Cnn Admits Obama Got Thumped In Pa.

GauchoB
GauchoB Posts: 224
edited April 2008 in A Moving Train
Thumped! Lots of big name Democrats will be scratching their ass tonight wondering if they picked the wrong cat.....
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  • lazymoon13
    lazymoon13 Posts: 838
    spinbrett? :)
  • reznors edge
    reznors edge Posts: 136
    It was a good victory for Hillary tonight. Amazing that Obama outspent her 3 to 1. Now let's do something about Florida and Michigan!!
  • OneLove
    OneLove Posts: 563
    GauchoB wrote:
    Thumped! Lots of big name Democrats will be scratching their ass tonight wondering if they picked the wrong cat.....

    ugggg...

    its like watching an extremely slow motion train wreck.
  • Eliot Rosewater
    Eliot Rosewater Posts: 2,659
    OneLove wrote:
    ugggg...

    its like watching an extremely slow motion train wreck.
    Yep...

    every.
    four.
    years.
  • mca47
    mca47 Posts: 13,337
    GauchoB wrote:
    Thumped! Lots of big name Democrats will be scratching their ass tonight wondering if they picked the wrong cat.....

    Big thumping. Unless she picks up superdelagates her "thumping" will just end up being money out of her pocket because she still won't win.
  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    mca47 wrote:
    Big thumping. Unless she picks up superdelagates her "thumping" will just end up being money out of her pocket because she still won't win.

    Well, the theory is that a big thumping would allow more superdelegates to jump on her bandwagon. It will also turn up the fundraising. The race is still on. It certainly doesn't look good for her, but it looks a little better than it did before today's primary.
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  • GauchoB
    GauchoB Posts: 224
    mca47 wrote:
    Big thumping. Unless she picks up superdelagates her "thumping" will just end up being money out of her pocket because she still won't win.

    Say what you want but stupid is not a word ever associated with the Clintons. They know the numbers. Its a convention play. They know it. She can't win on the numbers.....and neither can he. So the game continues...The fact that Obama TV (CNN) finally stepped up and admitted Barry (Barak) has a problem in major states is a big swing. He can't possibly say with a straight face that he is a better choice against McCain anymore if he can't win a single major Democratic state that you have to carry to win as a Democrat. He did not win a SINGLE ONE.

    Should be an interesting couple of weeks and there could be a major shift in thinking in the party. Expect to hear ALOT of talk about Florida and Michigan...
  • fragileblake
    fragileblake Posts: 716
    GauchoB wrote:
    he can't win a single major Democratic state that you have to carry to win as a Democrat. He did not win a SINGLE ONE.

    Uh.....IL, WI, MN, WA, DC/MD plus swing states like MO and VA. I'm not saying her victories haven't been impressive either. Supporters on both sides should stop claiming that the states won by the other candidates somehow don't matter.
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  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    fragileblake wrote:
    Uh.....IL, WI, MN, WA, DC/MD plus swing states like MO and VA. I'm not saying her victories haven't been impressive either. Supporters on both sides should stop claiming that the states won by the other candidates somehow don't matter.

    I agree with this comment. From everything I have read long before this primary mess started is that the three biggest states for Dems this year are Virginia, Pennsylvania, and Missouri.

    As for the PA primary, she did what she had to do. Obama was able to erase a 30 point lead for Clinton and all of their PA connections to 10 in about 7 weeks. That itself is pretty damn impressive. The Clinton camp will spin it that he outspent them 3:1 and still couldn't win, so he must be a flawed candidate. However, he was able to bring the race closer than it was and caused her campaign to spend a lot of money. Now her campaign is in the red, Obama will roll out more supers (like he does after every loss), and he will have a chance to lock this up with wins in IN and NC.
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  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    Clinton won the support of the following:

    Non-college educated

    older 61%

    made up their minds last minute and had ABC debate influence

    Gun owners

    Catholics

    http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/04/22/exit.polls/index.html?iref=mpstoryview
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  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    callen wrote:
    Clinton won the support of the following:

    Non-college educated

    older 61%

    made up their minds last minute and had ABC debate influence

    Gun owners

    Catholics


    http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/04/22/pa.primary/index.html

    All of those sum up the state of Pennsylvania perfectly.
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  • RainDog
    RainDog Posts: 1,824
    In a surprising turn of events.....

    .....Hillary Clinton wins Pennsylvania as expected.






    Well, a few points less than expected, but who's counting......

    .....except that counting determines delegates in a proportional primary.


    On to Guam!!
  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    The Obama is already rolling out a new super delegate, Oklahoma Govornor Brad Henry.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/23/oklahoma-governor-brad-he_n_98156.html
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  • macgyver06
    macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    GauchoB wrote:
    Thumped! Lots of big name Democrats will be scratching their ass tonight wondering if they picked the wrong cat.....



    who is cnn?
  • Pacomc79
    Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    callen wrote:
    Clinton won the support of the following:

    Non-college educated

    older 61%

    made up their minds last minute and had ABC debate influence

    Gun owners

    Catholics

    http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/04/22/exit.polls/index.html?iref=mpstoryview


    Aren't most of those former manufacturing too? They like NAFT(my ass free trade)A?

    How many voted for Hillary because she had female sex organs?
    My Girlfriend said to me..."How many guitars do you need?" and I replied...."How many pairs of shoes do you need?" She got really quiet.
  • jbalicki10
    jbalicki10 Posts: 517
    Does anyone think that Hilary and Obama will talk behind doors?

    It appears Hillary wants to be prez and Obama the VP. (She even stated this)

    Obama wants to stand clear of Hillary as a VP if he runs as the democrat prez. candidate.

    I don't see Obama bowing down and allowing her as the vp. But I do see it forced down his throat. I bet Obama will pick a very liberal REPUBLICAN from Illinois to counter Hillary as the VP.... Guess who???
  • fragileblake
    fragileblake Posts: 716
    jbalicki10 wrote:
    I don't see Obama bowing down and allowing her as the vp. But I do see it forced down his throat. I bet Obama will pick a very liberal REPUBLICAN from Illinois to counter Hillary as the VP.... Guess who???

    A president and VP from the same state is extremely unlikely. I'll bet you 100 bucks that doesn't happen. Some better choices: Bill Richardson (shore up the latino vote, plus NM is technically a swing state), Jim Webb (good military experience, from VA, a key swinger), Michael Bloomberg (great econ cred, plus he would fit with Obama's conciliatory approach)
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  • jbalicki10
    jbalicki10 Posts: 517
    fragileblake wrote:
    A president and VP from the same state is extremely unlikely. I'll bet you 100 bucks that doesn't happen. Some better choices: Bill Richardson (shore up the latino vote, plus NM is technically a swing state), Jim Webb (good military experience, from VA, a key swinger), Michael Bloomberg (great econ cred, plus he would fit with Obama's conciliatory approach)

    I was thinking Kirk Dillard would be his VP. I wouldnt bet on it though. I could see Bloomberg being asked though.
  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    jbalicki10 wrote:
    I was thinking Kirk Dillard would be his VP. I wouldnt bet on it though. I could see Bloomberg being asked though.

    Kirk Dillard? Seriously? Yeah he appeared in an Obama ad, but he is setting himself up for a statewide run of something. He has no federal experience at all. My guess? Kirk Dillard will be running for Congress.

    I think Bill Richardson, or the female gov. from Kansas are a couple good options.
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  • RainDog
    RainDog Posts: 1,824
    fragileblake wrote:
    A president and VP from the same state is extremely unlikely.
    Not only unlikely, but illegal.

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