2007 Yankees

igotid88

did i mention the Rangers won?

Fighting Hellfish

metsfan wrote:

wasnt there year what do u want me to bitch about and be a baby all day long, then ill really get depressed, its the mets im used to it.least its another record no one in baseball.not a phony at all just hate shit like oh we have 26 rings and how many do u ahve and meanwhile your not even alive for 90% of them

My nephew is 10, big Yankee fan. He's been alive for 15% of the yankees World Series Champioships. I'm 32. Been alive for 19 % of them.

Fighting Hellfish

drew0 wrote:

How is this shit - I'd really like to know.

Maybe you guys can buy Kenny Lofton next year? It's how you usually solve your postseason problems.

Haven't been paying attention the last few years, huh? That line may have worked in 2002, though.

JSBE

stpmattb wrote:

Of the current team, other than Damon and Clemens, who have they really thrown money at in the off season?

well, seeing as damon was a 05 offseason signing i would guess you are not talking about last year so here it goes - other than damon and roger you have farnsworth, giambi, mussina, pavano and pettitte (to bring him back). you could also throw igawa in there since they did "win" the right to negotiate with him.

Atomic Punk wrote:

The Yanks have an awful lot of homegrown talent on their team....

i will agree with this, but they also have the $$$ to keep a lot of their homegrown talent (jeter, rivera, posada) when the original contract is about to or has run out.

and yes, i'm a red sox fan and i will completely toss out the disclaimer that the red sox have a very large payroll as well and can afford to do pretty much the same things as the yankees.

igotid88

At least the Yanks are the only team from last year's postseason to be in this one. After they were written off in July.

drew0

stpmattb wrote:

Of the current team, other than Damon and Clemens, who have they really thrown money at in the off season?

Mussini, Giambi, Damon, A-Rod, Clemens? Yeah, they have homegrown talent, but they still bought all of those stars.

BetterManningNYG

drew0 wrote:

Try playing the game like real men, and buy and develop players as they grow, instead of waiting for other teams to develop them and then buying them and bragging when they make you win. I have absolute 0 respect for the Yankees, and probably less for their fans. Hell, I could win a World Series given the salary cap they have. When a young, unexperienced team like the Indians is beating a well experienced team like the Yankees whom have been there before, you know this game is about pride and that the Indians fucking deserve this title 100x more than the Yankees. As it was said earlier, considering the batting lineup, the Yankees have 350 postseason appearances - the Indians have 84. Or, if you take away Kenny Lofton, 0.

try doing some research to demonstrate your own knowledge of the game before you go bashing fans of other teams.

over half of the yankees' current roster is made up of players who came through their minor league system.

and when the yankees won three world series in a row between 1998 and 2000, their "big name" free agent acquisitions were david wells and mike stanton.

soulsinging

i told my friend a few hours ago it will be the indians in 4.

JSBE

wang didn't have it tonight. his sinker wasn't sinking. without even looking at a score i would know something didn't go right because he gave up a couple hrs.

the game would have obviously been a lot different had the yanks taken advantage of a less than stellar sabathia with his 5 walks. bases loaded in the 5th and he gets a pop-up to get out of the inning.

carmona vs. pettitte will be interesting. if carmona is on (and he has been since the all-star break) the yanks are going to have a rough night. then again, i have my own game to worry about hoping that daisuke can throw like he did the last time i started.

BetterThanYou

drew0 wrote:

Sabathia walked 5 runners - if I remember correctly, he hadn't walked more than 3 in a game all year. It wasn't just Wang who was pitching bad. Yes, none of those five scored, but Sabathia wasn't holding up to the caliber he was made out to be either.

i think john sterling had said his walk average was lower than 1.5 per 9 innings on the season.

drew0

Fighting Hellfish wrote:

Haven't been paying attention the last few years, huh? That line may have worked in 2002, though.

