arod 10yr 275 mil w/ the yanks

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  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,237
    igotid88 wrote:
    Like the Red Sox don't have highly paid players.

    Huh, as for the RED SOX not like A-Rod in fact no team pays a player like A-Rod.

    I agree the more a team can evenly distribute their payroll and keep quality players that produce the better their chances of winning.

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  • AstroFan
    AstroFan Posts: 193
    Pearls&Stones wrote:
    Just because Ernie Banks and Ted Williams never won a title doesn't mean it can't be used against A-Rod. They played in an era when it was a lot harder to get to the playoffs, and, in Ernie Banks case, you didn't have free agency to bail you out of a bad team.


    I also think it is no coincidence that the World Series hasn't featured the league's highest player since 1986. Teams that win divide their money wisely.

    It's just evidence that a single player cannot carry a team to a title in baseball. Whether it's because there is no free agency, or because your GM signs trash like Carl Pavano and Jaret Wright to fill the rotation, they are still extenuating circumstances.

    I also posted Ted Williams' line because I know all about the arguement about A-Rod's recent struggles in the playoffs, but struggling with a small sample size does not mean that A-Rod or Ted Williams are/were bad players, or jinxes for their team.

    As for players in the modern era...

    Tony Gwynn, Ken Griffey Jr, Jeff Bagwell, Craig Biggio, Barry Bonds, Mike Piazza, Carlton Fisk, Robin Yount.

    All HOF caliber players; no championships.

    Having a great player usually is not the reason why a team fails to win the World Series.
  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,690
    g under p wrote:
    Huh, as for the RED SOX not like A-Rod in fact no team pays a player like A-Rod.

    I agree the more a team can evenly distribute their payroll and keep quality players that produce the better their chances of winning.

    Peace

    I don't get your first sentence.
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  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    if i'm gonna pay $300 million for one player, i expect championships.....
  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,690
    AstroFan wrote:
    It's just evidence that a single player cannot carry a team to a title in baseball. Whether it's because there is no free agency, or because your GM signs trash like Carl Pavano and Jaret Wright to fill the rotation, they are still extenuating circumstances.

    I also posted Ted Williams' line because I know all about the arguement about A-Rod's recent struggles in the playoffs, but struggling with a small sample size does not mean that A-Rod or Ted Williams are/were bad players, or jinxes for their team.

    As for players in the modern era...

    Tony Gwynn, Ken Griffey Jr, Jeff Bagwell, Craig Biggio, Barry Bonds, Mike Piazza, Carlton Fisk, Robin Yount.

    All HOF caliber players; no championships.

    Having a great player usually is not the reason why a team fails to win the World Series.


    people forget that other guys weren't hitting in the playoffs for the yankees.
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  • AstroFan
    AstroFan Posts: 193
    igotid88 wrote:
    people forget that other guys weren't hitting in the playoffs for the yankees.

    They also forget that ARod has not been the highest paid Yankee on the team, either.

    In 2005, with the money the Rangers were paying, there were 3 guys getting bigger paychecks from the Yankees(Giambi, Mussina, Jeter).

    In 2006 he was 5th highest, behind the aforementioned three, plus Randy Johnson.

    In 2007 he was the 3rd highest, behind Jason Giambi and Derek Jeter.


    He has outplayed all of them.
  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,237
    igotid88 wrote:
    I don't get your first sentence.

    The Red Sox do have high play players but no way near what is or was being paid to A-Rod.

    Peace
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    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

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  • AstroFan
    AstroFan Posts: 193
    g under p wrote:
    The Red Sox do have high play players but no way near what is or was being paid to A-Rod.

    Peace

    They have paid Manny Ramirez more on a yearly basis than the Yankees have paid A-Rod.
  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,690
    g under p wrote:
    The Red Sox do have high play players but no way near what is or was being paid to A-Rod.

    Peace

    But they do overpay. And at least he plays up to his contract. Not unlike some others who get a big payday and forget how to play.
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  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,237
    AstroFan wrote:
    They have paid Manny Ramirez more on a yearly basis than the Yankees have paid A-Rod.

    Where did you get that nonsense. A-Rod, Giambi and Jeter top off highest paid list as Ramirez is 4th.

    Peace
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    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,690
    g under p wrote:
    Where did you get that nonsense. A-Rod, Giambi and Jeter top off highest paid list as Ramirez is 4th.

    Peace

    Of what the Yankees paid A-Rod. Not what he gets from Texas. If you take out the Texas money they were paying him 16 or 17 mil.
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  • AstroFan
    AstroFan Posts: 193
    g under p wrote:
    Where did you get that nonsense. A-Rod, Giambi and Jeter top off highest paid list as Ramirez is 4th.

    Peace

    It's common knowledge that the Rangers have paid part of A-Rod's contract ever since he joined the Yankees.

    A-Rod gets more total money, but since the discussion was about team payroll, it's worth noting that Manny Ramirez received more money from the Red Sox than A-Rod received from the Yankees.
  • Allie
    Allie Posts: 2,908
    is this a done deal?
    Say it ain't so!!! :(
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  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,237
    Shoot I was just hoping he would just go away.

    Peace
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    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,690
    Allie wrote:
    is this a done deal?
    Say it ain't so!!! :(

    it's getting close.
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  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,237
    I gather now that after a renovated/redecorated house my 11 year old daughter's glossy A-Rod poster is going into her new room. Yuck! Long as it doesn't touch none my Red Sox stuff.

    It is a real nice poster though just don't care much for the guy.

    Peace
    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • Fighting Hellfish
    Fighting Hellfish Posts: 3,175
    g under p wrote:
    The Red Sox do have high play players but no way near what is or was being paid to A-Rod.

    Peace

    The last player to get a multiyear contract with an AAV of $20 Million was Manny Ramirez. As noted above, the Yankees have paid ARod approximately $16 million per over the last 4 years, while the Red Sox have paid manny $20 million per. Even the Red Sox think Manny is grossly overpaid. They put him on waivers a few years ago, meaning any team in the league could have claimed him and his contract, gave up absolutely nothing other than the $20 million per to get Manny Ramirez. Not one single team claimed him.

    The Red Sox also paid $52 Million just for the rights to give $50 million to a pitcher who never threw a single pitch in the Majors.
  • boxwine_in_hell
    boxwine_in_hell Posts: 1,263
    Pearls&Stones wrote:


    I also think it is no coincidence that the World Series hasn't featured the league's highest player since 1986.

    Was that Daryl Strawberry? You're right he was the league's highest player. He was high all the time. Or was it Dwight Gooden? Funny, the league's 2 highest players were on the same team.
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  • gregkitefan
    gregkitefan Posts: 1,122
    Fighting Hellfish wrote:
    The last player to get a multiyear contract with an AAV of $20 Million was Manny Ramirez. As noted above, the Yankees have paid ARod approximately $16 million per over the last 4 years, while the Red Sox have paid manny $20 million per. Even the Red Sox think Manny is grossly overpaid. They put him on waivers a few years ago, meaning any team in the league could have claimed him and his contract, gave up absolutely nothing other than the $20 million per to get Manny Ramirez. Not one single team claimed him.

    The Red Sox also paid $52 Million just for the rights to give $50 million to a pitcher who never threw a single pitch in the Majors.

    The 52 million does not go against the payroll for the team.
    Dice won 15 games and helped the Sox win it all.
    Dice making 10 million a year is a bargin when you look at what the
    teams will be paying free agent SP's this year.
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,827
    the ? should be are the 08 yankees better with AROD or without AROD to me the answer is they are better with ........
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....

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