Cnn Admits Obama Got Thumped In Pa.

ledvedderman

Not only unlikely, but Kirk Dillard isn't the moderate Republican the poster claims him to be. He is from a very conservative part of the state.

LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun

this election bores me. the characters have grown stale. Another Clinton? Nader AGAIN?! dragging out this democrat nomination shit is killing the ratings. when is the next one?

VictoryGin

MrSmith wrote:

this election bores me. the characters have grown stale. Another Clinton? Nader AGAIN?! dragging out this democrat nomination shit is killing the ratings. when is the next one?

the brokered democratic national convention involving santos, russell, and hoynes did very well for the ratings. people tune in for drama. look at the debates.

Pacomc79

VictoryGin wrote:

the brokered democratic national convention involving santos, russell, and hoynes did very well for the ratings. people tune in for drama. look at the debates.

Much like all the other worthless "REALITY" shows on TV though..... give me the professionals for my drama.... now that's change I can believe in.

Media shills lobbing softball questions to politicial shills is like watching professional bowling....why?

LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun

VictoryGin wrote:

the brokered democratic national convention involving santos, russell, and hoynes did very well for the ratings. people tune in for drama. look at the debates.

i think the show started going downhill after they offed Romney as the main villian. McCain is kinda dull for the badguy/

slightofjeff

It would be interesting to see what would happen if the primary season were just beginning, instead of ending.

It seems like Hillary has more momentum now than Barry, just not enough to overcome that giant deficit she started out with. I'd bet dollars to donuts if they started it all over again right now, Hillary would beat him in Iowa ... and all those other states he won based off the Iowa momentum would be back in play, too.

I'm not saying this to be negative about Obama. I just think a lot of people who voted for him earlier might not now. It's interesting.

slightofjeff

MrSmith wrote:

i think the show started going downhill after they offed Romney as the main villian. McCain is kinda dull for the badguy/

They should have kept romney and made him grow one of those black, wispy mustaches like the villains in old timey movies. He could have tied Hillary to the train tracks. It would have been great. Especially when nobody came to save her

RainDog

slightofjeff wrote:

It would be interesting to see what would happen if the primary season were just beginning, instead of ending.

It seems like Hillary has more momentum now than Barry, just not enough to overcome that giant deficit she started out with. I'd bet dollars to donuts if they started it all over again right now, Hillary would beat him in Iowa ... and all those other states he won based off the Iowa momentum would be back in play, too.

I'm not saying this to be negative about Obama. I just think a lot of people who voted for him earlier might not now. It's interesting.

Barry? If you're going that route, you should spell it all out - Barry HUSSEIN Osama-lama-ding-dong. Oh, and I believe Hilarious Clinton is offically called PIAPS. Her, B.O. and Jean Francois Cary all belong to the DemonRAT party, alternately known as the dhimmicrats, where they slaughter innocent children for their sodomite gods before declaring fealty to the Islamofacists.

Abookamongstthemany

Pacomc79 wrote:

Much like all the other worthless "REALITY" shows on TV though..... give me the professionals for my drama.... now that's change I can believe in.

Media shills lobbing softball questions to politicial shills is like watching professional bowling....why?

So true

GauchoB

fragileblake wrote:

Uh.....IL, WI, MN, WA, DC/MD plus swing states like MO and VA. I'm not saying her victories haven't been impressive either. Supporters on both sides should stop claiming that the states won by the other candidates somehow don't matter.

ONLY ONE OF THOSE THAT CARRIES MAJOR DELEGATES IS ILLINOIS. GO BACK TO POLI SCI.

GauchoB

ledvedderman wrote:

All of those sum up the state of Pennsylvania perfectly.

The swing moderates that a Democrat needs to win.

GauchoB

fragileblake wrote:

A president and VP from the same state is extremely unlikely. I'll bet you 100 bucks that doesn't happen. Some better choices: Bill Richardson (shore up the latino vote, plus NM is technically a swing state), Jim Webb (good military experience, from VA, a key swinger), Michael Bloomberg (great econ cred, plus he would fit with Obama's conciliatory approach)

Right on here. This is the only guy either candidate should consider as VP. Good call. My call all along.

VictoryGin

slightofjeff wrote:

It would be interesting to see what would happen if the primary season were just beginning, instead of ending.

It seems like Hillary has more momentum now than Barry, just not enough to overcome that giant deficit she started out with. I'd bet dollars to donuts if they started it all over again right now, Hillary would beat him in Iowa ... and all those other states he won based off the Iowa momentum would be back in play, too.