A-Rod & Damon were still after 2002, and I have been paying attention for awhile. I respect players like Jeter, etc. for being homegrown and such, but with the largest salary cap and baseball, and buying a lot of key players (not all), I just don't respect that.

BetterThanYou

drew0 wrote:

Mussini, Giambi, Damon, A-Rod, Clemens? Yeah, they have homegrown talent, but they still bought all of those stars.

lol, you have 5 people listed and only 2 of them played tonight.

Allie

stpmattb wrote:

I was pulling up to my house, or else I probably would have! Sunday better be a good day....they are 3-0 this year when I've been in attendance!

Oh yes, you're the one getting Pizza, right? Good luck!

JSBE

BetterManningNYG wrote:

and when the yankees won three world series in a row between 1998 and 2000, their "big name" free agent acquisitions were david wells and mike stanton.

those teams were absolute beasts. especially 2000.

the padres didn't stand a chance against them in 98.

stpmattb

Allie wrote:

Oh yes, you're the one getting Pizza, right? Good luck!

That's me! Thank you very much, I hope to have some cool pictures for everyone on Monday

Allie

drew0 wrote:

Try playing the game like real men, and buy and develop players as they grow, instead of waiting for other teams to develop them and then buying them and bragging when they make you win. I have absolute 0 respect for the Yankees, and probably less for their fans. Hell, I could win a World Series given the salary cap they have. When a young, unexperienced team like the Indians is beating a well experienced team like the Yankees whom have been there before, you know this game is about pride and that the Indians deserve this title 100x more than the Yankees. As it was said earlier, considering the batting lineup, the Yankees have 350 postseason appearances - the Indians have 84. Or, if you take away Kenny Lofton, 0.

Let's Go Tribe!

Also, you say this is only the first game. That was against your ace pitcher. Yes, Sabathia didn't pitch great, but we've got a guy almost as good as him coming up tomorrow. We'll see how you far against Carmona before you start saying we got lucky, because we all know how the Indians will fare against Roger Clemens.

ok first, yeah I saw the quote about the postseason appearances on TBS too.
second, the Yankees don't have pride? You think Derek Jeter doesn't have pride?
This team battled back from being 14 1/2 games behind Boston. They have pride and they have heart
and do you know how many players they have 'developed' who are on their postseason roster? Honestly, do you?
Joba, Phil Hughes, Kennedy, Andy, Mo, Jorge, Derek... the list goes on...

ultimately it comes down to pitching and your pitching beat our pitching, tonight. Let's see what happens tomorrow. Andy is money in big games like this. And we didn't buy him, he's a product of the farm system.

drew0

BetterThanYou wrote:

lol, you have 5 people listed and only 2 of them played tonight.

lol, i listed two pitchers.

my point i'm trying to make is that yes, the yankees have homegrown talent. however, they buy do buy a lot of key players - you can't really deny that. is that a bad thing? not necessarily, but i don't have a lot of respect for teams who do such.

Allie

BetterThanYou wrote:

lol, you have 5 people listed and only 2 of them played tonight.

and who's Mussini? It's MussinA

aka: Moose.

Fighting Hellfish

drew0 wrote:

A-Rod & Damon were still after 2002, and I have been paying attention for awhile. I respect players like Jeter, etc. for being homegrown and such, but with the largest salary cap and baseball, and buying a lot of key players (not all), I just don't respect that.

Whoa, 2 guys in 5 years.

That whole "I could win with a $200 mil payroll" argument is just about the stupidest argument in all of sports. It's not like the yankees start with a payroll of 0 and $200 million to spend, then cherrypick who they want on their team.

As for the homegrown agrument, I'd say the Yankees have more homegrown players than 1/2 of the league off the top of my head.

Allie

drew0 wrote:

lol, i listed two pitchers.

my point i'm trying to make is that yes, the yankees have homegrown talent. however, they buy do buy a lot of key players - you can't really deny that. is that a bad thing? not necessarily, but i don't have a lot of respect for teams who do such.

how much did they pay for Kenny Lofton then?