loved and lost and sometimes it's better to have never loved at all.
kind of like that old song, "I learned the truth at 17. That love was meant for beauty queens and high school girls with clear skin smiles , who married young and then retired................." by that dyke chick but the words are true.................
Baby, You Wouldn't Last a Minute on The Creek......
Together we will float like angels.........
In the moment that you left the room, the album started skipping, goodbye to beauty shared with the ones that you love.........
kind of like that old song, "I learned the truth at 17. That love was meant for beauty queens and high school girls with clear skin smiles , who married young and then retired................." by that dyke chick but the words are true.................
Janis Ian. At Seventeen. A very cool song and a very cool chic.
I don't even know if what I said made sense. I just know that how something ends colours how you view it.
yeah, that's her......profound song. I don't think I heard of her on any other songs although I am very sure that she had to do something. Can you think of any others?
so I stand SO corrected on the dyke thing; she looks nothing like a dyke here; I think when I saw her she looked like one but she actually looks sort of pretty here......
or have I just gotten older and broadened my sense of beauty???
yeah, that is it I am sure...........
Baby, You Wouldn't Last a Minute on The Creek......
Together we will float like angels.........
In the moment that you left the room, the album started skipping, goodbye to beauty shared with the ones that you love.........
yeah, that's her......profound song. I don't think I heard of her on any other songs although I am very sure that she had to do something. Can you think of any others?
so I stand SO corrected on the dyke thing; she looks nothing like a dyke here; I think when I saw her she looked like one but she actually looks sort of pretty here......
or have I just gotten older and broadened my sense of beauty???
And yeah, I'm pretty sure I saw an interview with her recently-ish where she comes out so I think she is gay......I think. I agree, she's an attractive woman and I see that now but didn't when I was younger.
Well if first we can all agree on what 'love' is first. Then I reckon it's better to have never loved.
I have no problem with loving my family and then to have lost some of them. A thousand times I'd rather have loved them than not. But some of those romantic love entaglements I'd prefer I'd never laid eyes on let alone loved and lost.
yes, yes and YES!
i cannot imagine going thru my entire life without truly feeling *love*...giving and receiving, if it means the heartache that follow whether love is lost or ended. love is just TOO good not to experience, no matter the aftermath. and, if you're lucky...it lasts a loooooooooonnnng time. i've loved 3 men, truly, in my lifetime...and thankfully, one of em is going on 21 years of love. some of em VERY rough years, but the love.......always there.....and always worth it.
kind of like that old song, "I learned the truth at 17. That love was meant for beauty queens and high school girls with clear skin smiles , who married young and then retired................." by that dyke chick but the words are true.................
WTF is this shit? Nothing spices up a conversation like some good ole fashioned bigotry. Heard any other poignant songs from some negroes or fags that you would like to discuss?
"The leads are weak!"
"The leads are weak? Fuckin' leads are weak? You're Weak! I've Been in this business 15 years"
WTF is this shit? Nothing spices up a conversation like some good ole fashioned bigotry. Heard any other poignant songs from some negroes or fags that you would like to discuss?
given some of the things I've seen you post, it's amusing that you've jumped on that. Filtering perhaps?
given some of the things I've seen you post, it's amusing that you've jumped on that. Filtering perhaps?
I invite you to bring up any time that I've used bigotry, racism, sexism, etc. on here. I make non-stop jokes (or attempts at them) but I frown upon words such as those being thrown around here.
"The leads are weak!"
"The leads are weak? Fuckin' leads are weak? You're Weak! I've Been in this business 15 years"
I invite you to bring up any time that I've used bigotry, racism, sexism, etc. on here. I make non-stop jokes (or attempts at them) but I frown upon words such as those being thrown around here.
I can think of plenty of times mookie when things that you have said could be construed as offensive but I don't feel the need to jump down your throat about it. You perceive yourself differently to how others do and I really cannot see the point to jumping down su's throat about what she's said in this thread unless of course you're feeling righteous today and you're looking for a fight.
I can think of plenty of times mookie when things that you have said could be construed as offensive but I don't feel the need to jump down your throat about it. You perceive yourself differently to how others do and I really cannot see the point to jumping down su's throat about what she's said in this thread unless of course you're feeling righteous today and you're looking for a fight.
