Self-Mutilation

angelica

LeatherMandi wrote:

How did i contradict myself?.. i said.. i dont judge that person who does it.. "oh that person cuts themselves, they are a fucking idiot" That would be judging a person. I just said i didnt have any respect for it.. if you are going to put me under a scope.. at least do it fairly please

People justify their stigma and ignorance every day. The bottom line is that it cannot be justified.

Fahka

libragirl wrote:

I respect your opinion..I agree it is worthless and senseless. But if you have a close friend doing it your not gonna be so flip about it..you are gonna care about helping them. Just like if someone I knew had a drug problem..yeah it's senseless but Im still going to care.

To be honest with you.. if i had a friend doing it.. I would probably tell them im not gonna be their friend anymore until they s topped. Because lets face it.. like with drug problems and cutting problems.. people are gonna do what they are gonna do. Its useless to let it weigh the person who just wants to see that person happy down..



To vedderloution: You right, and i am sorry that i don't understand where you are coming from. I have been around abuse and bullshit all my life and i guess being a person who has been through alot and had a hell of a struggle to any form of normalcy . i just cant grasp the notion.


if you ever feel like telling me about it or helping me understand, my pm box is always open theres nothing wrong with cutters like u say.. we all deal with stuff differently..

Ledbetterman10

so if someone cuts themselves, is that a suicide attempt? or do people like cut themselves just do it and then tape it up?

libragirl

I just think if you aren't going through it or know someone who is..it's hard to understand and people think it's some emo thing or stuff of TV movies.

She's a person to me and it's different I guess.

angelica

Ledbetterman10 wrote:

so if someone cuts themselves, is that a suicide attempt? or do people like cut themselves just do it and then tape it up?

cutting itself is not a suicide attempt.

Just like smoking cigarettes is not a suicide attempt.

And yet someone who smokes can be suicidal, also; and someone who cuts can likewise be suicidal also.

Fahka

angelica wrote:

People justify their stigma and ignorance every day. The bottom line is that it cannot be justified.

i really wish i knew what the f*ck u were talking about...


and libra it is tuff when its an actual human being... that i get ...

Vedderlution_Baby

Ledbetterman10 wrote:

so if someone cuts themselves, is that a suicide attempt? or do people like cut themselves just do it and then tape it up?

Not in my case. It was just more as a release and a way to deal with a lot of shit all at once. So basically it was like you said. Do it, and then move on to do it again.

libragirl

Ledbetterman10 wrote:

so if someone cuts themselves, is that a suicide attempt? or do people like cut themselves just do it and then tape it up?

well Im not a professional but going by what angelica said it's not considered a suicide attempt. My friend just tries to hide it with long sleeves, wearing pants.

LeatherMandi wrote:

To be honest with you.. if i had a friend doing it.. I would probably tell them im not gonna be their friend anymore until they s topped. Because lets face it.. like with drug problems and cutting problems.. people are gonna do what they are gonna do. Its useless to let it weigh the person who just wants to see that person happy down..

Yeah, I dont think I would just do that..that would be worse. Then again she needs to want to stop...I just want to be there for her. I have known her for years..unlike some people I know I have loyalty to people I love and care about.

you are

i don't know if anyone has posted this link or not, but... - http://www.twloha.com/index.php - To Write Love On Her Arms (FYI - it's a Christian website, but there's a lot of information on there)

i've never done it, don't know anyone who does, but it's a serious issue and needs more awareness. i think Hot Topic started selling the shirts for TWLOHA, or you can buy them online.

libragirl

you are wrote:

i don't know if anyone has posted this link or not, but... - http://www.twloha.com/index.php - To Write Love On Her Arms (FYI - it's a Christian website, but there's a lot of information on there)

i've never done it, don't know anyone who does, but it's a serious issue and needs more awareness. i think Hot Topic started selling the shirts for TWLOHA, or you can buy them online.

