When I heard the voice, I thought Ben, but I didn't think it could be. Wow ... that's an interesting twist.
me too. well first i thought jack was going to fix him up...then i thought it sounded like ben.
this is confusing.
so i'm guessing #5 is sawyer since it looks like he and kate are a pair once again...
me too. well first i thought jack was going to fix him up...then i thought it sounded like ben.
this is confusing.
so i'm guessing #5 is sawyer since it looks like he and kate are a pair once again...
oh, and for the record...i like sayid again.
I can't wait to see what the freighter looks like.
And it didn't take much to get you back on the pro Sayid side I see.
me too. well first i thought jack was going to fix him up...then i thought it sounded like ben.
this is confusing.
so i'm guessing #5 is sawyer since it looks like he and kate are a pair once again...
oh, and for the record...i like sayid again.
i DON'T THINK IS AN oCEANIC 6. i THINK THAT SHE WILL SAY SHE HAS LIVED ON THE ISLAND HER WHOLE LIFE SO SHE DOESN'T GO TO JAIL. SJE'LL USE THE NAME OF A DEAD PERSON ON THE ISLAND AND BEN WILL HELP HER DO IT AND GET AWAY WITH IT. BEN WILL BE THE "HE". MY OPINION
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i think he said 31 minutes...but not positive.
why did naomi have the same bracelet as that girl that sayid killed?
Ok, he's a theory. Ben is trying to eliminate people who have to do with the freighter. That's his list. And Elsa like Naomi was involved with the freighter.
And how about the way Lapidus and Farrady reacted when Desmond asked questions about Widmore.
I can't wait to see what Desmond and Sayid find out.
I think I understand the Naomi / Sayid bracelet thing. Just a hunch, but think of the girl Sayid was with, who's boss he was hired to kill. Maybe it's some sort of spy organization (maybe not a "spy" thing, but some sort of evil empire shit). Maybe the bracelet is standard issue of said organization.
Now, Sayid, being a man of the world, and knowing shit from being an Iraqi intelligence officer, may have seen the bracelet before. Maybe on some spy he met while torturing people.
So he notices it on Naomi and becomes concerned. He knows these people are "bad" because of having seen the jewelery before. So he wants to go to the ship and mess them up, or at least infiltrate them and gain their trust.
A total hunch but I don't have any other ideas as to why Sayid cares so much about Naomi (especially after seeing the bracelet), and why the future spy-girl had the same bracelet on.
EDIT: On another note, about Kate getting off the island and possibly going to jail again.. I don't think she would goto jail. I think she would be pardoned because of the trauma she endured from crashing and being on an island for 4 months. Just my opinion though.
Abraham Lincoln once said, "If you are a racist, I will attack you with the North."
A total hunch but I don't have any other ideas as to why Sayid cares so much about Naomi (especially after seeing the bracelet), and why the future spy-girl had the same bracelet on.
I think I understand the Naomi / Sayid bracelet thing. Just a hunch, but think of the girl Sayid was with, who's boss he was hired to kill. Maybe it's some sort of spy organization (maybe not a "spy" thing, but some sort of evil empire shit). Maybe the bracelet is standard issue of said organization.
Now, Sayid, being a man of the world, and knowing shit from being an Iraqi intelligence officer, may have seen the bracelet before. Maybe on some spy he met while torturing people.
So he notices it on Naomi and becomes concerned. He knows these people are "bad" because of having seen the jewelery before. So he wants to go to the ship and mess them up, or at least infiltrate them and gain their trust.
A total hunch but I don't have any other ideas as to why Sayid cares so much about Naomi (especially after seeing the bracelet), and why the future spy-girl had the same bracelet on.
EDIT: On another note, about Kate getting off the island and possibly going to jail again.. I don't think she would goto jail. I think she would be pardoned because of the trauma she endured from crashing and being on an island for 4 months. Just my opinion though.
I agree with your thoughts on Kate.
I like your theory on the bracelets. I kind of have a similar one. But the more I think about it - it's kind of hokey. What's next decoder rings?
I am curious to see who the RG is that is listed on Naomi's bracelet.
one other thing. why was sayid crying at the end. i mean, i know he cared for her but it turned out she wasn't what she said either. she was setting him up as well...
one other thing. why was sayid crying at the end. i mean, i know he cared for her but it turned out she wasn't what she said either. she was setting him up as well...
he's a sucker for the ladies...
