Lost: Season 4 (no spoilers)

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  • AmentsChickAmentsChick Posts: 6,969
    Poncier wrote:
    Where's my ring?

    In my jeans pocket! :D
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  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 17,178
    With the previews from last night's episode, I didn't think this was a spoiler.

    Sorry.

    PBM
    It wasn't really directed at you, yours was not that big a deal, more at yesterday afternoon's post, which should never have been placed in the thread.
    Just seemed like the opportunity to make the point.
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  • chromiamchromiam Posts: 4,114
    Solat13 wrote:
    I don't think so.

    In Ben's journal in the season finale, he said that he and his camp are running short on supplies.

    And I know Richard Alpert is on another tv show. But I'm just curious where the Others are marching too. They were supposedly heading for the Temple. It's just kind of weird that they just dropped that storyline and might never be able to pick it up.

    I don't think they dropped that storyline. I think ultimately that's where Locke is going to end up going with the rest of his flock. Maybe become the "new" Ben...
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  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 17,178
    Solat13 wrote:
    . But I'm just curious where the Others are marching too. They were supposedly heading for the Temple. It's just kind of weird that they just dropped that storyline and might never be able to pick it up.
    Perhaps they feel viewers will forget Richard and the Others if they show us new stuff like Sayid being James Bond to Benry's M.
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  • Solat13Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    chromiam wrote:
    I don't think they dropped that storyline. I think ultimately that's where Locke is going to end up going with the rest of his flock. Maybe become the "new" Ben...

    Hopefully you're right. But are they going to explain that the guy who never ages had a heart attack or how are they going to explain Richard's disappearance?
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • AllIAmAllIAm Posts: 1,309
    Poncier wrote:

    He's sly, and far more moral than Juliet, even as he blows away the chick he just banged cause ruthless weasel Benry Gale Linus Van Pelt told him to do so.

    tears just came out of my eyes i just laughed so hard.. i think you and i are on the same page with this show...

    for some reason footsteps kept going through my head last night "i did what i had to do.. if there was a reason.. it was you"
  • chromiamchromiam Posts: 4,114
    Solat13 wrote:
    Hopefully you're right. But are they going to explain that the guy who never ages had a heart attack or how are they going to explain Richard's disappearance?

    Nah Richard just hopped off the island, as he has done in the past (to recruit Juliet), and isn't back yet ;)
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  • Solat13Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    chromiam wrote:
    Nah Richard just hopped off the island, as he has done in the past (to recruit Juliet), and isn't back yet ;)

    But how? Locke supposedly blew up the sub and the Others have no way on or off the island - especially Ben who has never been off the island. ;)

    I think we need another Ben flashback.

    Btw, speaking of meat, doesn't Ben look like a giant steakface from all the beatings he's had this season.
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • chromiamchromiam Posts: 4,114
    Solat13 wrote:
    But how? Locke supposedly blew up the sub and the Others have no way on or off the island - especially Ben who has never been off the island. ;)

    I think we need another Ben flashback.

    Btw, speaking of meat, doesn't Ben look like a giant steakface from all the beatings he's had this season.

    Well you've seen the previews for the movie Jumper right??? ;)
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  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 17,178
    Solat13 wrote:
    But how? .
    Heck, he doesn't age, I'm sure he can fly as well...in fact I think he may in fact be Superman.
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  • Solat13Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    Here's EW's recap of last night if anyone is interested:

    http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20178348,00.html?xid=email-alert-lost-20080215-item1
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • AmentsChickAmentsChick Posts: 6,969
    I think I understand the Naomi / Sayid bracelet thing. Just a hunch, but think of the girl Sayid was with, who's boss he was hired to kill. Maybe it's some sort of spy organization (maybe not a "spy" thing, but some sort of evil empire shit). Maybe the bracelet is standard issue of said organization.

    Now, Sayid, being a man of the world, and knowing shit from being an Iraqi intelligence officer, may have seen the bracelet before. Maybe on some spy he met while torturing people.

    So he notices it on Naomi and becomes concerned. He knows these people are "bad" because of having seen the jewelery before. So he wants to go to the ship and mess them up, or at least infiltrate them and gain their trust.

    A total hunch but I don't have any other ideas as to why Sayid cares so much about Naomi (especially after seeing the bracelet), and why the future spy-girl had the same bracelet on.


    I think you are TOTALLY onto something there!!! Great theory! :)
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  • rriversrrivers Posts: 3,698
    nfanel wrote:
    lots of trickery going on tonight...
    sawyer made a good point - why does kate think she'll be free off the island? i mean we know she is because we saw her flash forward...but how did she know she wouldn't go back to jail?

    This takes a lot of the suspense out of the show, if Kate, Jack, etc. were to go along with it. If they decide they are happier living on the island than leaving then all the air goes out of the balloon of them wanting to get off. Obviously this doesn't happen, but they do want to go back.
    "We're fixed good, lamp-wise."
  • AmentsChickAmentsChick Posts: 6,969
    Thorns2010 wrote:
    I don't think he was ever actually suppose to kill her boss. I think she was the 'target' the whole time.
    So do I!!!!!!!!!!!


