Whites Fading Fast As Majority In US

chopitdown

bootlegger10 wrote:

Going to facebook only proves you are a douchebag, not white or not.

i would think that your response is more indicative of being a douchebag than going to facebook...but that's just me.

LONGRD

CorporateWhore wrote:

It's not nice to call people names. Sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me.

Black folks were brought here against their will, and they became a part of this nation because of that. There's no changing that. They've been here longer than the Irish, Italians, Jews, etc.

But, 50 years ago, this country was 90/10 white/black. And now we're inviting millions from third world countries that have never been assimilated into this nation before.

All I'm asking is: why? The burden of proof is on those who want this change. Does that kind of diversity really help matters? Studies prove that it does not.

When slavery ended, there were many immigrants who were brought here for cheap labors.

The reason why there are so many "colored" immigrants over here in the last 50 years is because most of these immigrants are refugees of war. They don't have a place to call home anymore. And being that the United States were involved these wars, many of the refugees are sponsored here by American families and Christian groups.

And believe me, there are plenty of Christian missionary workers in those third world country to teach them a thing or two about the U.S. of A.

I don't know about illegal immigration control but the best way to keep legal immigration down is to not get involve in anymore WARS.

bootlegger10

chopitdown wrote:

i would think that your response is more indicative of being a douchebag than going to facebook...but that's just me.

Ha. Sorry, I just don't like this Facebook/Youtube generation. It is getting a little ridiculous.

mammasan

bootlegger10 wrote:

Sure, there are reasons for neighborhoods going under, which a big one is economic conditions. Last time I checked though, poor people could still keep their pride and not turn to crime. It is people who make neighborhoods go under. I didn't realize that walking through Gary, IN would be dangerous because the steel mills left. All this time I thought it was because of the people and their guns, but it was all because a steel mill left.

It is not the economy patrolling the streets ensuring that everyone knows what territory is theirs. I believe that would be gang members (people). The economy does not take drugs and turn to crime. People do.

Sorry, letting more immigrants in from countries where gangs are prevalent and laws are not, does not help. Sure, the majority of immigrants are law abiding citizens (accept for their path here), but they need to assimilate and not form New Ecuador or something.

You don't need to be an elite here with your "Uneducated" comments. You can keep trying to hide from the fact that people make decisions, and not the government for them.

I never mentioned, or even alluded to, the fact that people should be responsible for their actions. You stated that immigration is the reason why neighborhoods decay when in fact it is economics. I have noticed in my area that immigrants have taken run down decaying neighborhoods and re-juvinated them. In NYC alone there have been many neighborhoods that where run down and in comes a large Asian, Hispanic or Indian population and returns life back to the neighborhood. Newark, NJ is another example. Newark was a run down lost city. A few decades ago a large Portugese and Brazilian population moves into the Ironbound district and now it is one of the liveliest and profitable neighborhoods in Newark. It is because of these immigrant communities that businesses have returned to the area. Without all the hard work that they put in to clean up and improve the neighborhood we would never had the New Jersey Performing Arts Center or the new Prudential Center.
So my "uneducated" comment was not made because I have some elitist attitude but because I know better than to generalize and state that immigrants some how make this country worse. Yes there are criminals amongst us but just like any other walk of life.

South of Seattle

LongRd. wrote:

When slavery ended, there were many immigrants who were brought here for cheap labors.

The reason why there are so many "colored" immigrants over here in the last 50 years is because most of these immigrants are refugees of war. They don't have a place to call home anymore. And being that the United States were involved these wars, many of the refugees are sponsored here by American families and Christian groups.

And believe me, there are plenty of Christian missionary workers in those third world country to teach them a thing or two about the U.S. of A.

I don't know about illegal immigration control but the best way to keep legal immigration down is to not get involve in anymore WARS.

Yep, because without an unjust war I wouldn't have even been born

OutOfBreath

CorporateWhore wrote:

I assume you are joking, as the KKK is a completely marginalized organization that is almost universally despised by the vast majority of white people.

At the same time, the NAACP and La Raza are well-respected organizations that command the attention and appeals of presidential candidates. Blacks and hispanics universally love those two organizations.

There is no comparison. Whitey is a clown who may not form political organizations based on his race, while non-whites have every right to do so. Really shows you who's got the power in America and who is on the way out, just as the title of this thread indicates.

