Lost: Season 4 (no spoilers)

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  • RiverrunnerRiverrunner Posts: 2,419
    In Season 1, the psychic in Australia said that Aaron should not be raised by anyone but Claire.
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  • Solat13Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    JSBE wrote:
    desmond's final vision before charlie died was claire with aaron on a helicopter, which would lead me to believe that both get off the island.

    just because aaron is now with kate doesn't mean that claire is dead. i agree that once they were off the island and on the freighter or back in the real world something happened which lead to kate getting 'custody' of him.

    The thing is the ultimate end of Desmond's predictions came true - Charlie dying. But he had many different versions of this vision: Charlie drowning, falling down the rocks, getting shot with a crossbow.

    Maybe just the preliminary vision Desmond had was of Claire and Aaron in a helicopter and that's not the ultimate outcome.

    Also, I don't think we ever saw Desmond's vision. Maybe because Desmond knew Charlie was going to die eventually, he finally told Charlie about his vision of Claire and Aaron being rescued which is why Charlie agreed to do that mission because it was a suicide mission. Which would also explain, why right before Charlie dives in, that Desmond decides he wants to do the mission because he had lied about the Claire and Aaron part. We're taking what Desmond said as truth because his other visions came true, but we saw his other visions. I really don't think we ever saw the helicopter with Calire and Aaron. So maybe like many others on the island, Desmond lied to get closer to his goal of finding Penny.
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  • dirtyTdirtyT Posts: 3,620
    Solat13 wrote:
    The thing is the ultimate end of Desmond's predictions came true - Charlie dying. But he had many different versions of this vision: Charlie drowning, falling down the rocks, getting shot with a crossbow.

    Maybe just the preliminary vision Desmond had was of Claire and Aaron in a helicopter and that's not the ultimate outcome.

    Also, I don't think we ever saw Desmond's vision. Maybe because Desmond knew Charlie was going to die eventually, he finally told Charlie about his vision of Claire and Aaron being rescued which is why Charlie agreed to do that mission because it was a suicide mission. Which would also explain, why right before Charlie dives in, that Desmond decides he wants to do the mission because he had lied about the Claire and Aaron part. We're taking what Desmond said as truth because his other visions came true, but we saw his other visions. I really don't think we ever saw the helicopter with Calire and Aaron. So maybe like many others on the island, Desmond lied to get closer to his goal of finding Penny.

    Great thought!! We never did see the vision. Any way, all he said was that he saw them get on a helicopter and it took off, he never said they got rescued. Helicopter could have wrecked and Clair could have died and Aaron survived.

    There are 2 left of the Oceanic 6 so we'll find out if Clair gets off. Aaron doesn't count as a Oceanic 6 because he wasn't on the manifest. I think the last 2 will be Sun and Jin. Clair will die in Jacks arms, as he cannot save her and that is why he has issues with seeing his nephew, because he couldn't save his mom. My opinion.
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  • rriversrrivers Posts: 3,698
    dirtyT wrote:
    There are 2 left of the Oceanic 6 so we'll find out if Clair gets off. Aaron doesn't count as a Oceanic 6 because he wasn't on the manifest. I think the last 2 will be Sun and Jin. Clair will die in Jacks arms, as he cannot save her and that is why he has issues with seeing his nephew, because he couldn't save his mom. My opinion.

    Do the Oceanic 6 have to be on the manifest? Aaron was technically on the plane.
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  • JSBEJSBE Posts: 1,078
    rrivers wrote:
    Do the Oceanic 6 have to be on the manifest? Aaron was technically on the plane.

    we'll eventually find out in a couple weeks because the producers have said we'll know all of the oceanic 6 after episode #7.
  • dirtyTdirtyT Posts: 3,620
    rrivers wrote:
    Do the Oceanic 6 have to be on the manifest? Aaron was technically on the plane.
    Well, that is a good point. I guess I always thought they meant specifc passengers. We'll see soon..I love this show.
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  • rriversrrivers Posts: 3,698
    JSBE wrote:
    we'll eventually find out in a couple weeks because the producers have said we'll know all of the oceanic 6 after episode #7.

    And I'm pretty sure, as I think Solat stated, that in last week's preview they said another one of the Oceanic 6 will be revealed in last night's episode. The only person that can be is Aaron.
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  • dirtyTdirtyT Posts: 3,620
    rrivers wrote:
    And I'm pretty sure, as I think Solat stated, that in last week's preview they said another one of the Oceanic 6 will be revealed in last night's episode. The only person that can be is Aaron.
    The preview said another "survivor" will be revealed. Didn't say an Oceanic 6 would be like it did for Sayid. BUT, it very well could be Aaron.
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  • JSBEJSBE Posts: 1,078
    http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20179616,00.html

    new entertainment weekly recap article.

    **edit** holy crap...i can't believe i didn't feel the need to post the whole story to clutter up the thread.
  • rriversrrivers Posts: 3,698
    dirtyT wrote:
    The preview said another "survivor" will be revealed. Didn't say an Oceanic 6 would be like it did for Sayid. BUT, it very well could be Aaron.

    My mistake.
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  • dirtyTdirtyT Posts: 3,620
    rrivers wrote:
    My mistake.
    Sorry, I wasn't tryig to be a smart ass, just saying that it may not necessarily mean Oceanic 6.
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  • rriversrrivers Posts: 3,698
    dirtyT wrote:
    Sorry, I wasn't tryig to be a smart ass, just saying that it may not necessarily mean Oceanic 6.

