Lost: Season 4 (no spoilers)

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  • Solat13
    Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    tkepearljamn wrote:
    That was awesome

    Yep, show keeps getting better.

    I can't wait till June till I get to go back to the Island (well ranch where they film Lost.)
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • Riverrunner
    Riverrunner Posts: 2,419
    Not as good as last week. Desmond is much more appealing than Juliet.
    The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way it treats its animals. Ghandi
  • nfanel
    nfanel Posts: 2,558
    Riverrunner wrote:
    Not as good as last week. Desmond is much more appealing than Juliet.
    yeah, i was not a fan of tonight's show at all. thought it was a weak episode and didn't like seeing ben acting so pathetic running for his ham and whatnot.
  • Solat13
    Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    Riverrunner wrote:
    Not as good as last week. Desmond is much more appealing than Juliet.

    I can see that, but as one of the few Juliet fans on this thread I was really happy plus I loved her line about it "Being really stressful being an Other."

    I guess I also was thrilled because all of the main locations - the new Dharma station, where Goodwin died, the stream where Kate got hit in the head I've been to. It was like I was having a flashback watching this episode.
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • Riverrunner
    Riverrunner Posts: 2,419
    Solat13 wrote:
    I can see that, but as one of the few Juliet fans on this thread I was really happy plus I loved her line about it "Being really stressful being an Other."

    Yeah, that was good.

    What's the deal with her saying Ben wanted her to kill them? How was he communicating with her? Or did she just know that he wanted them dead?
    The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way it treats its animals. Ghandi
  • Solat13
    Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    Riverrunner wrote:
    Yeah, that was good.

    What's the deal with her saying Ben wanted her to kill them? How was he communicating with her? Or did she just know that he wanted them dead?

    Like Harper, the therapist said, Ben always has a plan. Ben is in such total control with the Locke situation. I don't think Ben is communicating with them, but I have a feeling he had a failsafe plan in case he didn't contact the rest of his people by a certain deadline.

    It was cool hearing the whispers again and seeing one of the Others appear and disappear like they used to.

    Ben would rather kill everyone on the island than let the island be taken over by someone else.
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • nfanel
    nfanel Posts: 2,558
    Riverrunner wrote:
    Yeah, that was good.

    What's the deal with her saying Ben wanted her to kill them? How was he communicating with her? Or did she just know that he wanted them dead?
    harper told juliet that ben wanted her to kill them to keep them away from the station. remember juliet asked how she'd keep them away from the station and harper told her use her gun...

    edit: p.s. i'm assuming she was real and not just part of the whispers since jack also saw/interacted with her.... of course who knows. :)
  • Solat13
    Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    I thought it was interesting that Ben taped over the Red Sox World Series victory with the tape of Widmore. That means that the tape he and Locke watched was just recently taped. I wonder if Mikhail got that tape before Locke blew up the Flame or if there is another observation station we don't know about.

    How did Ben get a camera in that random parking lot to capture Widmore? Or was there another one's of Ben's people who filmed the beating?

    Btw the look on Sawyer's face seeing Ben walking around was priceless. How many lives does Ben have? It seems like everytime he looks like he has no options left he gets Locke to release him. I also think that Juliet now never leaves the Island because Ben would never let her.
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • dirtyT
    dirtyT Posts: 3,620
    Solat13 wrote:
    I thought it was interesting that Ben taped over the Red Sox World Series victory with the tape of Widmore. That means that the tape he and Locke watched was just recently taped. I wonder if Mikhail got that tape before Locke blew up the Flame or if there is another observation station we don't know about.

    How did Ben get a camera in that random parking lot to capture Widmore? Or was there another one's of Ben's people who filmed the beating?

    Btw the look on Sawyer's face seeing Ben walking around was priceless. How many lives does Ben have? It seems like everytime he looks like he has no options left he gets Locke to release him. I also think that Juliet now never leaves the Island because Ben would never let her.
    i bet Ben will end up killing Juliette.
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  • pineapplesandwaves
    pineapplesandwaves Posts: 584
    nfanel wrote:
    yeah, i was not a fan of tonight's show at all. thought it was a weak episode and didn't like seeing ben acting so pathetic running for his ham and whatnot.
    It's hard to follow last week's episode. I thought it started out slow, but it picked up. It was cool to find out where Charles Widmore is starting to fit into things with the island; although, I wonder how he knows about the island. I felt teased. I thought we were going to hear who Ben's insider on the boat is. I guess we'll have to wait, yet again. :)
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  • rrivers
    rrivers Posts: 3,698
    pineapplesandwaves wrote:
    It's hard to follow last week's episode. I thought it started out slow, but it picked up. It was cool to find out where Charles Widmore is starting to fit into things with the island; although, I wonder how he knows about the island. I felt teased. I thought we were going to hear who Ben's insider on the boat is. I guess we'll have to wait, yet again. :)

    Yeah I really dug the Widmore part. It looked like Widmore might have known he was being taped with the way he looked right at the camera at the end.

    I liked this episode better than last week's. I didn't care for last week's until the end with Penny and Desmond talking on the phone.

    The one thing about this week I thought was lame was that they didn't have Ben tell who his person on the boat was. I was way into that part and was dying to hear who his person is. My guess is Michael.

