2008 hall of fame class

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  • smarchee
    smarchee Windsor, Ontario Posts: 14,539
    SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:
    23%

    hmm, do you mind me asking what percentage he got last year ?
    1998 ~ Barrie
    2003 ~ Toronto
    2005 ~ London, Toronto
    2006 ~ Toronto
    2008 ~ Hartford, Mansfied I,
    2009 ~ Toronto, Chicago I, Chicago II
    2010 ~ Cleveland, Buffalo
    2011 ~ Toronto I, Toronto II, Ottawa, Hamilton
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  • Solat13
    Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    smarchee wrote:
    how many voted did McGwire get ?

    Same as last year 128.

    You needed 408 to be elected this time around.
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • Solat13
    Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    smarchee wrote:
    hmm, do you mind me asking what percentage he got last year ?

    He had 23.5% of the vote last year. 23.6% this year.
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • SPEEDY MCCREADY
    SPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 26,950
    rearviewmiror wrote:
    Last year is the last time before the Veteran's comm. He deserves to be in as he was as dominant as they come during his peak 10 year period.
    if goose gossage is a hall of famer.....

    then jim rice should have been a first ballot hall of famer....

    like you said......for 10 years he was one of the most dominant players in the game.....
    Take me piece by piece.....
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  • LONGRD
    LONGRD Posts: 6,036
    Solat13 wrote:
    He had 23.5% of the vote last year. 23.6% this year.
    i dont think he's gonna make it with those percentage until all the sudden the steroid scandals are forgiven immediately.
    PJ- 04/29/2003.06/24,25,27,28,30/2008.10/27,28,30,31/2009
    EV- 08/09,10/2008.06/08,09/2009
  • SPEEDY MCCREADY
    SPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 26,950
    mark mcgwire=dave kingman....

    before the steroids......
    Take me piece by piece.....
    Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
  • PureandEasy
    PureandEasy Posts: 5,818
    I can't believe they keep passing over Jim Rice

    pisses me off
    Don't come closer or I'll have to go
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,827
    RICE not getting in probably has more to do with attitude towards press than his actuall stats ,i've heard that on sports talk radio and then again maybe not ..who knows but it seems someone has a bug up their ass about him ....
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • Solat13
    Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:
    if goose gossage is a hall of famer.....

    then jim rice should have been a first ballot hall of famer....

    like you said......for 10 years he was one of the most dominant players in the game.....

    Yep, one MVP and 5 other top 5 in the MVP voting in 10 years is pretty dominant. Plus 3 home run titles and 2 rbi titles.

    I like the fact in 1978, he just missed the triple crown finishing 3rd in batting, first in homers and rbis, but more impressively, he also finished first in triples. What slugger ever leads the league in triples?
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,935
    Get_Right wrote:
    Jim's numbers are borderline and the votes reflect

    pretty sure he never was a batting champ and has never won a championship
    even though he was a very good player for a very long time, .280 hitters dont get to the hall without something more.
    Well he has a .298 career average.
    He was MVP in 1978.
    77-79 he hit 39, 46 and 39 Hrs when 20 hrs was a big power season and hit .320, .315 and .325 those same years He was the AL's most feared hitter from 1976-1983.
    Eye problems cut his carer short, today lasix surgery would have extended his career a couple o fseasons and 400 Hr's would have been a lock.
    This weekend we rock Portland
  • LONGRD
    LONGRD Posts: 6,036
    josevolution wrote:
    RICE not getting in probably has more to do with attitude towards press than his actuall stats ,i've heard that on sports talk radio and then again maybe not ..who knows but it seems someone has a bug up their ass about him ....
    his playing was before my time...but he seems like a nice fella during his commentary on NESN.
    PJ- 04/29/2003.06/24,25,27,28,30/2008.10/27,28,30,31/2009
    EV- 08/09,10/2008.06/08,09/2009
  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,935
    LongRd. wrote:
    his playing was before my time...but he seems like a nice fella during his commentary on NESN.
    He basically would not talk to reporters during most of his playing days, so many now are exercising their revenge...quite petty.
    This weekend we rock Portland
  • Strangest Tribe
    Strangest Tribe Posts: 2,502
    If they let Sandberg in they should let Andre Dawson in as well.
    Dawson had better numbers and was a multi-gold glove winner.

