This is absolutely heartbreaking. We talked about this before - exes really, REALLY need to go away. Of course this particular example is way beyond that.
This is absolutely heartbreaking. We talked about this before - exes really, REALLY need to go away. Of course this particular example is way beyond that.
Stay strong.
Thanks Fanch. One day at a time. Hopefully we'll get him back soon.
Have you had any luck with the media? I know I'm harping on this but it seems in this day and age they're the best way to get the wheels in motion.
No I haven't. We were advised by an attorney not to do that. She can't know what our plans are or it's going to be really really hard to find her. Already I'm sure she's hiding but I really don't want her to flee the country or something.
Well I have tried the NW justice project, legal aid, and then I just went ahead and e-mailed all 311 family attorneys in Seattle and basically begged them to take this case as either probono or on a sliding scale. (Tommy lost his job recently and wasn't making much at that, he's trying to get another one now) and I don't have the money either for an attorney.
So sadly I think this is just a losing battle and there's nothing we can do. I just looked on her myspace and she's got all these new pictures of Skyler on Easter up. I really hate this woman. :(
Oh I also contacted all those day time TV shows like Montel and Oprah, hoping maybe they would take an interest and help out. Haven't heard a thing yet.
I dunno maybe it's just time to give up. Tommy wants to just go there and take his kid back but I think that's a bad idea bc she's just going to come back and snatch him and we'll go back and forth. Plus the odds are if Tommy does it, he'll get arrested.
Well I have tried the NW justice project, legal aid, and then I just went ahead and e-mailed all 311 family attorneys in Seattle and basically begged them to take this case as either probono or on a sliding scale. (Tommy lost his job recently and wasn't making much at that, he's trying to get another one now) and I don't have the money either for an attorney.
So sadly I think this is just a losing battle and there's nothing we can do. I just looked on her myspace and she's got all these new pictures of Skyler on Easter up. I really hate this woman. :(
Oh I also contacted all those day time TV shows like Montel and Oprah, hoping maybe they would take an interest and help out. Haven't heard a thing yet.
I dunno maybe it's just time to give up. Tommy wants to just go there and take his kid back but I think that's a bad idea bc she's just going to come back and snatch him and we'll go back and forth. Plus the odds are if Tommy does it, he'll get arrested.
They're too busy hanging Imus. I'm sorry Rose. I wish I could help. I can't believe she's posting pictures of the child she kidnapped and the authorities will do nothing. And as you said, if this had been the father (Tommy) he'd be in jail for 2 years before anything would be done.
Well I have tried the NW justice project, legal aid, and then I just went ahead and e-mailed all 311 family attorneys in Seattle and basically begged them to take this case as either probono or on a sliding scale. (Tommy lost his job recently and wasn't making much at that, he's trying to get another one now) and I don't have the money either for an attorney.
So sadly I think this is just a losing battle and there's nothing we can do. I just looked on her myspace and she's got all these new pictures of Skyler on Easter up. I really hate this woman. :(
Oh I also contacted all those day time TV shows like Montel and Oprah, hoping maybe they would take an interest and help out. Haven't heard a thing yet.
I dunno maybe it's just time to give up. Tommy wants to just go there and take his kid back but I think that's a bad idea bc she's just going to come back and snatch him and we'll go back and forth. Plus the odds are if Tommy does it, he'll get arrested.
Rose, you can't give up. I imagine it must be so hard, but this woman CANNOT be allowed to get away with this. I cannot believe her unmitigated gall.
What happened with child welfare (I forget the name of the agency in Seattle?) Can they do anything?
Despite what the attorney said, I would still go the local media--I would imagine this would stir up outrage and maybe someone in the Seattle/Pacific NW area that sees the story can help you. If this woman is in Az she won't see the news in Seattle.
Also maybe try putting a Post on the Porch about this...there are attorneys out there and they might not have seen this thread here in AET. Maybe someone there can help.
