Lost: Season 4 (no spoilers)

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  • Solat13Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    Not sure what you guys are thinking, but I like this episode a lot right now.
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • Solat13Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    Quiet here tonight, but I'm a big fan of Desmond's storyline and it was great to see him finally get in touch with Penny.
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • RiverrunnerRiverrunner Posts: 2,419
    Solat13 wrote:
    Quiet here tonight, but I'm a big fan of Desmond's storyline and it was great to see him finally get in touch with Penny.

    Best part of the whole show.

    I am still trying to put all the other pieces together in my head.
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  • RiverrunnerRiverrunner Posts: 2,419
    So who sabatoged the boat? Somebody who didn't want the island to be found. Ben's contact?

    So it appears as if rescue may not be imminent. If there are no communications, and the boat is lost in the island time warp, force field, whatever..... all of the boat people may very well end up on the island too.
    The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way it treats its animals. Ghandi
  • Solat13 wrote:
    Not sure what you guys are thinking, but I like this episode a lot right now.
    Solat13 wrote:
    Quiet here tonight, but I'm a big fan of Desmond's storyline and it was great to see him finally get in touch with Penny.
    I loved tonight's episode! Not only was it great that he and Penny finally get in touch, but the way they are able to make contact was awesome! I love how Desmond becomes Farraday's constant.

    I'm so happy I got back into Lost this season.

    My Sawyer nickname is Moonbeam.
    No time to be void or save up on life. You got to spend it all.
  • So who sabatoged the boat? Somebody who didn't want the island to be found. Ben's contact?

    So it appears as if rescue may not be imminent. If there are no communications, and the boat is lost in the island time warp, force field, whatever..... all of the boat people may very well end up on the island too.
    I thought it must have been Ben's contact. I wonder if there are many more people on the boat. I don't know why, but I was expecting the freighter to be much larger than it was.
    No time to be void or save up on life. You got to spend it all.
  • So who sabatoged the boat? Somebody who didn't want the island to be found. Ben's contact?

    So it appears as if rescue may not be imminent. If there are no communications, and the boat is lost in the island time warp, force field, whatever..... all of the boat people may very well end up on the island too.


    bens contact didnt sabotage the boat, im pretty sure he helped sayid and desmond cus i believe the help on the boat has been on the island before. the twist with faraday (spell?) in the end was cool but i cant like make it work in my head, i mean, i cant make the question i want to make. two episodes left till the break and this show is driving me crazy.
  • Solat13Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    So who sabatoged the boat? Somebody who didn't want the island to be found. Ben's contact?

    So it appears as if rescue may not be imminent. If there are no communications, and the boat is lost in the island time warp, force field, whatever..... all of the boat people may very well end up on the island too.

    I agree with you on both points.

    It's also a pretty small boat. It sure took awhile for the people on the freighter to respond to the alarm which makes me think that's a pretty small operation on there to begin with and now two crew members are dead.
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • Solat13Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    bens contact didnt sabotage the boat, im pretty sure he helped sayid and desmond cus i believe the help on the boat has been on the island before. the twist with faraday (spell?) in the end was cool but i cant like make it work in my head, i mean, i cant make the question i want to make. two episodes left till the break and this show is driving me crazy.

    Time travel is the hardest thing to pull off on tv and movies. I think they did a good job of it tonight and yeah I liked Farraday's little notebook as well.

    The thing is if Farrady met Desmond in the past wouldn't he have recognized him when he saw him a last week.

    And as for two episodes left, ABC might run the 8th episode before the break as well. I read something on tvguide that they want to air the finale before Memorial Day so it counts more towards their ratings because if they ran 6 episodes after the break the finale would be May 29th.
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • dirtyTdirtyT Posts: 3,620
    Solat13 wrote:
    It could be worse. My buddy at work got Sugarpop. You better believe that's what we've been calling him the last couple of days. ;)
    that makes me feel better, thanks!
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  • dirtyTdirtyT Posts: 3,620
    i think Michael is the man on the boat.

    And what about the auction? The picture of "THE BLACK PEARL" that was lost at sea in the 1800's? The Black Pearl is Russo's boat! What was that all about? Did they time travel as well?
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  • Sea wrote:
    Please do not post spoiler text. Linking to spoilers with a warning so people can decide if they want to read it is ok. Thanks.

    Peace,
    Sea


    Sea,

    Feel free to post with us on you interpretations of the show too. It has to be kinda fun (and Im sure grueling) to mod a board of pj fan "Lost" nerds like us.

    rock out with your sock out and thanks for all the help over the years,

    DJ
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  • tybirdtybird Posts: 17,388
    dirtyT wrote:
    i think Michael is the man on the boat.

    And what about the auction? The picture of "THE BLACK PEARL" that was lost at sea in the 1800's? The Black Pearl is Russo's boat! What was that all about? Did they time travel as well?
    That was really cool....didn't Penny's father win the 1st mate's log.....hint of a connection?????

    "Monga"??? What kinda nick name is that???? :rolleyes:
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  • tybird wrote:
    That was really cool....didn't Penny's father win the 1st mate's log.....hint of a connection?????

    "Monga"??? What kinda nick name is that???? :rolleyes:


    It wasn't Rousso's boat though? It was the "jimmy walker" boat.
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  • tybirdtybird Posts: 17,388
    It wasn't Rousso's boat though? It was the "jimmy walker" boat.
    Yes, it was the slave ship where the dynamite was kept.
    All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
  • jimmy walker said dynamite.