Maybe, it's just a realization that everytime he gets close to a woman she dies or disappears.
I like your theory on the bracelets. I kind of have a similar one. But the more I think about it - it's kind of hokey. What's next decoder rings?
I am curious to see who the RG is that is listed on Naomi's bracelet.
Yea, it's sort of odd. I mean, why would some spy organization issue company bracelets? But I still don't think I'm THAT far off. Maybe Sayid knows a guy who specialized in making said bracelets. Idk, but I think someone in Sayid's past is connected to Naomi's bracelet (Sayid looked at her bracelet and became overly concerned about her once he did). Which means that the girl who was hired to kill Sayid (future Sayid) is connected somehow too.
Abraham Lincoln once said, "If you are a racist, I will attack you with the North."
Yea, it's sort of odd. I mean, why would some spy organization issue company bracelets? But I still don't think I'm THAT far off. Maybe Sayid knows a guy who specialized in making said bracelets. Idk, but I think someone in Sayid's past is connected to Naomi's bracelet (Sayid looked at her bracelet and became overly concerned about her once he did). Which means that the girl who was hired to kill Sayid (future Sayid) is connected somehow too.
Yeah, I have a feeling that there is some connection we don't know yet about Sayid and Naomi too.
then why would he have told her to leave town and warn her that he was going to be killing her boss?
I think if he was planning to kill her she would have been dead soon after they met. I don't think Sayid's initial plan was to fall in love, I think it was to get close to her to get to her boss.
Abraham Lincoln once said, "If you are a racist, I will attack you with the North."
Another question, how come the phone conversation was real time between the freighter and island, but yet the timing beacon or whatever it was arrived much later.
How could an island slow down physical properties like that but allow transmissions to occur instantaneously?
So when the helicopter is flying now, is it flying into the past?
Another question, how come the phone conversation was real time between the freighter and island, but yet the timing beacon or whatever it was arrived much later.
How could an island slow down physical properties like that but allow transmissions to occur instantaneously?
So when the helicopter is flying now, is it flying into the past?
Difference between sound and light waves... just a guess Actually I would guess that transmissions aren't affected but rather light is bent through a "worm hole" which leads to the island at a specific point in space.. hence the "make sure to fly the same bearing no matter what" statement. And would explain the way the light is cast on the island comment last week...
technically no its flying into the present in the real world but it would be the past in relation to actions on the island, if that makes sense.
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Difference between sound and light waves... just a guess Actually I would guess that transmissions aren't affected but rather light is bent through a "worm hole" which leads to the island at a specific point in space.. hence the "make sure to fly the same bearing no matter what" statement. And would explain the way the light is cast on the island comment last week...
technically no its flying into the present in the real world but it would be the past in relation to actions on the island, if that makes sense.
Yeah, you're right about the present - that's what I meant to say.
This show makes it so hard to explain your own theories & questions right sometimes.
i swear the previews for last night's episode following episode 2 showed a lot of stuff that was not in last night's episode - hurley in the helicopter, fighting on the island. what's up with that?
it is going to take me some time to try and wrap my head around this episode.
i want to go on the record as saying penny's dad is the economist. that's just my gut feeling right now. of course, that could change after next week's episode.
i agree that sayid and naomi must have a connection we dont know about..
did anyone say the idea that maybe sayid doesnt want to be doing this.. maybe he was crying at the end because he is a prisoner to ben.. he did keep sayiing "you do want to help your friends dont you".. this is what he had to do to save them all...
and can someone just confirm for me who took off on the helicopter.. was that desmond on it too?
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this is confusing.
so i'm guessing #5 is sawyer since it looks like he and kate are a pair once again...
oh, and for the record...i like sayid again.
I can't wait to see what the freighter looks like.
And it didn't take much to get you back on the pro Sayid side I see.
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I'm sure there'll be a screencap in the morning.
And why is Sayid taken aback by Naomi more than anyone else?
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why did naomi have the same bracelet as that girl that sayid killed?
Ok, he's a theory. Ben is trying to eliminate people who have to do with the freighter. That's his list. And Elsa like Naomi was involved with the freighter.
And how about the way Lapidus and Farrady reacted when Desmond asked questions about Widmore.
I can't wait to see what Desmond and Sayid find out.
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Now, Sayid, being a man of the world, and knowing shit from being an Iraqi intelligence officer, may have seen the bracelet before. Maybe on some spy he met while torturing people.