I'm not saying this to be negative about Obama. I just think a lot of people who voted for him earlier might not now. It's interesting.

the winner always has momentum coming right off the win.

did you forget new hampshire was after iowa? i don't recall obama winning that from iowa momentum.

obama supporters don't seem to be as fickle as you imply. they actually believe in him.

VictoryGin

GauchoB wrote:

ONLY ONE OF THOSE THAT CARRIES MAJOR DELEGATES IS ILLINOIS. GO BACK TO POLI SCI.

IF YOU WANT TO FOCUS ON DELEGATES FOR SOME REASON, TEXAS HAS A LOT OF THEM.

ledvedderman

GauchoB wrote:

ONLY ONE OF THOSE THAT CARRIES MAJOR DELEGATES IS ILLINOIS. GO BACK TO POLI SCI.

I am afraid you and the Clinton campaign are the ones who should revisit poli sci. While the Clinton campaign has only cared about big states with a large number of delegates, the Obama campaign hs focused on every state. The grassroots organization has won them numerous states.

The Clinton campaign had NO PLAN for post Super Tuesday. All of this big state talk is nonsense anyway. If Hillary thinks that she is the only Democrat who can win NY, California, NJ, or Mass than she is as clueless as she appears to be. Ohio and Pennsylvania have registered enough new Democrats that no matter who the nominee is, they will have a good shot. Those states are tailor made for Clinton, but if it is Obama-McCain, they would favor Obama. I also like how Clinton thinks her winning Texas means anything. There is no chance in hell of either Democrat carrying Texas.

originalfire

Who really cares? Sorry, but this guy isn't electable come November. If the Democrats nominate him as expected, then McCain unfortunately wins it in a cakewalk. The problem is with Howard Dean and the DNC disinfranchising millions upon millions of voters in Michigan & Florida. This election is shaping up to be as big a disaster as the infamous 1988 Michael Dukakis campaign.

Sounds like I'm a Republican, right? Wrong! I'm a liberal Democrat who can see this train wreck coming from a mile away. What seemed absolutely laughable less than a year ago appears to be coming true: John McCain will be the next President, which makes nobody happy...Democrat or Republican. What is he, about 107 years old?

Obama hasn't won a single big State, except his own home of Illinois. Isn't anybody paying attention to that? It's all hype, and will cost the Democrats the election in November.

VictoryGin

originalfire wrote:

Obama hasn't won a single big State, except his own home of Illinois. Isn't anybody paying attention to that? It's all hype, and will cost the Democrats the election in November.

first of all, again with the big state thing. you think certain big blue states will turn red? ha.

you also seem to forget that obama won texas in the end.

you may also want to consider new states obama could pick up in a general, like, say, oregon.

ledvedderman

VictoryGin wrote:

first of all, again with the big state thing. you think certain big blue states will turn red? ha.

you also seem to forget that obama won texas in the end.

you may also want to consider new states obama could pick up in a general, like, say, oregon.

I agree, and somehow the guy who thinks Jim Webb should be VP thinks that we need to go back to poli sci. Jim Webb would bring nothing to the ticket. Virginia? Which Obama should win anyway?

Do you want ad after ad for a lack of Washington experience with an Obama/Webb ticket? While Webb is against this war, there isn't anything that doesn't make me think he might have his finger on another.

slightofjeff

VictoryGin wrote:

the winner always has momentum coming right off the win.

did you forget new hampshire was after iowa? i don't recall obama winning that from iowa momentum.

obama supporters don't seem to be as fickle as you imply. they actually believe in him.

New Hampshire might as well be called Clinton-sylvania. That was never going to go to Obama. But there were several states in the week after Iowa that were in play, and most people chose to ride the Obama wave, in part because he was the hot candidate at that point. I'm wondering if some (not all) would feel different knowing then what they know now.

He was running as the "change" candidate, the "anti-business as usual" candidate. I think the past few months have shown him to be a politician just like the rest of them. Which isn't a big deal to me, but might be for the idealists that first jumped on the wagon.

slightofjeff

originalfire wrote:

Who really cares? Sorry, but this guy isn't electable come November. If the Democrats nominate him as expected, then McCain unfortunately wins it in a cakewalk. The problem is with Howard Dean and the DNC disinfranchising millions upon millions of voters in Michigan & Florida. This election is shaping up to be as big a disaster as the infamous 1988 Michael Dukakis campaign.

The problem for the Dems, then, is going to be that Hillary is even LESS electable. McCain will kill her. It might make her cry (again).