    But rousso was on the survey boat? right? Not the slave ship. I agree that the boat from the auction was the boat with the dynamite. What was her boat called?
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  • Solat13Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    jimmy walker said dynamite.

    But rousso was on the survey boat? right? Not the slave ship. I agree that the boat from the auction was the boat with the dynamite. What was her boat called?

    I don't think Rousseau's boat name has been revealed. But the slave ship is the Black Rock.
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • rriversrrivers Posts: 3,698
    dirtyT wrote:
    i feel really weird about mine, it was munchkin.

    Mine was Prince Charles.
    "We're fixed good, lamp-wise."
  • Solat13Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    So was the sickness that killed Rousseau's crew and the sickness that has been referred to on the island since the beginning have to do with what killed Minkowski tonight and what affected Desmond?

    It seems Farraday was aware of it and that's why he had Desmond's name written in his journal.
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • I don't know how familiar you guys are with Kurt Vonnegut, but I'm a huge fan, and it was really cool to see a character on one of my favourite shows become "unstuck in time." Also, the second time Desmond became unstuck in time, he had a conversation with a fellow army member named Billy, an obvious reference to Vonnegut's character Billy Pilgrim, who became unstuck in time in Slaughterhouse-Five.

    Also, I love this thread, I check it all the time and I'll probably be posting in here more often from now on. You guys come up with some great theories!

    edit: My Sawyer nickname is Picasso
    “Hello, babies. Welcome to Earth. It’s hot in the summer and cold in the winter. It’s round and wet and crowded. At the outside, babies, you’ve got about a hundred years here. There’s only one rule that I know of, babies — ‘God damn it, you’ve got to be kind.’” - Kurt Vonnegut
  • wow tonite episode was awesome. i believe the term is "mindfuck"
    i read lostpedia and that is a recurrent theme. but i usually read lostpedia about 2 days later just to make sure i didnt miss anything. never for spoilers.

    but i did read the next two of the oceanic six..
    a)the smoke monster. turns out he was from the coach section.
    B) bruce willis. turns out he was dead the whole time.. (what a twist!)

    anyone else think penny is pretty in a not pretty way. actually i have a really hard time liking penny because she reminds me of heather mills.
    mean people suck!
    but nice people sw****w

  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 17,185
    Solat13 wrote:

    The thing is if Farrady met Desmond in the past wouldn't he have recognized him when he saw him a last week.

    .
    I think the card thing the week before (and possibly when 1996 Desmond asked him "what about your head?" when Faraday put on the radiation apron)set up that Faraday may have some memory issues, therefore might have forgotten about the meeting with Des.

    Either that or it didn't happen in his past until this occured and "changed" his past (one of those time travel conundrum things), and thats why he finds the passage about Desmond Hume being his constant in his journal which may not have been there before.
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  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 17,185
    tybird wrote:
    That was really cool....didn't Penny's father win the 1st mate's log.....hint of a connection?????
    Yeah Charles Widmore won the auction for the log from the Black Rock.
    On this show there are no coincidences, so I think that Widmore is way involved in the island.

    And in the auction they mentioned the Black Rock's journey was commissioned by someone named Hanso.
    This weekend we rock Portland
  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 17,185
    dirtyT wrote:

    And what about the auction? The picture of "THE BLACK PEARL" that was lost at sea in the 1800's? The Black Pearl is Russo's boat!

    :D
    Captain of the Black Pearl

    Pillager of the Black Rock

    Got our ships a tad mixed up?
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  • Poncier wrote:
    Either that or it didn't happen in his past until this occured and "changed" his past (one of those time travel conundrum things), and thats why he finds the passage about Desmond Hume being his constant in his journal which may not have been there before.
    That's what I figured. I don't know if Faraday's (or Penny's, for that matter) memory will begin to alter to include new events in the past (was it a coincidence that Penny was home with the same phone number on Christmas Eve or did she remember their encounter?), but when Faraday and Desmond met on the island, that was the first time they had met, so there wouldn't be any familiarity, at the time. The past hadn't changed until after this meeting. Also, as someone mentioned, time travel is difficult to pull off on tv and movies, so there will be inconsistencies.
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  • dirtyTdirtyT Posts: 3,620
    tybird wrote:
    Yes, it was the slave ship where the dynamite was kept.
    HA-HA!!!! Good stuff.
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  • tybirdtybird Posts: 17,388
    Poncier wrote:
    And in the auction they mentioned the Black Rock's journey was commissioned by someone named Hanso.
    Time travel or immortality???? or a family with a long, strange history???
    All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
  • dirtyTdirtyT Posts: 3,620
    Poncier wrote:
    I do!! Ha, I meant the Black Rock!!
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  • dirtyTdirtyT Posts: 3,620
    Solat13 wrote:
    So was the sickness that killed Rousseau's crew and the sickness that has been referred to on the island since the beginning have to do with what killed Minkowski tonight and what affected Desmond?

    It seems Farraday was aware of it and that's why he had Desmond's name written in his journal.
    Great therory!!!

    Sorry for all of my posts in a row, I am catching uo to everyone!!
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  • tybirdtybird Posts: 17,388
    Solat13 wrote:
    So was the sickness that killed Rousseau's crew and the sickness that has been referred to on the island since the beginning have to do with what killed Minkowski tonight and what affected Desmond?

    It seems Farraday was aware of it and that's why he had Desmond's name written in his journal.
    Another great theory. Strange that it has been more widespread among the Oceanic crowd.
    All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
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