    http://www.baseball-reference.com/d/dawsoan01.shtml


    look at these numbers and explain why this man isn't in the Hall
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  • LONGRD
    LONGRD Posts: 6,036
    Poncier wrote:
    He basically would not talk to reporters during most of his playing days, so many now are exercising their revenge...quite petty.

    smh @ bitter sports writers. isn't part of journalism to be objective, holding a grudge against a player who refuses to talk for 10+ years is a bit bias don't you think? They should just look at his numbers and era, instead of his personality.
    PJ- 04/29/2003.06/24,25,27,28,30/2008.10/27,28,30,31/2009
    EV- 08/09,10/2008.06/08,09/2009
  • SPEEDY MCCREADY
    SPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 26,950
    Strangest Tribe wrote:
    If they let Sandberg in they should let Andre Dawson in as well.
    Dawson had better numbers and was a multi-gold glove winner.

    http://www.baseball-reference.com/d/dawsoan01.shtml


    look at these numbers and explain why this man isn't in the Hall
    im one of those who believes dawson isnt a hall of famer.....

    was he really fucking good???? yes....

    but so was dave parker and dale murphy .............
    Take me piece by piece.....
    Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
  • Strangest Tribe
    Strangest Tribe Posts: 2,502
    SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:
    im one of those who believes dawson isnt a hall of famer.....

    was he really fucking good???? yes....

    but so was dave parker and dale murphy .............

    think Sandberg should be there???
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  • JSBE
    JSBE Posts: 1,078
    somehow tony perez is in the hall with these numbers in 23 seasons:

    1,272 runs
    2,732 hits
    379 hr
    1,652 rbi
    0.289 average
    0.341 obp
    0.463 slugging

    7 time all-star
    no mvp, top 5 mvp ONCE

    but jim rice is not in with these numbers in 16 seasons?

    1,249 runs
    2,452 hits
    382 hr
    1,451 rbi
    0.298 average
    0.352 obp
    0.502 slugging

    8 time all-star
    1 mvp awards, top 5 mvp finish SIX times

    and if you want to bring up injuries, kirby puckett is in the HOF.
  • SPEEDY MCCREADY
    SPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 26,950
    Strangest Tribe wrote:
    think Sandberg should be there???
    sandberg was the best 2nd baseman of his era.....

    both fielding and hitting.......right????

    so yes he belongs.....

    after his first 10 years there were people calling him one of the best second baseman ever.....
    Take me piece by piece.....
    Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
  • SPEEDY MCCREADY
    SPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 26,950
    JSBE wrote:
    somehow tony perez is in the hall with these numbers in 23 seasons:

    1,249 runs
    2,452 hits
    382 hr
    1,451 rbi
    0.298 average
    0.352 obp
    0.502 slugging

    8 time all-star
    1 mvp awards, top mvp finish SIX times

    and if you want to bring up injuries, kirby puckett is in the HOF.
    kirby hit .318 lifetime.....he belongs....
    Take me piece by piece.....
    Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
  • Strangest Tribe
    Strangest Tribe Posts: 2,502
    SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:
    sandberg was the best 2nd baseman of his era.....

    both fielding and hitting.......right????

    so yes he belongs.....

    after his first 10 years there were people calling him one of the best second baseman ever.....

    Yeah but same can be said for Robby Alomar who played longer than Sandberg
    I'm not sure I could put Alomar in there

    I can't think of anyone better than Dawson either in the OF during the same era and there are 3 times as many OF'ers....Eddie Murray? Dave Winfield??
    Henderson??? Dawson had more gold gloves and as good of numbers as all these guys
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