So he notices it on Naomi and becomes concerned. He knows these people are "bad" because of having seen the jewelery before. So he wants to go to the ship and mess them up, or at least infiltrate them and gain their trust.
A total hunch but I don't have any other ideas as to why Sayid cares so much about Naomi (especially after seeing the bracelet), and why the future spy-girl had the same bracelet on.
EDIT: On another note, about Kate getting off the island and possibly going to jail again.. I don't think she would goto jail. I think she would be pardoned because of the trauma she endured from crashing and being on an island for 4 months. Just my opinion though.
I agree with your thoughts on Kate.
I like your theory on the bracelets. I kind of have a similar one. But the more I think about it - it's kind of hokey. What's next decoder rings?
I am curious to see who the RG is that is listed on Naomi's bracelet.
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he's a sucker for the ladies...
Maybe, it's just a realization that everytime he gets close to a woman she dies or disappears.
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Yea, it's sort of odd. I mean, why would some spy organization issue company bracelets? But I still don't think I'm THAT far off. Maybe Sayid knows a guy who specialized in making said bracelets. Idk, but I think someone in Sayid's past is connected to Naomi's bracelet (Sayid looked at her bracelet and became overly concerned about her once he did). Which means that the girl who was hired to kill Sayid (future Sayid) is connected somehow too.
Yeah, I have a feeling that there is some connection we don't know yet about Sayid and Naomi too.
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I don't think he was ever actually suppose to kill her boss. I think she was the 'target' the whole time.
I think if he was planning to kill her she would have been dead soon after they met. I don't think Sayid's initial plan was to fall in love, I think it was to get close to her to get to her boss.
Because he couldn't tell her the truth that he was suppose to kill her.
When he met up with Ben he never said 'why didn't you kill her boss! That was your mission' He said 'I have another name for you.'
Eh, that's true too. Unless Sayid, being tough as nails, did kill her boss before he went to Ben.
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How could an island slow down physical properties like that but allow transmissions to occur instantaneously?
So when the helicopter is flying now, is it flying into the past?
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Difference between sound and light waves... just a guess
technically no its flying into the present in the real world but it would be the past in relation to actions on the island, if that makes sense.
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Yeah, you're right about the present - that's what I meant to say.
This show makes it so hard to explain your own theories & questions right sometimes.
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anyways...
island clock:
http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Image:4x03_Clock1.jpg
rocket clock:
http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Image:4x03_Clock2.jpg
and as always...unanswered questions courtesy of lostpedia.
On the Island
The Helicopter
Who is the R.G. on Naomi's bracelet?
Why do physical objects travel to the Island differently than electromagnetic signals?
Why was there a 31 minute time difference?
Why does Daniel say the results of his experiment are "not good" and "beyond weird"?
Why does Daniel warn Frank to fly the helicopter out on the exact bearing that they flew in on?
Is this the same bearing given to Michael when he left the island on the boat?
Why does Frank tell Daniel to hang up the phone if Minkowski answers?
Why has Minkowski not attempted to call Miles back?
Jacob's Cabin
What happened to Jacob's cabin?
The Barracks
Why does Ben have a room full of different types of money, clothing and passports for himself?
Why is the room hidden?
What business does Ben have in those countries?
Why does he need to use an alias?
Sayid's Flashforward
How much time has elapsed since Sayid left the Island?
Has Sayid had any contact with Nadia since he left the island?
When do these events take place in relation to other flashforwards we have seen?
Who is Mr. Avellino?
Who is Elsa's employer?
Why did Elsa's employer page her 30 minutes late?
What hold does Ben have over Sayid?
Who is Sayid protecting?
Whom or what is he protecting them from?
Who are the people on Ben's list?
What happened the last time Sayid, to quote Ben, "thought with his heart instead of his gun"?
Ben's passport. Dean Moriarty - pretty close to Professor Moriarty - the villain and bain of Sherlock Holmes.
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- 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
i want to go on the record as saying penny's dad is the economist. that's just my gut feeling right now. of course, that could change after next week's episode.
i agree that sayid and naomi must have a connection we dont know about..
did anyone say the idea that maybe sayid doesnt want to be doing this.. maybe he was crying at the end because he is a prisoner to ben.. he did keep sayiing "you do want to help your friends dont you".. this is what he had to do to save them all...
and can someone just confirm for me who took off on the helicopter.. was that desmond on it too?