    Also looks like the eighth episode will air before the break.

    Here's a link with very minor spoilers (ie who the 8th episode is about):

    http://www.aintitcool.com/node/35866
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  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,868
    Riverrunner wrote:
    Yeah, that was good.

    What's the deal with her saying Ben wanted her to kill them? How was he communicating with her? Or did she just know that he wanted them dead?
    I'm assuming Harper wasn't really Harper, but an apparition like so many have seen before, cause she disappeared awful fast...though Jack saw her, so who knows. So was she "sent" by Jacob, by Ben, by the smoke monster? Whoever sent her wanted Faraday stopped so that the island would have its defense system in tact against Widmore or whoever.
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  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,868
    Poncier wrote:
    Yeah Charles Widmore won the auction for the log from the Black Rock.
    On this show there are no coincidences, so I think that Widmore is way involved in the island.
    Hmmmm....could be.
    And in the auction they mentioned the Black Rock's journey was commissioned by someone named Hanso.
    In the pop up video replay they said the donor of the log, Tovar Hanso, was a distant relative of Boom (OK I forgot the first name) Hanso, the captain of the Black Rock, and also a distant relative of Alvar Hanso, benefactor of the Dharma Initiative.
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  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,868
    Solat13 wrote:
    Or was there another one's of Ben's people who filmed the beating?
    Thats the impression I got, it wasn't a stationary camera, angles changed, and when Chuckles Widmore looked up directly into the camera the video ended, like the person filming was like "Oh shit, gotta go..."
    Btw the look on Sawyer's face seeing Ben walking around was priceless. How many lives does Ben have? It seems like everytime he looks like he has no options left he gets Locke to release him.
    "See you at dinner." :D


    And did you notice Juliet "lied" again by abandoning Jack in the jungle? ;) Lying bitch. :D

    And that kiss looked so forced and uncomfortable.
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  • Riverrunner
    Riverrunner Posts: 2,419
    nfanel wrote:
    harper told juliet that ben wanted her to kill them to keep them away from the station. remember juliet asked how she'd keep them away from the station and harper told her use her gun...

    edit: p.s. i'm assuming she was real and not just part of the whispers since jack also saw/interacted with her.... of course who knows. :)


    doh! Forgot all about that.

    I also assume that she was real. The Others have to be somewhere hanging out.
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  • Riverrunner
    Riverrunner Posts: 2,419
    Poncier wrote:
    I'm assuming Harper wasn't really Harper, but an apparition like so many have seen before, cause she disappeared awful fast...though Jack saw her, so who knows. So was she "sent" by Jacob, by Ben, by the smoke monster? Whoever sent her wanted Faraday stopped so that the island would have its defense system in tact against Widmore or whoever.

    I figured she was real, but then again.....

    I am anxious to find out where the Others went and what they are doing. Who is leading them now? Where is Alex, Carl, and Danielle? I can't imagine Danielle being all touchy feely with the Others since she seemed to be fighting them previously.
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  • dirtyT
    dirtyT Posts: 3,620
    Riverrunner wrote:
    I figured she was real, but then again.....

    I am anxious to find out where the Others went and what they are doing. Who is leading them now? Where is Alex, Carl, and Danielle? I can't imagine Danielle being all touchy feely with the Others since she seemed to be fighting them previously.
    The others are on their way to the temple.

    I thought that Alex, Carl, and Danielle were with Locke.

    I wander how Ben told her that stuff. I thought she wasn't real because if she was, how did Ben tell her all that stuff when he is locked up?
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  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,868
    dirtyT wrote:
    I thought she wasn't real because if she was, how did Ben tell her all that stuff when he is locked up?
    That was my thought, combined with the whispers before she appeared and after she disappeared right before Jack and Liar's eyes. The only thing that makes it possible she was real was Jack interacting with her or it.
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  • dirtyT
    dirtyT Posts: 3,620
    Poncier wrote:
    That was my thought, combined with the whispers before she appeared and after she disappeared right before Jack and Liar's eyes. The only thing that makes it possible she was real was Jack interacting with her or it.
    YOU SAID LIAR!!! HA!!

    Well, Locke interacted with Walt, but was he really there? I bet we will find out that maybe Juliette killed or something. I mean, Juliette told Jack, "Trust me, you don't want to see my file", where having an affair is a terrible thing IMO, that comment was leading me to believe that we were going to find out something very crazy about her past. Maybe we still will.
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  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,868
    dirtyT wrote:
    YOU SAID LIAR!!! HA!!

    Well, Locke interacted with Walt, but was he really there? I bet we will find out that maybe Juliette killed or something. I mean, Juliette told Jack, "Trust me, you don't want to see my file", where having an affair is a terrible thing IMO, that comment was leading me to believe that we were going to find out something very crazy about her past. Maybe we still will.
    Yeah I had the thought that maybe Liar killed HarperValleyPTA.

    As far as Locke interacting with Walt...lots of Losties have interacted with "ghosts"...Eko with his brother for example..but its the introduction of a second person (in this case Jack) interacting with a possible "ghost" intended for another person that makes me wonder...usually I think only the person that Jacob/Benry/Smokemonster/Island (whoever is responsible for these visions) wants to see the "ghost" sees it.
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