And try the Rachael Ray show too--her husband is an attorney also.
We did get Anne served this weekend in Tacoma bc she attended her grandmother's funeral. So she's now in contempt of court and it's just a matter of time I think before we can get him back. Everything takes time. :( She didn't bring Sky to the funeral otherwise we would have him back now. We were going to call the police if we saw him bc now we have signed docs from the court. So at least now she's served and can't get out of this one. We hired someone to do it.... but we were there to point her out.
We did get Anne served this weekend in Tacoma bc she attended her grandmother's funeral. So she's now in contempt of court and it's just a matter of time I think before we can get him back. Everything takes time. :( She didn't bring Sky to the funeral otherwise we would have him back now. We were going to call the police if we saw him bc now we have signed docs from the court. So at least now she's served and can't get out of this one. We hired someone to do it.... but we were there to point her out.
Best of luck!!!
I didnt get a chance to read the first post before it was erased, but this sounds so crazy.
I've heard (and I may be wrong) that pharmacys can look up info for anyone (in the US) no matter who they are. That they just type in a name - and poof, health/medical info comes up. If this is true - I'd bet that this system also has home address info.
...so if anyone here works for a pharmacy, and if this is accurate info I'm giving, perhaps someone can PM WildChildRose to offer assistance.
Ps: get a restraining order once you catch 'em!
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I didnt get a chance to read the first post before it was erased, but this sounds so crazy.
I've heard (and I may be wrong) that pharmacys can look up info for anyone (in the US) no matter who they are. That they just type in a name - and poof, health/medical info comes up. If this is true - I'd bet that this system also has home address info.
...so if anyone here works for a pharmacy, and if this is accurate info I'm giving, perhaps someone can PM WildChildRose to offer assistance.
Ps: get a restraining order once you catch 'em!
No one who works for a pharmacy can give out patient information, it violates HIPAA confidentiality laws.
Rose, that is good news. I'm glad to hear it..Hang in there and keep us posted.
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and Metsy!
I know so I changed my name on myspace too. Hopefully she's not smart enough to look into what I'm up to.
so - she was served. Does that mean after a month or two, if she doesnt show up to court, she gets arrested on site, when found? Or would that help you get an Amber Alert?
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so - she was served. Does that mean after a month or two, if she doesnt show up to court, she gets arrested on site, when found? Or would that help you get an Amber Alert?
I don't really know what is going to happen next. She's already in contempt of court and I know that holds jail time. I think we have to give her a chance to show up at court. And at that time she should have to hand over Skyler. So we'll see what happens. I have a feeling she won't show up... as usual. And hopefully we can get a warrant then.
I don't really know what is going to happen next. She's already in contempt of court and I know that holds jail time. I think we have to give her a chance to show up at court. And at that time she should have to hand over Skyler. So we'll see what happens. I have a feeling she won't show up... as usual. And hopefully we can get a warrant then.
Best of luck with this!
Hopefully a warrant will permit them to look up her address from the database of drivers, or however they can find her.
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Thanks again. I talked to the father of the other little boy and it doesn't seem he's supporting her at all. So I think I had that wrong. He told me she hasn't even enrolled him in school yet so I guess he is going to lose a year. Terrible. I don't think she has a drivers license. She's not the type to do anything the right way. The one way we could get her is when she applies for welfare bc that's a for sure going to happen.
You are in a great position now that she is served. I am hoping and praying for the best and that you get this child back soon! Please keep us updated!
Just wanted everyone to know we got Skyler back! Thanks to everyone's support and well wishes on here!
Basically we had to jump through many many hoops. We did some slick detective work to get her many addresses. We FINALLY found her near the border of Nevada. So we had to take 4 days off work to accomplish this but it was well worth it. The sheriffs and courts in AZ were awesome.
Yes we are sooo relieved. I burst out into tears when the sheriff brought him out. He was really scared and crying bc he had woken up from his nap.