I don't doubt that things that I have said could be offensive to some. If anyone ever feels the need to call me out I have no issues discussing it with them. However, the only people that I can think of that aren't offended by words such as dyke and use them so haphazzardly are bigots. Not looking for a fight. Just would prefer to not see words like that. That's all. Peace.
"The leads are weak!"
"The leads are weak? Fuckin' leads are weak? You're Weak! I've Been in this business 15 years"
I don't doubt that things that I have said could be offensive to some. If anyone ever feels the need to call me out I have no issues discussing it with them. However, the only people that I can think of that aren't offended by words such as dyke and use them so haphazardly are bigots. Not looking for a fight. Just would prefer to not see words like that. That's all. Peace.
As I'm quite sure I've said things that others have found offensive, my point being that it's not been my intention to be offensive and I'm sure it's not been yours either AND I'm quite sure that whatever you think su is trying to say it probably isn't what you think it is. It's a word, she's used it, you don't like it, fine but don't be labelling her because you don't like it hey? Maybe wait and see what she has to say about it all? I didn't take her usage of the word to mean that she was a bigot she was simply trying to place the singer of the song.
yeah, Cuntish. Cunt-ned!!! Please pay special attention to the 'ned', I feel that in years to come it will appear as a preface to all that ye say.......
who asked yous to bastardize me language anyway!!!, yeh, get me ye fuckers!!!!
stay 'in hiding' cos if I catch up wit yer I'm gonna take yo asa mullenkampz!!
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I was joking haha... I know nothing about you and can not predict anything. Matter of fact, I'm kinda scared of you;):D **runs and hides**
Yes. It's always better.
I don' think the expression states anything about not being loved in return.
St. Francis has a prayer about it being better to love than be loved. I'd have to disagree with most of your post, except the song quote and the god-damn garbage. I mean really, what else are men for? That and their C++ck, that is.
I was going with the Lord.
"'Tis better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all." Lord Tennyson, that is.
I stated IF...I was saying that IF I was doing more of the loving, and yet I still lost...I would rather have never been/seen/tried.
defeatist. . .well, sure i am.
the St. Francis prayer
"Lord, make me a channel of thy peace - that where there is hatred, I may bring love - that where there is wrong, I may bring the spirit of forgiveness - that where there is discord, I may bring harmony - that where there is error, I may bring truth - that where there is doubt, I may bring faith - that where there is despair, I may bring hope - that where there are shadows, I may bring light - that where there is sadness, I may bring joy. Lord, grant that I may seek rather to comfort than to be comforted - to understand, than to be understood - to love, than to be loved. For it is by self-forgetting that one finds. It is by forgiving that one is forgiven. It is by dying that one awakens to Eternal Life. Amen.
does mention that it is better to love than to be loved, but the condition placed is the same one for any self-less act. so, if you are looking for selfless, then, I concur...but I was talking about loving someone who doesn't think you are ever good enough, and then they leave you...and you are stuck holding a bag full o' nuthin' and that bag is your self respect.
If love is reciprocated, then you can trust and be selfless.
but that is a quandary...chicken or the egg ain't it??
There is no other feeling like it in the world.
If you can love once, you can love again.
Cue the tune:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxnl83HD3R0
Cheers to love.
And I don't feel right when you're gone away
unless of course..... you are in prison....
hehehehehe...........
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
I can't believe you're only the second person to reference Poison on this.
Or, as Wayne/Jayne County put it better,
"If you don't want to fuck me, baby fuck off."
Yep, there it is. Pretty much the way I see it.
I'd love to think it's better to have loved and lost than to have never have loved at all but sometimes you love so much and it all ends so badly that you wish you'd never felt love at all EVER. The ending tends to null and void the love you felt.
Sometimes you lose and you are grateful that you loved anyway. But mostly losing means it probably wasn't really love anyway.
I'd like to have a "better to have loved and won" kinda life but seems that only happens to some lucky people.
Sometimes it's better to have loved and lost and sometimes it's better to have never loved at all.
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kind of like that old song, "I learned the truth at 17. That love was meant for beauty queens and high school girls with clear skin smiles , who married young and then retired................." by that dyke chick but the words are true.................
