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Should it be legal or illegal?
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  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    Legal.
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  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    legal
  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    Probably legal, but I'm not going to spend a lot of time or effort to try and get that passed.
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  • geniegenie Posts: 2,222
    i'd say legal, but then who is going to protect all those women who are being trafficked (and children)and then sold to sex slavery. so my answer is that it can be legalised as long as there is a law to protect those that don't consent to prostitution.
  • jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    As long as we're talking about 2 consenting adults entering into a contract it should absolutely be legal.
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  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    genie wrote:
    i'd say legal, but then who is going to protect all those women who are being trafficked (and children)and then sold to sex slavery. so my answer is that it can be legalised as long as there is a law to protect those that don't consent to prostitution.

    Well just as a street vendor would need a license to operate, so would a prostitute. This can be used as a means to prevent illegal sex slaves and underage prostitutes.
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  • RainDogRainDog Posts: 1,824
    Legal, but with regulations/restrictions - i.e. minimum age requirements for both the prostitutes and the johns, manditory health screenings for the prostitutes, etc. Oh, and replace the pimps with union bosses. Call 'em the USWA (United Sex Workers Association) or something.
  • geniegenie Posts: 2,222
    mammasan wrote:
    Well just as a street vendor would need a license to operate, so would a prostitute. This can be used as a means to prevent illegal sex slaves and underage prostitutes.

    i guess so, and it should be closely monitored
  • jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    RainDog wrote:
    Oh, and replace the pimps with union bosses. Call 'em the USWA (United Sex Workers Association) or something.

    I thought union bosses were already pimps of a sort so this shouldn't be a stretch.
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  • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 13,541
    legalize it
  • WildsWilds Posts: 4,329
    Legal.
  • geniegenie Posts: 2,222
    hehe if they do then i should get a job 'closely' monitoring brothels and what they get upto :D
  • RainDogRainDog Posts: 1,824
    jeffbr wrote:
    I thought union bosses were already pimps of a sort so this shouldn't be a stretch.
    Good to see someone gets my jokes.
  • Kel VarnsenKel Varnsen Posts: 1,952
    jeffbr wrote:
    As long as we're talking about 2 consenting adults entering into a contract it should absolutely be legal.


    That is what I have always thought. I mean right now if a prostitute gets paid for sex laws are being broken, but if a porn star does the exact same thing and it is all nice and legal. How does that make any sense?
  • lalalalaaaaaaaalalalalaaaaaaaa Posts: 2,445
    Legal...I don't even see how it's debatable, really. The only problems that arise with prostitution happen because it's illegal.

    Dunno when it'll ever happen though....no one wants to really fight for the safety of prostitutes nor the privilege to pay for sex.
  • polarispolaris Posts: 3,527
    i guess the bigger question then is - should it be regulated?
  • ThecureThecure Posts: 814
    i say legal.

    i think that theer are many issues around prostition that have to be looked at. to begin, protection of teh men and women who are selling themselves for money. in canada, having sex for money is legal but teh act of selling oneself is not. also have a brothel is illigal in canada and so is living off teh avails of prostition is illigal so you can't have a pimp. howver, for many men and women who are sex workers want a saef place to bring johns to such as a brothel but they can't legally. teh same issues arises with pimps, soem women and men want that protection but you must worry that pimps will take advanatage of teh people.

    i think what truely needs to happen is that police are taught how to handle sex workesr and understand teh issues that they face.
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  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    polaris wrote:
    i guess the bigger question then is - should it be regulated?

    It should be just as any other industry in this country is.
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  • lalalalaaaaaaaalalalalaaaaaaaa Posts: 2,445
    polaris wrote:
    i guess the bigger question then is - should it be regulated?
    All legal trade is regulated as far as I know.
  • LikeAnOceanLikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    Isn't marriage essentially prostitution in most cases?, starting off from the first date where the guy pays.


    :p
  • SoonForgotten2SoonForgotten2 Posts: 2,245
    Thecure wrote:
    i say legal.

    i think that theer are many issues around prostition that have to be looked at. to begin, protection of teh men and women who are selling themselves for money. in canada, having sex for money is legal but teh act of selling oneself is not. also have a brothel is illigal in canada and so is living off teh avails of prostition is illigal so you can't have a pimp. howver, for many men and women who are sex workers want a saef place to bring johns to such as a brothel but they can't legally. teh same issues arises with pimps, soem women and men want that protection but you must worry that pimps will take advanatage of teh people.

    i think what truely needs to happen is that police are taught how to handle sex workesr and understand teh issues that they face.

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  • JOEJOEJOEJOEJOEJOE Posts: 10,725
    Kel Varnsen wrote:
    That is what I have always thought. I mean right now if a prostitute gets paid for sex laws are being broken, but if a porn star does the exact same thing and it is all nice and legal. How does that make any sense?

    So if you film your session with a hooker, maybe it is legal!

