Prostitution

angelica

Collin wrote:

If you are talking about me, that's the biggest load of crap I've ever seen. If not, continue

Collin, it's always an honour to see your wonderful wit, and fine usage of the English language!!

unifiedscene

decides2dream wrote:

i agree with all your points, except the part i bolded.
sure, it may be 'easy' to think that...but it isn't necessarily true. and THAT is a whole other discussion as well.

the bolded part was just a joke

unifiedscene

scb wrote:

This reminds me of that scene in Silence of the Lambs where the crazy guy was keeping the woman in the dungeon and kept referring to her in the 3rd person, as "it". :eek:

It creeps the hell out of my girlfriend when I start telling her that "it puts the lotion on its skin or else it gets the hose!"

Anyway, all this talk of objectifying women's sexy, gorgeous bodies... I'm going to throw on a porno. Y'all have a nice night!

decides2dream

unifiedscene wrote:

the bolded part was just a joke

well within the context of what overall seemed a pretty serious post....ANd no signify such..i felt it safe to make my comments, which btw, i DID add a .


anyhoo...great!
and i said, i agree!

kenny olav

polaris wrote:

i see this a kin to abortion ... you may not approve of the process but the reality is that it is not up for you to decide what another person does with her body ...

yes - there are issues of forced prostitution which i think could be addressed slightly by making it legal and regulating the industry ...

i can't read through all of the last 7 or 8 pages (though I might later), so i will just touch on what polaris said here.

i don't think organized prostitution should be legal. i don't think pimps should profit from it. but if one adults consents with another adult (or multiple adults)... they should have the freedom to do so.

i'd say the same thing about gambling. i don't think casinos should exist anywhere. but should friends be prevented from playing poker? of course not. especially not if it's strip poker.

Byrnzie

What anyone chooses to do with their own body is their own business. If I choose to put a particular drug into my body then that's my choice. It doesn't effect anyone else. And If I choose to have sex for money then again it's my own choice.
People need to stop concerning themselves so much with the lives of others. Prostitution doesn't effect anyone but the people choosing to partake in it. The same goes with drugs. The only problems that occur are when other people begin interfering because they are incapable of minding their own business.

catefrances

Byrnzie wrote:

What anyone chooses to do with their own body is their own business. If I choose to put a particular drug into my body then that's my choice. It doesn't effect anyone else. And If I choose to have sex for money then again it's my own choice....

so how much do you charge steve? and what do i get for that?

Sweet Emotion

Kenny Olav wrote:

i can't read through all of the last 7 or 8 pages (though I might later), so i will just touch on what polaris said here.

i don't think organized prostitution should be legal. i don't think pimps should profit from it. but if one adults consents with another adult (or multiple adults)... they should have the freedom to do so.

i'd say the same thing about gambling. i don't think casinos should exist anywhere. but should friends be prevented from playing poker? of course not. especially not if it's strip poker.

Legalize everything that doesn't hurt anyone. The good lawd imbued us all, everyone, with intellect and free will. The freedom to choose for oneself. Be it whim or survival. So be a prostitute or just visit one. We have to begin accepting responsibility for our own actions -including fighting back against the morals police that would bully everyone to impose their own narrow behavioral scope on society "for it's own good". If you want to play the ponies, or 'craps', or blow a joint, or pay to shoot a load into a stranger, go for it, and go for it with gusto. I know prostitutes, strippers & porn actresses in several countries and they're some of the coolest, happiest people around. The party doesn't end. Who the hell is anybody to tell me that their law is more important than my own?

Collin

VictoryGin wrote:

men can be oppressed in racial and class ways.

What about the example I gave earlier. Everytime I go out to a party I have to pay. Girls get in for free.

Injustice based on gender.

Byrnzie

catefrances wrote:

so how much do you charge steve? and what do i get for that?

Ahem, well, I'll have to send you my special glossy brochure.

Collin

scb wrote:

Aw... you DO pay attention! I'm flattered!

Hey, man, you've gotta pay for your opportunity to objectify the hot young women in those parties!

Touché

Yeah, I don't think we'll ever 100% get rid of prostitution, but it's because I don't think we'll ever 100% get rid of objectification.

I think it's all very complicated and multi-faceted and, since you quoted VG, I'll say I think she would agree.

And if we get rid of objectification 100%?

Anon

Collin wrote:

What about the example I gave earlier. Everytime I go out to a party I have to pay. Girls get in for free.

Injustice based on gender.

Where do you live Collin? No one pays to go to parties here? Well at least no one i hang out with. I don't follow?

Byrnzie

Sweet Emotion wrote:

Legalize everything that doesn't hurt anyone. The good lawd imbued us all, everyone, with intellect and free will. The freedom to choose for oneself. Be it whim or survival. So be a prostitute or just visit one. We have to begin accepting responsibility for our own actions -including fighting back against the morals police that would bully everyone to impose their own narrow behavioral scope on society "for it's own good". If you want to play the ponies, or 'craps', or blow a joint, or pay to shoot a load into a stranger, go for it, and go for it with gusto. I know prostitutes, strippers & porn actresses in several countries and they're some of the coolest, happiest people around. The party doesn't end. Who the hell is anybody to tell me that their law is more important than my own?

Well said.

Kel Varnsen

Collin wrote:

And if we get rid of objectification 100%?

I am curious, what exactly do people think is the difference between appreciating someone's beauty and objectifying them?

Anon

Kel Varnsen wrote:

I am curious, what exactly do people think is the difference between appreciating someone's beauty and objectifying them?

about 6 beers?

Collin

Pj_Gurl wrote:

Where do you live Collin? No one pays to go to parties here? Well at least no one i hang out with. I don't follow?

Do you hang out with girls? Because they indeed don't pay

Anyway, I don't think my location matters, but I live in the Czech Republic now. Sometimes I even have to pay extra because I'm a foreigner too.

angelica

Kel Varnsen wrote:

I am curious, what exactly do people think is the difference between appreciating someone's beauty and objectifying them?

It's great to appreciate someone's beauty! I do this all the time, male or female. As long as you see them as human beings with feelings, and attempt to connect with their thoughts, feelings and intuitions as well.

someone viewing pornography is not doing this, for example. And it's been shown this type of thing increases desensitization to the humanity of women.

Anon

Collin wrote:

Do you hang out with girls? Because they indeed don't pay

Anyway, I don't think my location matters, but I live in the Czech Republic now. Sometimes I even have to pay extra because I'm a foreigner too.

I think i missed something, but i'm gonna quit while i'm ahead , and boo with the paying extra!

Kel Varnsen

angelica wrote:

It's great to appreciate someone's beauty! I do this all the time, male or female. As long as you see them as human beings with feelings, and attempt to connect with their thoughts, feelings and intuitions as well.

someone viewing pornography is not doing this, for example. And it's been shown this type of thing increases desensitization to the humanity of women.

So are you saying that if there is someone on tv or in a movie, it is wrong to think they are hot? Because there is no possible way for me to connect to their thoughts of feelings?

petrocs

I think it should be free