Thanks for posting that link...Im def. gonna check that out.

stickboy

wow :eek:

This is a tough subject to comment on, however the one thing I agree with is we ALL deal with our shit diff. and I DEF dont think cuttin helps. I had friends who dealt with that, an ex gf who was into Goth and death metal, and I always thought it was weak...until I went thru MY depression and thought...well Im too much of a pussy to cut myself. SO instead I always toyed with my rifle when I was in the army and kept staring down the barrel of a loaded gun..felt good and tempting at the time,,,but this FUCKING Album that kept playin on my walkman called Vs and a song Indifference told me not to pull the trigger and thankfully so cause I wouldnt have met so many of you today
My friends sometimes think Im a bit opinionated on this subject partly because I overcame it myself..I was a loner for a while so I HAD to pull out of it myself and even alcohol and cigs I quit on my own and I always told and still do tell people its UP TO YOU!. No parent, no AA meeting, no friend is gonna help you! You have to want to LIVE. Find the reasons to..it might take a while, some longer than others but keep at it..in the end you'll be glad you're still alive



all my support, love and thoughts on anyone who deals with this shit...believe in yourself and the reasons why you are here. Life is beautiful....( said the man w/o a job, 20 bucks to his name, in debt, hating his life in NY but JUST had the BEST time seeing Pearl Jam with all the friends I made here )

libragirl

stickboy wrote:

wow :eek:

This is a tough subject to comment on, however the one thing I agree with is we ALL deal with our shit diff. and I DEF dont think cuttin helps. I had friends who dealt with that, an ex gf who was into Goth and death metal, and I always thought it was weak...until I went thru MY depression and thought...well Im too much of a pussy to cut myself. SO instead I always toyed with my rifle when I was in the army and kept staring down the barrel of a loaded gun..felt good and tempting at the time,,,but this FUCKING Album that kept playin on my walkman called Vs and a song Indifference told me not to pull the trigger and thankfully so cause I wouldnt have met so many of you today
My friends sometimes think Im a bit opinionated on this subject partly because I overcame it myself..I was a loner for a while so I HAD to pull out of it myself and even alcohol and cigs I quit on my own and I always told and still do tell people its UP TO YOU!. No parent, no AA meeting, no friend is gonna help you! You have to want to LIVE. Find the reasons to..it might take a while, some longer than others but keep at it..in the end you'll be glad you're still alive



all my support, love and thoughts on anyone who deals with this shit...believe in yourself and the reasons why you are here. Life is beautiful....( said the man w/o a job, 20 bucks to his namein debt, hating his life in NY but JUST had the BEST time seeing Pearl Jam with all the friends I made here )

Thanks for sharing that Eli...yeah it's coming down to her wanting to stop....it's hard to see her going through it though

stickboy

libragirl wrote:

Thanks for sharing that Eli...yeah it's coming down to her wanting to stop....it's hard to see her going through it though

it always is...more of a reason I was a loner, cause I knew the people that TRULY cared for me couldnt see me in that state of mind and even now, Im not one to bring stuff up like this or like to relive it 20 yrs later, but I know many of u here and wanted to give a few words of encouragenent..hope it helped

you are

libragirl wrote:

Thanks for posting that link...Im def. gonna check that out.

you're welcome and i'll say a prayer for your friend

libragirl

you are wrote:

you're welcome and i'll say a prayer for your friend

That is very nice of you...thank you.

StateOfLoveBoatCptn.

sorry you're having to deal with this. I had no idea this is what was upsetting you, but its good to know that she's got a friend like you to seek help for her in any way you can. Think you came to a good place for that. I hope you're able to guide her in a positive direction with this....

libragirl

StateOfLoveBoatCptn. wrote:

sorry you're having to deal with this. I had no idea this is what was upsetting you, but its good to know that she's got a friend like you to seek help for her in any way you can. Think you came to a good place for that. I hope you're able to guide her in a positive direction with this....

Yeah...I wanted to say but eh..it's a weird subject but then again I posted a thread about it...I make no sense sometimes.

Yeah everyone here had been encouraging and helpful..for the most part.

stuckinline

pm sent

Collin

This is a heavy subject. I can't give you any advice that hasn't been given already.

I know several people who have done it. I didn't know how to handle it, whether I should have told someone or not (I didn't). All I did was talk and listen.

libragirl

Collin wrote:

This is a heavy subject. I can't give you any advice that hasn't been given already.

I know several people who have done it. I didn't know how to handle it, whether I should have told someone or not (I didn't). All I did was talk and listen.

yeah..I think I have annoyed some people by posting this..but people have been very helpful and I appreciate it greatly. But basically that's all Im gonna be able to do right now Collin, talk and listen and hope she wants to get better.