    Some consider prostitution an immoral act....I think that is from where the laws stem.
  • PJPATPJPAT Posts: 399
    LikeAnOcean wrote:
    Isn't marriage essentially prostitution in most cases?, starting off from the first date where the guy pays.


    :p

    Not really because when you get married sex is limited.

    Do you know why a bride is smiling when she is walking down the aisle to get married? It is beacuse she has given her last BJ.

    I think this should be legal but needs to be cleaned up of the diseases, drugs and pimps that come with it. It is the oldest profession and jobs are needed and this would bring jobs for sure.
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  • Drowned OutDrowned Out Posts: 6,056
    Kel Varnsen wrote:
    That is what I have always thought. I mean right now if a prostitute gets paid for sex laws are being broken, but if a porn star does the exact same thing and it is all nice and legal. How does that make any sense?

    I'm not sure if it's Canada-wide,...but I don't think exchanging money for sex is illegal...it's the communication that's illegal. In other words...you could hand someone money and have sex with them as long as you don't speak about it...as soon as you make an offer, or she gives you a price, then it's illegal.....which is even stupider. 'living off the avails' is the pimp law, which is pretty fuckin arbitrary as well....Not sure how they get around that with porn...

    and yes....legalize it. another morality-based law that should not be on the books.
  • saveuplifesaveuplife Posts: 1,173
    I have a tough time answering this. I absolutely lean towards legal at first because I don't think the government should be interfering here and because they can't really stop it so resources should not be wated. However, I've been to Amsterdam and I do have to say it's very disgusting/depressing in the red light district. The plus of having it illegal is that it doesn't get promoted the way it does in Amsterdam.

    I'll be honest, this is one issue where I just can't make up my mind. I can see the pluses and minuses of both sides.

    I suppose if I had to say, I'd go legal with a large large degree of hesitation.
  • WildsWilds Posts: 4,329
    saveuplife wrote:
    I have a tough time answering this. I absolutely lean towards legal at first because I don't think the government should be interfering here and because they can't really stop it so resources should not be wated. However, I've been to Amsterdam and I do have to say it's very disgusting/depressing in the red light district. The plus of having it illegal is that it doesn't get promoted the way it does in Amsterdam.

    I'll be honest, this is one issue where I just can't make up my mind. I can see the pluses and minuses of both sides.

    I suppose if I had to say, I'd go legal with a large large degree of hesitation.

    Also you could choose to stay out of the red light district.

    If it was legalized I don't think you would have McDonalds on one side, a brothel in the middle and a Chuck E Cheese on the other.

    It would be regulated and not in your face I would imagine.
  • Jeremy1012Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    Legal.

    Oldest profession in the world. It will never be stamped out. At least make things a bit safer for the people doing it. Legal, monitored brothels with compulsory STI tests and safety alarms are the way forward. They do it in plenty of countries, why not all of them.
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  • WildsWilds Posts: 4,329
    hartamh wrote:
    Is this male and female??? :eek:

    Well if they legalize this. Can you imagine what other things would be?? :eek:

    of course it's male and female. And I can't imagine what other things would be as a result of this. Enlighten me?
  • Kel VarnsenKel Varnsen Posts: 1,952
    Drowned Out wrote:
    I'm not sure if it's Canada-wide,...but I don't think exchanging money for sex is illegal...it's the communication that's illegal. In other words...you could hand someone money and have sex with them as long as you don't speak about it...as soon as you make an offer, or she gives you a price, then it's illegal.....which is even stupider. 'living off the avails' is the pimp law, which is pretty fuckin arbitrary as well....Not sure how they get around that with porn...

    and yes....legalize it. another morality-based law that should not be on the books.


    Yea I knew that in most places that the solitication is the crime. But either way if if a prostitute and a john make an agreement fo sex it is a crime, but a porn star can legally sign a contract to have sex for money. The only big difference is that porn stars don't seem to be easy targets for people like Robert Pickton.
  • lalalalaaaaaaaalalalalaaaaaaaa Posts: 2,445
    saveuplife wrote:
    I have a tough time answering this. I absolutely lean towards legal at first because I don't think the government should be interfering here and because they can't really stop it so resources should not be wated. However, I've been to Amsterdam and I do have to say it's very disgusting/depressing in the red light district. The plus of having it illegal is that it doesn't get promoted the way it does in Amsterdam.

    I'll be honest, this is one issue where I just can't make up my mind. I can see the pluses and minuses of both sides.

    I suppose if I had to say, I'd go legal with a large large degree of hesitation.
    The red light district is nasty, but that's a separate issue from prostitution. The people in any town can regulate stuff like that through zoning. The town I grew up in doesn't allow any strip clubs to operate for example. I'm willing to bet that if prostitution was made legal in the U.S., call girls would pretty much dominate the industry, and we wouldn't see too many red light districts.

    I think the question of legality should be based on things like safety and security for the people involved.
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