2008 hall of fame class

xavier mcdaniel
xavier mcdaniel Somewhere in NYC Posts: 9,450
edited January 2008 in All Encompassing Trip
is goose gossage. jim rice fails to get in again.
Reading 2004
Albany 2006 Camden 2006 E. Rutherford 2, 2006 Inglewood 2006,
Chicago 2007
Camden 2008 MSG 2008 MSG 2008 Hartford 2008.
Seattle 2009 Seattle 2009 Philadelphia 2009,Philadelphia 2009 Philadelphia 2009
Hartford 2010 MSG 2010 MSG 2010
Toronto 2011,Toronto 2011
Wrigley Field 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Philadelphia 2, 2013
Philadelphia 1, 2016 Philadelphia 2 2016 New York 2016 New York 2016 Fenway 1, 2016
Fenway 2, 2018
MSG 2022
St. Paul, 1, St. Paul 2 2023
MSG 2024, MSG 2024
Philadelphia 2024
"I play good, hard-nosed basketball.
Things happen in the game. Nothing you
can do. I don't go and say,
"I'm gonna beat this guy up."
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  • SPEEDY MCCREADY
    SPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 26,953
    goose gossage being a hall of famer.....

    is a fucking joke in my opinion......

    he doesnt fucking deserve it....
    Take me piece by piece.....
    Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
  • xavier mcdaniel
    xavier mcdaniel Somewhere in NYC Posts: 9,450
    310 saves is not much but many were of the three-inning variety, which takes three guys these days not to screw up (more often than not they do).
    Reading 2004
    Albany 2006 Camden 2006 E. Rutherford 2, 2006 Inglewood 2006,
    Chicago 2007
    Camden 2008 MSG 2008 MSG 2008 Hartford 2008.
    Seattle 2009 Seattle 2009 Philadelphia 2009,Philadelphia 2009 Philadelphia 2009
    Hartford 2010 MSG 2010 MSG 2010
    Toronto 2011,Toronto 2011
    Wrigley Field 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Philadelphia 2, 2013
    Philadelphia 1, 2016 Philadelphia 2 2016 New York 2016 New York 2016 Fenway 1, 2016
    Fenway 2, 2018
    MSG 2022
    St. Paul, 1, St. Paul 2 2023
    MSG 2024, MSG 2024
    Philadelphia 2024
    "I play good, hard-nosed basketball.
    Things happen in the game. Nothing you
    can do. I don't go and say,
    "I'm gonna beat this guy up."
  • SPEEDY MCCREADY
    SPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 26,953
    xavier mcdaniel wrote:
    310 saves is not much but many were of the three-inning variety, which takes three guys these days not to screw up (more often than not they do).
    i realize for 8-10 years he was a hell of a closer......

    but the hall of fame in my opinion should only be for the elite.....the best of the best....

    not the really fucking good.....
    Take me piece by piece.....
    Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
  • xavier mcdaniel
    xavier mcdaniel Somewhere in NYC Posts: 9,450
    valid point, but is 8-10 years of being a hell of a closer considered elite? i consider it elite, especially in that era before some schmuck was called the seventh-inning guy and the eighth-inning guy.
    Reading 2004
    Albany 2006 Camden 2006 E. Rutherford 2, 2006 Inglewood 2006,
    Chicago 2007
    Camden 2008 MSG 2008 MSG 2008 Hartford 2008.
    Seattle 2009 Seattle 2009 Philadelphia 2009,Philadelphia 2009 Philadelphia 2009
    Hartford 2010 MSG 2010 MSG 2010
    Toronto 2011,Toronto 2011
    Wrigley Field 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Philadelphia 2, 2013
    Philadelphia 1, 2016 Philadelphia 2 2016 New York 2016 New York 2016 Fenway 1, 2016
    Fenway 2, 2018
    MSG 2022
    St. Paul, 1, St. Paul 2 2023
    MSG 2024, MSG 2024
    Philadelphia 2024
    "I play good, hard-nosed basketball.
    Things happen in the game. Nothing you
    can do. I don't go and say,
    "I'm gonna beat this guy up."
  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    speedy do you think eckersley should be in the hall?
  • JSBE
    JSBE Posts: 1,078
    thankfully the 2009 class is weak, so hopefully jim ed gets in next year.
  • SPEEDY MCCREADY
    SPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 26,953
    cutback wrote:
    speedy do you think eckersley should be in the hall?
    absolutley.....

    eck won over 150 games as a starter.....

    and he was the best closer to walk the planet for 8-10 years.....

    390 saves in 10 years as a closer??? FUCK!!!!

    baseball is a game of numbers.....and eckersley blows gossage away.....
    Take me piece by piece.....
    Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
  • Steve Dunne
    Steve Dunne Posts: 4,965
    I think only 1 player getting in this year is crazy. 2 owners, 2 managers, and a former commish, and only 1 player.