Together we will float like angels.........
In the moment that you left the room, the album started skipping, goodbye to beauty shared with the ones that you love.........
Janis Ian. At Seventeen.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efHOIT1ROk8
I don't even know if what I said made sense. I just know that how something ends colours how you view it.
*~You're IT Bert!~*
Hold on to the thread
The currents will shift
yeah, that's her......profound song. I don't think I heard of her on any other songs although I am very sure that she had to do something. Can you think of any others?
so I stand SO corrected on the dyke thing; she looks nothing like a dyke here; I think when I saw her she looked like one but she actually looks sort of pretty here......
or have I just gotten older and broadened my sense of beauty???
yeah, that is it I am sure...........
Together we will float like angels.........
In the moment that you left the room, the album started skipping, goodbye to beauty shared with the ones that you love.........
This is my favorite of hers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lLkFRG5bnM
And yeah, I'm pretty sure I saw an interview with her recently-ish where she comes out so I think she is gay......I think. I agree, she's an attractive woman and I see that now but didn't when I was younger.
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Deep....
"What a stupid lamb."
"What a sick, masochistic lion."
100% Correct.
I have no problem with loving my family and then to have lost some of them. A thousand times I'd rather have loved them than not. But some of those romantic love entaglements I'd prefer I'd never laid eyes on let alone loved and lost.
*~You're IT Bert!~*
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The currents will shift
i cannot imagine going thru my entire life without truly feeling *love*...giving and receiving, if it means the heartache that follow whether love is lost or ended. love is just TOO good not to experience, no matter the aftermath. and, if you're lucky...it lasts a loooooooooonnnng time. i've loved 3 men, truly, in my lifetime...and thankfully, one of em is going on 21 years of love. some of em VERY rough years, but the love.......always there.....and always worth it.
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow
WTF is this shit? Nothing spices up a conversation like some good ole fashioned bigotry. Heard any other poignant songs from some negroes or fags that you would like to discuss?
"The leads are weak? Fuckin' leads are weak? You're Weak! I've Been in this business 15 years"
"What's your name?"
"FUCK YOU! THAT"S MY NAME!"
given some of the things I've seen you post, it's amusing that you've jumped on that. Filtering perhaps?
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The currents will shift
I invite you to bring up any time that I've used bigotry, racism, sexism, etc. on here. I make non-stop jokes (or attempts at them) but I frown upon words such as those being thrown around here.
"The leads are weak? Fuckin' leads are weak? You're Weak! I've Been in this business 15 years"
"What's your name?"
"FUCK YOU! THAT"S MY NAME!"
I can think of plenty of times mookie when things that you have said could be construed as offensive but I don't feel the need to jump down your throat about it. You perceive yourself differently to how others do and I really cannot see the point to jumping down su's throat about what she's said in this thread unless of course you're feeling righteous today and you're looking for a fight.
*~You're IT Bert!~*
Hold on to the thread
The currents will shift
I don't doubt that things that I have said could be offensive to some. If anyone ever feels the need to call me out I have no issues discussing it with them. However, the only people that I can think of that aren't offended by words such as dyke and use them so haphazzardly are bigots. Not looking for a fight. Just would prefer to not see words like that. That's all. Peace.
"The leads are weak? Fuckin' leads are weak? You're Weak! I've Been in this business 15 years"
"What's your name?"
"FUCK YOU! THAT"S MY NAME!"
As I'm quite sure I've said things that others have found offensive, my point being that it's not been my intention to be offensive and I'm sure it's not been yours either AND I'm quite sure that whatever you think su is trying to say it probably isn't what you think it is. It's a word, she's used it, you don't like it, fine but don't be labelling her because you don't like it hey? Maybe wait and see what she has to say about it all? I didn't take her usage of the word to mean that she was a bigot she was simply trying to place the singer of the song.
*~You're IT Bert!~*
Hold on to the thread
The currents will shift
who asked yous to bastardize me language anyway!!!, yeh, get me ye fuckers!!!!
stay 'in hiding' cos if I catch up wit yer I'm gonna take yo asa mullenkampz!!
what the hell! How many drinks have you had today?!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
oh yeah, I totally agree...men are only any good for their crack
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