Here's the bad.... when we took him to the hotel for the night and I was changing him... noticed his butt is covered in black and blues. NOT COOL AT ALL. I was furious. And now whenever we say, no don't do that, he literally flinches. He never ever did that before and we never ever hit him.
So now we fight to keep her away from him. And hope the other son gets taken away too. He's been out of school for 2 months now. Just terrible.
BUT the good... Skyler is super super happy with us. He's been smiling and laughing and singing. He sat back there saying "Mommy, daddy, mommy, daddy" over and over again while we drove back to WA. It was way too cute. And he called me Mommy after only 10 minutes of having him back. He hasn't cried for her or asked about her or anything. Just shows they had no attachment.
Thanks again everyone and I'll have pics soon of all of us.
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This is what the first link said when I e-mailed a few people off of it:
Hello Rosalie,
Neither the Washington State Bar Association, nor its Pro Bono and Legal Aid Committee provide legal assistance. Please call 1 888 201-1014.
Thank you.
I just tried the number since I'm on lunch now. (I can't make any calls otherwise) and they are closed! Only open from 9 am to 12:30 pm. AHHH.
I dunno, I'm feeling really frustrated right now. I think I need to not think about this. :(
This is absolutely heartbreaking. We talked about this before - exes really, REALLY need to go away. Of course this particular example is way beyond that.
Stay strong.
Thanks Fanch. One day at a time. Hopefully we'll get him back soon.
No I haven't. We were advised by an attorney not to do that. She can't know what our plans are or it's going to be really really hard to find her. Already I'm sure she's hiding but I really don't want her to flee the country or something.
And, don't think any of this is a waste of time. Like it's been said, you never know who you might reach that can help you.
Prayers and positive thoughts!
So sadly I think this is just a losing battle and there's nothing we can do. I just looked on her myspace and she's got all these new pictures of Skyler on Easter up. I really hate this woman. :(
Oh I also contacted all those day time TV shows like Montel and Oprah, hoping maybe they would take an interest and help out. Haven't heard a thing yet.
I dunno maybe it's just time to give up. Tommy wants to just go there and take his kid back but I think that's a bad idea bc she's just going to come back and snatch him and we'll go back and forth. Plus the odds are if Tommy does it, he'll get arrested.
They're too busy hanging Imus. I'm sorry Rose. I wish I could help. I can't believe she's posting pictures of the child she kidnapped and the authorities will do nothing. And as you said, if this had been the father (Tommy) he'd be in jail for 2 years before anything would be done.
Rose, you can't give up. I imagine it must be so hard, but this woman CANNOT be allowed to get away with this. I cannot believe her unmitigated gall.
What happened with child welfare (I forget the name of the agency in Seattle?) Can they do anything?
Despite what the attorney said, I would still go the local media--I would imagine this would stir up outrage and maybe someone in the Seattle/Pacific NW area that sees the story can help you. If this woman is in Az she won't see the news in Seattle.
Also maybe try putting a Post on the Porch about this...there are attorneys out there and they might not have seen this thread here in AET. Maybe someone there can help.
And try the Rachael Ray show too--her husband is an attorney also.
http://www.rachaelrayshow.com/?q=contact-rr
Stay strong Rose, it will work out somehow
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6/25/08
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and Metsy!
We did get Anne served this weekend in Tacoma bc she attended her grandmother's funeral. So she's now in contempt of court and it's just a matter of time I think before we can get him back. Everything takes time. :( She didn't bring Sky to the funeral otherwise we would have him back now. We were going to call the police if we saw him bc now we have signed docs from the court. So at least now she's served and can't get out of this one. We hired someone to do it.... but we were there to point her out.
Best of luck!!!
I didnt get a chance to read the first post before it was erased, but this sounds so crazy.
I've heard (and I may be wrong) that pharmacys can look up info for anyone (in the US) no matter who they are. That they just type in a name - and poof, health/medical info comes up. If this is true - I'd bet that this system also has home address info.