    (Sidenote: Sorry, I'm still trying to catch up on all the posts...I'm still back on page 64!)
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  • rriversrrivers Posts: 3,698
    Thorns2010 wrote:
    Because he couldn't tell her the truth that he was suppose to kill her.

    If he was just supposed to kill her, why go through the charade of dating her, etc. Just kill her the first time he is alone with her.
    "We're fixed good, lamp-wise."
  • raystreyraystrey Posts: 171
    I wonder if the 30 minutes differnce time frame is related between the island and how the economist call came 30 minutes late/early (i dont recall)

    maybe he is on the island.

    I also get the feeling Sayid made a deal that was killing off people who are in some way looking for the island. When he killed the guy on the golf course it seemed as if he knew what was comming.
  • Solat13Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    rrivers wrote:
    If he was just supposed to kill her, why go through the charade of dating her, etc. Just kill her the first time he is alone with her.

    Yep, much like she was trying to get info out of Sayid, Sayid was trying to get info from Elsa.
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 17,178
    rrivers wrote:
    If he was just supposed to kill her, why go through the charade of dating her, etc. Just kill her the first time he is alone with her.
    An why was it so important to wait for the pager to go off.

    I don't think she was the ultimate target. Her boss, Jacob Jingleheimerschmidt was.
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  • rriversrrivers Posts: 3,698
    For the record...I didn't really like last night's episode. I think partly because I read the spoiler, but also because some of my favorite characters PISSED ME OFF so much!! :mad:

    I didn't really care for it much either. I wasn't blown away by Ben being off the island with Sayid.

    As I was watching the episode, I kept thinking the surprise was going to be that Michael was back because I saw the name Harold Perineau (sp?) in the opening credits. I didn't see him at all during the episode, as I guess no one else did either or everyone would have had a fit here.
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  • rriversrrivers Posts: 3,698
    Yeah, time didn't fly by for me. I kept looking at the clock thinking get on with it...thanks to the bitch in me who read the spoiler. I hate her...seriously, I'm SO pissed at myself. NEVER again.

    So the spoiler was that Ben was off the island?
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  • nfanelnfanel Posts: 2,558
    raystrey wrote:
    I wonder if the 30 minutes differnce time frame is related between the island and how the economist call came 30 minutes late/early (i dont recall)

    maybe he is on the island.
    oooh, interesting. she told him he was supposed to page her at 10:30... did we know for sure it was 31 minutes off? i'll have to rewatch that scene again...
  • AmentsChickAmentsChick Posts: 6,969
    rrivers wrote:
    So the spoiler was that Ben was off the island?

    Yeah and Sayid was in cahoots with him. Basically, it was a synopsis of the entire episode.
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  • rriversrrivers Posts: 3,698
    Poncier wrote:
    Well, I was just using Miles' term from last week, when Kate and danny-boy were carrying Naomi's body, he said "Thats not Naomi, thats just meat"...cause he's Mr. "I'm cool I speak to the dead with my vacuum cleaner" man.

    Interesting side note I read during the week. The guy who plays Miles was also in the asylum with Uncle Junior in the Sopranos. I couldn't place him last week.
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  • AmentsChickAmentsChick Posts: 6,969
    rrivers wrote:
    I didn't really care for it much either. I wasn't blown away by Ben being off the island with Sayid.

    As I was watching the episode, I kept thinking the surprise was going to be that Michael was back because I saw the name Harold Perineau (sp?) in the opening credits. I didn't see him at all during the episode, as I guess no one else did either or everyone would have had a fit here.

    Yeah, it's funny you said that. I was thinking the same thing....even though I knew he wasn't mentioned in the spoiler. Maybe they did that as he will be on next week? :confused:
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  • Solat13Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    rrivers wrote:
    Interesting side note I read during the week. The guy who plays Miles was also in the asylum with Uncle Junior in the Sopranos. I couldn't place him last week.

    Yeah, I mentioned that last week.

    He helped organize the poker game there on the Sopranos.
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • Solat13Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    Yeah, it's funny you said that. I was thinking the same thing....even though I knew he wasn't mentioned in the spoiler. Maybe they did that as he will be on next week? :confused:

    I'm pretty sure Michael's name has been in the credits all three episodes this year. I'll check when I go home. I have them saved on my dvr.
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • dirtyTdirtyT Posts: 3,620
    Solat13 wrote:
    I'm pretty sure Michael's name has been in the credits all three episodes this year. I'll check when I go home. I have them saved on my dvr.
    i know he's been in the credits for at least one episode.
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  • dirtyTdirtyT Posts: 3,620
    do you think Michael is Ben's man on the boat?
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  • chromiamchromiam Posts: 4,114
    Solat13 wrote:
    I'm pretty sure Michael's name has been in the credits all three episodes this year. I'll check when I go home. I have them saved on my dvr.

    He has... seems like some kind of running joke or just fucking with all the anal die hard fans every week ;)
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  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 17,178
    chromiam wrote:
    He has... seems like some kind of running joke or just fucking with all the anal die hard fans every week ;)
    I think its been fairly common knowledge that Michael reappears this season, by putting his name in the regular cast credits each week, the surprise of his exact point of return won't be spoiled.
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