'Sopranos' final season to begin April 8

NY PJ1

AllNiteThing wrote:

And the choice of song isn't just coincidence... 'the movie never ends, it goes on and on and on....' i.e. the Soprano life continues, we just don't get to see it.

that tops it off

moeaholic

AllNiteThing wrote:

And the choice of song isn't just coincidence... 'the movie never ends, it goes on and on and on....' i.e. the Soprano life continues, we just don't get to see it.

not to mention, if there was a hit out on tony, how the hell would they know to go there? how many times have we seen tony at that place in the entire series? and you can't say the guy that went to the bathroom followed him there because he was already there for a while, he was eating at the counter when tony sat down.

rrivers

moeaholic wrote:

not to mention, if there was a hit out on tony, how the hell would they know to go there? how many times have we seen tony at that place in the entire series? and you can't say the guy that went to the bathroom followed him there because he was already there for a while, he was eating at the counter when tony sat down.

Um, follow him?

Just because we have never seen him there, doesn't mean they never went there. When Carmela was talking about it with Tony and AJ, it sounded like a place they had been many times.

Atomic Punk

moeaholic wrote:

not to mention, if there was a hit out on tony, how the hell would they know to go there? how many times have we seen tony at that place in the entire series? and you can't say the guy that went to the bathroom followed him there because he was already there for a while, he was eating at the counter when tony sat down.

He was not eating at the counter when Tony sat down. He walked in at the same time as AJ.

NCBRI

moeaholic wrote:

not to mention, if there was a hit out on tony, how the hell would they know to go there? how many times have we seen tony at that place in the entire series? and you can't say the guy that went to the bathroom followed him there because he was already there for a while, he was eating at the counter when tony sat down.

Members Only jacket comes in just in front of AJ.

Oops, a little late on my response there.

rrivers

This article makes it sound like more was going on rather than just them having dinner.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19178593/

They must have checked this thread before writing this article:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19177013/

rrivers

Agent Harris quoted here:

http://www.abcnews.go.com/WN/Story?id=3267872&page=1

He says that in the script the scene was longer and Meadow actually came in and sat down.

I appreciate the ending because all the talk about it has been fun, but I would really like to know what Chase's intention with the scene was.

Garden Dogg

rrivers wrote:

Um, follow him?

Just because we have never seen him there, doesn't mean they never went there. When Carmela was talking about it with Tony and AJ, it sounded like a place they had been many times.

yeah...tony had already brought the family back home, so it wouldn't be out of the realm for him to be followed. and he did mention that holsten's had the best onion rings in the state as far as he was concerned. so that tells me that he had been there before.

norm

the final scene reminded me of the end of the first season.....just the family having dinner.....life goes on....:)

AllNiteThing

cutback wrote:

the final scene reminded me of the end of the first season.....just the family having dinner.....life goes on....:)

..and on and on and on......street lights, people...


Nevermind.

AllNiteThing

Here's an interesting question:

What song would YOU have picked for the end? How about which PJ song??

moeaholic

Atomic Punk wrote:

He was not eating at the counter when Tony sat down. He walked in at the same time as AJ.

really? i could have sworn he was already eating something at the counter. my bad. i've only watched it once.

that being said, i still don't believe tony was killed.

NY PJ1

AllNiteThing wrote:

..and on and on and on......street lights, people...


Nevermind.

haha they will never get it

Gary Carter

AllNiteThing wrote:

..and on and on and on......street lights, people...


Nevermind.

Living just to find emotion

nowayimfaithfull

MasterFramer wrote:

See I didn't think that was funny at all... it was awkward and didn't make sense, shouldn't she be supportive given the situation?

No, not at all, if you payed attention to the series and all the small stuff you would know that she holds that whole situation against tony, as quoted by t.
She married him under false pretense

nowayimfaithfull

Chase did what he wanted.
The people that watched it for mob related stuff feel he is dead, the fans that like all the non mob interests prob think he is alive, 4 days later it is still an even split to me know matter how I slice it up.
Even the songs lyrics which had me convinced he was alive have made me see it from the other side.
Maybee tony feeling secure was a sarcastic ploy with dont stop belevin, maybee he did and it caught up to him all to soon. Maybee life going on and on regardless of his killer acts or without him is the point.
Paying anything to roll the dice just 1 more time.
That song could be about someoen who lost the game.
As far as pj there is a perfect song with 2 ways of looking at life and death.
Hold on
This song after allnights question is what pushed me into thinking that it has been right there the whole time
There is always 2 ways to look at something.
Also after his article on the music being the driving force, the scene with paulie and tony waiting for the agent is sarcastic.
The song emphasizes a loving conversation between good friend and enjoying time as paulie complains, and we all know how tony felt about paulie, he sure as hell did anything but enjoy paulies company, he almost got offed for it.
Very contreversial ending.
For chase to say its all there is being a smart ass.
It is all there for a casual fan,
its also all over the place for us anxiety driven diehards.

sweetpotato

MasterFramer wrote:

See I didn't think that was funny at all... it was awkward and didn't make sense, shouldn't she be supportive given the situation?

no, b/c the session wasn't about tony, it was about a.j.

Taft

New comments from an HBO spokesman:

http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/TV/06/15/television.sopranos.reut/index.html

Anon

Taft wrote:

New comments from an HBO spokesman:

http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/TV/06/15/television.sopranos.reut/index.html

I know its an endless debate that will "go on and on and on and on", but I still think Tony died in the end as I said before for just this very reason....

Thanks for the link.

"The jarring, fill-in-the-blank finale, concluding a show widely hailed as America's greatest television drama, sparked a furious debate about whether Chase had conceived of an actual ending and whether he left the audience any clues.

The biggest hint, according to a consensus taking shape on the Web, is a scene from an earlier episode in which Tony and his brother-in-law, Bobby "Bacala" Baccalieri, muse about what it feels like to die.

"At the end, you probably don't hear anything, everything just goes black," Bobby says while they sit fishing in a small boat on a lake.

That scene is recalled briefly in a flashback played at the end of the penultimate "Sopranos" episode, as Tony is lying in the darkened room of a safehouse clutching a machine gun to his chest in the midst of a mob war.

"I think that is one of the most legitimate things to look at," Schaffer said when asked about theories that the Bobby Bacala flashback was meant to foreshadow Tony's death.

Moreover, he said the man in the "Members Only" jacket could be interpreted as a symbolic reference to membership in the mob. "Members Only" also was the title of the episode in which Tony's demented Uncle Junior shoots him in the gut".

MasterFramer

Yeah he's dead...