    I didn't think you were trying to be a smartass. LOL! I seriously was saying "my mistake" to thinking they said one of the Oceanic 6 would be revealed when they said a "survivor". I agree this could mean different things.
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  • not4u10not4u10 Posts: 238
    http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20179125,00.html?iid=top25-20080222-%27%27Lost%27%27%3A+Mind%2Dblowing+scoop

    New interview with the LOST producers.

    Is Ben part of the OCEANIC 6?????
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  • Solat13Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    not4u10 wrote:
    http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20179125,00.html?iid=top25-20080222-%27%27Lost%27%27%3A+Mind%2Dblowing+scoop

    New interview with the LOST producers.

    Is Ben part of the OCEANIC 6?????

    I think he's just saying that to keep alive the possibility the remaining member(s) a mystery.

    Do you think there is any way that Jack would ever consent to a deal in which only 6 people got off the island and Ben is one of them?

    Ben comes and goes from the island as he pleases which is what Miles is alluding to when he said I know who you really are.
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
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    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
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  • not4u10not4u10 Posts: 238
    Solat13 wrote:
    I think he's just saying that to keep alive the possibility the remaining member(s) a mystery.

    Do you think there is any way that Jack would ever consent to a deal in which only 6 people got off the island and Ben is one of them?

    Ben comes and goes from the island as he pleases which is what Miles is alluding to when he said I know who you really are.


    Did you ever think Sayid would be working for Ben?
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  • dirtyTdirtyT Posts: 3,620
    not4u10 wrote:
    Did you ever think Sayid would be working for Ben?
    no, i am very eager to find out why.
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  • Solat13Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    It appears that CBS is not bringing back Cane after the strike which frees up Nestor Carbonell, Richard Alpert, to return to Lost. According to this week's EW, Richard should return to appear in a few of the final episodes this season that haven't been filmed so maybe we'll see where the rest of the Others went off to.
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • AmentsChickAmentsChick Posts: 6,969
    not4u10 wrote:
    I think Claire is dead. The producers said that Jack and Claire will find out that they are half brother and sister. That is why Jack does not want to see Aaron. He is probably too upset over Claire.

    I agree with this. I read/heard somewhere that a MAJOR character will die soon. I think Emerson said it when he was on The View.
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  • not4u10not4u10 Posts: 238
    Solat13 wrote:
    It appears that CBS is not bringing back Cane after the strike which frees up Nestor Carbonell, Richard Alpert, to return to Lost. According to this week's EW, Richard should return to appear in a few of the final episodes this season that haven't been filmed so maybe we'll see where the rest of the Others went off to.


    I forget what episode, it might have be the last of season 3, but Ben told the others to go to the 'Temple.' I wonder if the 'Temple' is in those huts where the Others kept Michael in Season 2.
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  • not4u10not4u10 Posts: 238
    I agree with this. I read/heard somewhere that a MAJOR character will die soon. I think Emerson said it when he was on The View.


    The thing with Claire, Desmond told Charlie that she gets on the helicopter. I wonder if she will get off the island, but never makes it home.

    I also think Sun and Jin's time may be up soon. Their characters' storyline seems to have dried up. Kind of like Charlie's. They don't seem to be fitting into the story anymore. Hope not, I like Jin.

    Especially, if Sun doesn't make it off the island soon, she will die during pregnancy.
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  • dirtyTdirtyT Posts: 3,620
    I agree with this. I read/heard somewhere that a MAJOR character will die soon. I think Emerson said it when he was on The View.
    I agree too. I think that Jack will have a chance to save her and be unable to.

    HOWEVER, i think she'll die later in the series. I think that the "major" death will happen in a flash forward sequence, keeping the actor/actress on the show.
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  • rriversrrivers Posts: 3,698
    not4u10 wrote:
    I also think Sun and Jin's time may be up soon. Their characters' storyline seems to have dried up. Kind of like Charlie's. They don't seem to be fitting into the story anymore. Hope not, I like Jin.

    Sun being pregnant still fits into the storyline.
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  • dirtyTdirtyT Posts: 3,620
    rrivers wrote:
    Sun being pregnant still fits into the storyline.
    Yes but they could die in a flash forward! Most likely Jin. Maybe Jin is working for Ben also.
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  • AmentsChickAmentsChick Posts: 6,969
    dirtyT wrote:
    Yes but they could die in a flash forward! Most likely Jin. Maybe Jin is working for Ben also.

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  • dirtyTdirtyT Posts: 3,620
    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! I LOVE DDK! :(
    Maybe Sayid and Jin shoot it out and they both die and Sayid is in the casket!!
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  • AmentsChickAmentsChick Posts: 6,969
    dirtyT wrote:
    Maybe Sayid and Jin shoot it out and they both die and Sayid is in the casket!!

    hmm...You know...I never even considered Sayid being in the casket. I'm still sticking with my theory that's Locke...but with this show...you just never know!
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  • I'd seriously like to know wtf happened to claire.
  • carbon436 wrote:
    I'd seriously like to know wtf happened to claire.

    claire gets drunk and hooks up with jack. after realizing that they are bro/sis a la' star wars, she jumps off a cliff. thats why jack cant look at aaron, cause he realizes,, "man, that was fucked up"


    or she just dies normal. one or the other.
    mean people suck!
    but nice people sw****w

  • dirtyTdirtyT Posts: 3,620
    Sawyer wrote:
    isn't Sayid Muslim...he wouldn't be having a funeral at a church........yeah I know I'm quick:)
    Yes but he had no friends or family there. I doubt Ben would care enough to make sure he had a proper Muslim burial.
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  • AmentsChickAmentsChick Posts: 6,969
    Sawyer wrote:
    isn't Sayid Muslim...he wouldn't be having a funeral at a church........yeah I know I'm quick:)

    That's an excellent point, SAWYER...and I'm sure you're correct.
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