Self-Mutilation

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  • libragirllibragirl Posts: 4,632

    Good luck and the fact that your so worried means you probably a good friend and are helping more than you think.

    oh yeah Im very worried...but Im not trying to be too pushy.

    smithnic wrote:
    As Will said in Good Will Hunting, I have some experience with this.

    For literature I would read "Bodies Under Siege"
    http://www.amazon.com/Bodies-under-Siege-Self-mutilation-Modification/dp/0801853001

    As well as reading up on borderline personality.

    Also there have been marked improvements with a therapy style known as DBT or Dialectical Behavioral Therapy for Borderline patients. Here's the text:

    http://www.amazon.com/Training-Treating-Borderline-Personality-Disorder/dp/0898620341

    Bellevue has a great program:

    http://www.ipdp.org/


    Thank you for the info...that is most helpful, Im going to check that out.
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  • eyedclaareyedclaar Posts: 6,980
    My older brother used to do strange things to himself like take a needle and thread and sew a loop through the thick web between thumb and index finger. He also cut himself with knives. For him, it was a test of his pain threshold which was immense. Psycho. I too have a large pain threshold but I never felt the need to prove it to anyone, especially myself.
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  • libragirllibragirl Posts: 4,632
    smithnic wrote:
    Wow going back and reading posts there are some really ignorant people commenting.
    My favorite 2 are the ones about it not being apporpriate to talk about it here on AET. Uh, if you want to talk about the best Even Flow that's the Porch buddy.
    The other one that is my favorite was the "I'm not going to be their friend" HA! It's a problem not a choice moron.

    yeah it was a upsetting seeing those comments...I was upset when i posted this thread and seeing some of those comments was jarring. To think a friend would just abandon me when I really need them is awful. That's not a friend imo. But I just think people who feel that way never experienced anything like this. I don't know.
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  • libragirllibragirl Posts: 4,632
    eyedclaar wrote:
    My older brother used to do strange things to himself like take a needle and thread and sew a loop through the thick web between thumb and index finger. He also cut himself with knives. For him, it was a test of his pain threshold which was immense. Psycho. I too have a large pain threshold but I never felt the need to prove it to anyone, especially myself.

    jesus...and he wasn't depressed or anything?
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  • eyedclaareyedclaar Posts: 6,980
    libragirl wrote:
    jesus...and he wasn't depressed or anything?


    I think it was more unfocused rage due to some fairly serious childhood trauma. I think he was trying to prove that his armor was so thick nobody could ever hurt him again.
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  • libragirllibragirl Posts: 4,632
    eyedclaar wrote:
    I think it was more unfocused rage due to some fairly serious childhood trauma. I think he was trying to prove that his armor was so thick nobody could ever hurt him again.

    awww....I hope he is better now.
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  • angelicaangelica Posts: 6,038
    Teenagers that I have worked with have been taught to use ice as a way of coping. Apparently an icecube pressed firmly onto the skin can give a similar feeling of release with out the danger.

    The CMHA suggests that option...the ice held to the skin can be painful and trigger the similar adrenaline rush that cutting can give. Another one is to put an elastic band around your wrist and to snap it to satisfy the adrenaline seeking urge.

    Also, I do public speaking at high schools with a girl who used to cut all the time. What helped her move beyond harming herself was that her mother made her a blank white cotton doll to represent herself. This girl began to write on the doll, her feelings, on the parts that symbolized where felt like cutting herself. She would write all kinds of angry outbursts. Eventually, she began to write positive things on the doll, too.

    At the CMHA, we also suggest a similar option, which is to draw an outline of yourself/your body on paper, and to write on the body parts you have the urge to cut on. Express/write your feelings of despair, anger, fury, etc. (edit: write in red pen/marker)
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  • eyedclaareyedclaar Posts: 6,980
    libragirl wrote:
    awww....I hope he is better now.


    He's a psycho republican living in Alaska. He never really got over his issues, but he doesn't hurt himself anymore. It's too bad really, at one time he was the nicest kid in the world and wasn't afraid to stand up against anyone who was picking on someone smaller or weaker. I learned that from him. Now he doesn't really have any empathy for anyone.

    I've posted this before, but here is a song I wrote about him - my evil twin. We're not twins but our faces look so much alike. Pretty much where the similarities end.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKVGKeUKsv0
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  • libragirllibragirl Posts: 4,632
    angelica wrote:

    At the CMHA, we also suggest a similar option, which is to draw an outline of yourself/your body on paper, and to write on the body parts you have the urge to cut on. Express/write your feelings of despair, anger, fury, etc. (edit: write in red pen/marker)


    I actually saw that on a website about self-harm. It also said something about ripping up paper...I suggested both to my friend but she said it's not the same and she did try ripping paper.
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  • angelicaangelica Posts: 6,038
    libragirl wrote:
    I actually saw that on a website about self-harm. It also said something about ripping up paper...I suggested both to my friend but she said it's not the same and she did try ripping paper.
    Yeah...those options wouldn't have worked for me, either.

    I think they get more effective as someone is really readying themselves to move beyond acting against themselves. There are so many different stages to recovery.
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  • angelicaangelica Posts: 6,038
    eyedclaar wrote:
    He's a psycho republican living in Alaska. He never really got over his issues, but he doesn't hurt himself anymore. It's too bad really, at one time he was the nicest kid in the world and wasn't afraid to stand up against anyone who was picking on someone smaller or weaker. I learned that from him. Now he doesn't really have any empathy for anyone.

    I've posted this before, but here is a song I wrote about him - my evil twin. We're not twins but our faces look so much alike. Pretty much where the similarities end.
    I've grown up around many precious and tragic figures. Some have been killed; some have been murdered; some have taken their own lives; others have walled off their very spirits.

    I've come to learn that feeling and sharing great depth is a gift.
    Very nice! :) Thank-you for sharing that!
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  • libragirllibragirl Posts: 4,632
    angelica wrote:
    Yeah...those options wouldn't have worked for me, either.

    I think they get more effective as someone is really readying themselves to move beyond acting against themselves. There are so many different stages to recovery.

    yeah...i just think she not at that stage yet or even close.
    eyedclaar wrote:
    He's a psycho republican living in Alaska. He never really got over his issues, but he doesn't hurt himself anymore. It's too bad really, at one time he was the nicest kid in the world and wasn't afraid to stand up against anyone who was picking on someone smaller or weaker. I learned that from him. Now he doesn't really have any empathy for anyone.

    I've posted this before, but here is a song I wrote about him - my evil twin. We're not twins but our faces look so much alike. Pretty much where the similarities end.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKVGKeUKsv0


    eh..republican psychos are the worse kind of psychos...

    thanks for sharing that.
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  • libragirllibragirl Posts: 4,632
    I haven't spoken to her since last week...Im so upset now...so many things..there wouldnt be anyway i could help her right now.
    These cuts are leaving creases. Trace the scars to fit the pieces, to tell the story, you don't need to say a word.
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