    I think Goose got his due, but I also think Jim Rice should be there as well.
    I love to turn you on
  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:
    absolutley.....

    eck won over 150 games as a starter.....

    and he was the best closer to walk the planet for 8-10 years.....

    390 saves in 10 years as a closer??? FUCK!!!!

    baseball is a game of numbers.....and eckersley blows gossage away.....

    just checking....i wanted to gauge who you think belongs in the hall......as for goose, i'm either way on him....he's in fine.....the only problem is that the bar has been lowered so we might see more players like him get in....
  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,168
    cutback wrote:
    speedy do you think eckersley should be in the hall?


    2004 he is in the hall
  • SPEEDY MCCREADY
    SPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 26,953
    cutback wrote:
    just checking....i wanted to gauge who you think belongs in the hall......as for goose, i'm either way on him....he's in fine.....the only problem is that the bar has been lowered so we might see more players like him get in....
    thats just it....

    has the bar been lowered????

    the hall should just be for the ELITE!!!!

    if nobody gets voted in for a few years......then so be it...

    dont lower the standards just to elect someone....
    Take me piece by piece.....
    Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    Get_Right wrote:
    2004 he is in the hall

    i know...i was asking speedy if he should be....didn't phase the question right...:o
  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,168
    Steve Dunne wrote:
    I think only 1 player getting in this year is crazy. 2 owners, 2 managers, and a former commish, and only 1 player.

    I think Goose got his due, but I also think Jim Rice should be there as well.


    Jim's numbers are borderline and the votes reflect

    pretty sure he never was a batting champ and has never won a championship
    even though he was a very good player for a very long time, .280 hitters dont get to the hall without something more.

    by the way Im a sox fan, but he had less than 3000 hits, less than .300 avg, 90 RBI avg., and less than 400 home runs.
    Of course you could look at the converse, more than 2400 hits, etc..
    But quite simply not HOF numbers
  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,168
    cutback wrote:
    just checking....i wanted to gauge who you think belongs in the hall......as for goose, i'm either way on him....he's in fine.....the only problem is that the bar has been lowered so we might see more players like him get in....

    GOOSE helped establish the relievers role in Baseball and was one of the most dominant for a long time.

    Like he said "can you imagine how many more games I could have saved if I only had to pitch one inning? People say Mariano Rivera is the best of all time. I take issue with that."
  • SPEEDY MCCREADY
    SPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 26,953
    Get_Right wrote:
    Jim's numbers are borderline and the votes reflect

    pretty sure he never was a batting champ and has never won a championship
    even though he was a very good player for a very long time, .280 hitters dont get to the hall without something more.

    by the way Im a sox fan, but he had less than 3000 hits, less than .300 avg, 90 RBI avg., and less than 400 home runs.
    Of course you could look at the converse, more than 2400 hits, etc..
    But quite simply not HOF numbers
    8 times he had over 100 rbi
    7 times batted over .300
    Take me piece by piece.....
    Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,168
    SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:
    8 times he had over 100 rbi
    7 times batted over .300

    and I dont think thats enough for the HOF, especially on a team that did not win a championship
  • LONGRD
    LONGRD Posts: 6,036
    The Boston papers recently had a bunch of articles and columns pleading for Jim Rice's voters to get him in the Hall. I think it was in one of Bob Ryan's column awhile back, saying that with all the steroid scandals, Rice's election into the Hall had a great chance in '08. Apparently not yet :(

    by the way, isn't there a 15-year limit after a player's retirement to get in the Hall?
    PJ- 04/29/2003.06/24,25,27,28,30/2008.10/27,28,30,31/2009
    EV- 08/09,10/2008.06/08,09/2009
  • smarchee
    smarchee Windsor, Ontario Posts: 14,539
    how many voted did McGwire get ?
    1998 ~ Barrie
    2003 ~ Toronto
    2005 ~ London, Toronto
    2006 ~ Toronto
    2008 ~ Hartford, Mansfied I,
    2009 ~ Toronto, Chicago I, Chicago II
    2010 ~ Cleveland, Buffalo
    2011 ~ Toronto I, Toronto II, Ottawa, Hamilton
    2013 - London, Pittsburgh, Buffalo
    2014 - Detroit
    2019 - Chicago X 2
  • rearviewmiror
    rearviewmiror Posts: 894
    Last year is the last time before the Veteran's comm. He deserves to be in as he was as dominant as they come during his peak 10 year period.
    9/7/98, 8/3/00, 9/4/00, 4/15/03, 7/1/03, 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 5/24/06, 5/25/06, 6/17/08, 6/22/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 5/17/10, 10/15/13, 10/16/13.
  • SPEEDY MCCREADY
    SPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 26,953
    smarchee wrote:
    how many voted did McGwire get ?
    23%
    Take me piece by piece.....
    Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....

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