...so if anyone here works for a pharmacy, and if this is accurate info I'm giving, perhaps someone can PM WildChildRose to offer assistance.
Ps: get a restraining order once you catch 'em!
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No one who works for a pharmacy can give out patient information, it violates HIPAA confidentiality laws.
Rose, that is good news. I'm glad to hear it..Hang in there and keep us posted.
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6/25/08
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and Metsy!
Thanks everyone and I'll keep you posted!
oh! Becareful! If she knows you use WildChildRose - she can google that and bring up AET too!!
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so - she was served. Does that mean after a month or two, if she doesnt show up to court, she gets arrested on site, when found? Or would that help you get an Amber Alert?
*NYC 9/28/96 *NYC 9/29/96 *NJ 9/8/98 (front row "may i play drums with you")
*MSG 9/10/98 (backstage) *MSG 9/11/98 (backstage)
*Jones Beach 8/23/00 *Jones Beach 8/24/00 *Jones Beach 8/25/00
*Mansfield 8/29/00 *Mansfield 8/30/00 *Nassau 4/30/03 *Nissan VA 7/1/03
*Borgata 10/1/05 *Camden 5/27/06 *Camden 5/28/06 *DC 5/30/06
*VA Beach 6/17/08 *DC 6/22/08 *MSG 6/24/08 (backstage) *MSG 6/25/08
*EV DC 8/17/08 *EV Baltimore 6/15/09 *Philly 10/31/09
*Bristow VA 5/13/10 *MSG 5/20/10 *MSG 5/21/10
I don't really know what is going to happen next. She's already in contempt of court and I know that holds jail time. I think we have to give her a chance to show up at court. And at that time she should have to hand over Skyler. So we'll see what happens. I have a feeling she won't show up... as usual. And hopefully we can get a warrant then.
Best of luck with this!
Hopefully a warrant will permit them to look up her address from the database of drivers, or however they can find her.
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*MSG 9/10/98 (backstage) *MSG 9/11/98 (backstage)
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*Mansfield 8/29/00 *Mansfield 8/30/00 *Nassau 4/30/03 *Nissan VA 7/1/03
*Borgata 10/1/05 *Camden 5/27/06 *Camden 5/28/06 *DC 5/30/06
*VA Beach 6/17/08 *DC 6/22/08 *MSG 6/24/08 (backstage) *MSG 6/25/08
*EV DC 8/17/08 *EV Baltimore 6/15/09 *Philly 10/31/09
*Bristow VA 5/13/10 *MSG 5/20/10 *MSG 5/21/10
Just wanted everyone to know we got Skyler back! Thanks to everyone's support and well wishes on here!
Basically we had to jump through many many hoops. We did some slick detective work to get her many addresses. We FINALLY found her near the border of Nevada. So we had to take 4 days off work to accomplish this but it was well worth it. The sheriffs and courts in AZ were awesome.
Here's a picture of him coming home.
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a59/WildChildR/SKYLERback.jpg
Y'all must feel so relieved!
Here's the bad.... when we took him to the hotel for the night and I was changing him... noticed his butt is covered in black and blues. NOT COOL AT ALL. I was furious. And now whenever we say, no don't do that, he literally flinches. He never ever did that before and we never ever hit him.
So now we fight to keep her away from him. And hope the other son gets taken away too. He's been out of school for 2 months now. Just terrible.
BUT the good... Skyler is super super happy with us. He's been smiling and laughing and singing. He sat back there saying "Mommy, daddy, mommy, daddy" over and over again while we drove back to WA. It was way too cute. And he called me Mommy after only 10 minutes of having him back. He hasn't cried for her or asked about her or anything. Just shows they had no attachment.
Thanks again everyone and I'll have pics soon of all of us.
You both must be so relieved.
On a side note....I would take photos of where he is black and blue in case she ever tries to go to court to get him back again.
This is such a GREAT ending to a tradgic story.
...Can you press charges against her for the beatings?
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