My point was merely to show that organization is not a trait exclusive of the immigrants, and that "whites" have had far worse in xenophobic outbursts.

And NAACP is no comparison to KKK that's true, but not just because one's illegal and the other's not. You dont have much of a white "WAACP", for the same reason you dont have labour unions for kings... there is a difference between an organization working for ending an injustice, thus promoting the current/previous receivers of injustice, over paranoid "they're coming to get us, so we better get them first" which seems to be the "white" preference.

The NAACP may arguably have worked itself out of a job, but it is still not that many decades since it was a necessity, and many people still live that were alive back then and remembers that.

In any case, this is largely on the side of your argument that seems to center on that it's not you but "they" that are the racists. On the grounds that there are organizations and groups you (highly arguable) deem as racist that are associated to some of "their" people. If that's the argument, then my KKK countering is just as valid as there are doubtless whites that run that one, and since whites run that one, all whites are racist, right? That's the level of your argument here. And for appearances it's just a straw argument anyway. You seem to be concerned with the whiteness of american society as an indicator to how good it is.

And as some have pointed out before, it isn't like latinos are that much different historically or culturally. Latinos are descendants of southern european countries mixed with indians, whereas "white americans" are northern european countries mixed with indians. In this light, the essentialist idea of people and their fundamental genetic social ways is meaningless as everything goes back to the same lands in europe anyway. You are 80% "white" anyway in the foreseeable future.

Peace
Dan

NMyTree

I really want to create a "Stuff Non-White People Like" webpage.

It would be a blast.

rebornFixer

NMyTree wrote:

I really want to create a "Stuff Non-White People Like" webpage.

It would be a blast.

I'll help out with that ...

rebornFixer

in_hiding79 wrote:

because it won't....

Um, yes it will.

LONGRD

South of Seattle wrote:

Yep, because without an unjust war I wouldn't have even been born

SOS, I think someone like yourself is a great example of what we can expect in 50 years or so. They're so many biracial and multiracial people right now and this group of people are just growing. The definition of white, black, Hispanic, Asian, etc will be harder to categorized by then.

Tiger Woods is mostly known for being the first successful black golfer yet he looks more Southeast Asian than black because of his Thai mother.

Alicia Keys(half-white) known as a popular black musician yet I'm even darker than she is. :eek:

I'd like to see what percentage of mix-race population make up the 2010 consensus in the U.S.

CorporateWhore

LongRd. wrote:

SOS, I think someone like yourself is a great example of what we can expect in 50 years or so.

Great example of what? Of the average person? It's going to take a lot longer than that to get rid of pasty white boys such as myself.

LONGRD

CorporateWhore wrote:

Great example of what? Of the average person? It's going to take a lot longer than that to get rid of pasty white boys such as myself.

I never said anything about getting "rid of pasty white boys" and I'd never advocate such an act like that.

Mix-race people like SOS is a great example of how diverse our nation is.
mamasan makes a great post here.
http://forums.pearljam.com/showpost.php?p=5770166&postcount=86
I'm kinda thankful for the Hispanic and East Indian migration in my city and county. Business and lifestyle picked up since they arrived; it's not a boring old retirement residential city/county anymore.

Can't always look at the negative stuff some bring but you'll get that with every group.

OutOfBreath

NMyTree wrote:

I really want to create a "Stuff Non-White People Like" webpage.

It would be a blast.

In the name of tolerance, I promise to find it just as trite as the "stuff white people like". No discrimination from me here...

Peace
Dan

fanch75

LongRd. wrote:

Tiger Woods is mostly known for being the first successful black golfer yet he looks more Southeast Asian than black because of his Thai mother.

I bet when Tiger's mom brought home her man, her Southeast Asian grandmother nearly had a heart attack.

fanch75

LongRd. wrote:

I'm kinda thankful for the Hispanic and East Indian migration in my city and county. Business and lifestyle picked up since they arrived; it's not a boring old retirement residential city/county anymore.

It's a fact that many immigrants have arrived, set up businesses, and thrived. Family-oriented, too, eager to help their brother man. More "American" than many of the jaded indigenous population, on welfare, unplanned children, poor work ethic, etc.