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just remeber, when you bash Christ, you don't get 40 lashes

810wmb810wmb Posts: 849
edited November 2007 in A Moving Train
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23423342-details/Teddy+bear+teacher+appears+in+court+as+Islamic+fanatics+demand+execution/article.do


you can also name a teddy bear "Jesus" without fear


oh yeah, i can't spell "remember" either
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  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,761
    No...we get sent to hell

    I'll take the lashings please.
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  • 810wmb810wmb Posts: 849
    you don't get sent to hell for bashing Jesus, you get sent to hell for not believing and following Him
    i'm the meat, yer not...signed Capt Asshat
  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    810wmb wrote:
    http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23423342-details/Teddy+bear+teacher+appears+in+court+as+Islamic+fanatics+demand+execution/article.do


    you can also name a teddy bear "Jesus" without fear


    oh yeah, i can't spell "remember" either

    Hey maybe some of those people enjoy the lashes. Much cheaper to just say "Fuck Allah" than paying a good dominatrix to do it.
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  • 810wmb810wmb Posts: 849
    mammasan wrote:
    Hey maybe some of those people enjoy the lashes. Much cheaper to just say "Fuck Allah" than paying a good dominatrix to do it.


    good point!
    i'm the meat, yer not...signed Capt Asshat
  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    810wmb wrote:
    good point!

    Also this more of an example of mankind, more specifically a government, corrupting a religion in order to oppress it's people. Islam is no better or worse a religion than Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism, etc.. The problem is that to many oppressive regimes around the world use Islam to control it's people and indoctrinate them from birth to think that their distorted interpretation of Islam is the true form of the religion. You can damn Allah and Mohammed every waking moment in any country that provides a free society and not suffer from being lashed. That just proves that the problem is governments not the religion itself.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • RainDogRainDog Posts: 1,824
    I'll keep the original post in mind when I decide to move to the Sudan.

    Until then, I plan on being a finger in the eye of religious fanatics in my own back yard, thanks.
  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    lashes heal... hell is forever...
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSunLikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    hell has the best bands. The porn is better too
  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    that's fucking ridiculous. you can name all 19 of your kids mohammed but if a teacher lets her class vote to name a teddy bear and they pick mohammed you get lashed?
  • NMyTreeNMyTree Posts: 2,374
    810wmb wrote:
    you don't get sent to hell for bashing Jesus, you get sent to hell for not believing and following Him

    So an all loving god sends the people/souls he allegedly loves and created in his own image, to hell; for not believing in him or following him? Wow, what an egomaniac! Exactly what kind of love would that be?

    Sounds exactly like the kind of "love" that smacks the wifey upside the head and punches her in the face, if dinner isn't on the table by exactly 5:30 PM and if she dares to talk back. Ah yes, that kind of love:rolleyes:



    Human character flaws and human weaknesses attributed to and applied to an alleged "God". Maybe because it was written by a human being?

    Nah, I'm talking crazy talk, here.
  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    bomb Iraq for Jesus...
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  • even flow?even flow? Posts: 8,066
    I couldn't register my dog's name, god or jesus. Go figure!
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  • NMyTreeNMyTree Posts: 2,374
    If Blackwater Militia had their way, I would executed for my previous post.
  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,761
    810wmb wrote:
    just remeber, when you bash Christ, you don't get 40 lashes

    Try bashing Christ in a Catholic school and see how many lashings you get.
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  • NCfanNCfan Posts: 945
    mammasan wrote:
    Also this more of an example of mankind, more specifically a government, corrupting a religion in order to oppress it's people. Islam is no better or worse a religion than Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism, etc.. The problem is that to many oppressive regimes around the world use Islam to control it's people and indoctrinate them from birth to think that their distorted interpretation of Islam is the true form of the religion. You can damn Allah and Mohammed every waking moment in any country that provides a free society and not suffer from being lashed. That just proves that the problem is governments not the religion itself.

    Right on! It's the people in power that are shoving this shit down the throats of those that are not. It's funny because the more the world opens up (globalization) the more people will be able to detect their own oppression. This is how the Soviet Union fell, and this is how radical religous govermental regimes will fall as well.

    I really believe a day will come, many decades from now where this type of bullshit doesn't exist anymore - at least not on the level of a country's governement.

    I mean, a national government that rules by religious edict is so fucking flawed and transparently backwards.
  • NCfanNCfan Posts: 945
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    bomb Iraq for Jesus...[/quoteN

    Nice cheap shot!
  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    ledvedderman wrote:
    Try bashing Christ in a Catholic school and see how many lashings you get.

    you must've grown up in the old catholic school days. i never once was lashed, saw anyone lashed, or heard of anyone being lashed in 13 years of catholic school.

    however, as someone pointed out, this has far less to do with religion and far more to do with poor government.
  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    NCfan wrote:
    Right on! It's the people in power that are shoving this shit down the throats of those that are not. It's funny because the more the world opens up (globalization) the more people will be able to detect their own oppression. This is how the Soviet Union fell, and this is how radical religous govermental regimes will fall as well.

    I really believe a day will come, many decades from now where this type of bullshit doesn't exist anymore - at least not on the level of a country's governement.

    I mean, a national government that rules by religious edict is so fucking flawed and transparently backwards.

    I hope so too. I truely feel deep sorrow for the people who have to suffer under such oppression. The really sad part is that many don't even realize that they are being oppressed simply because they have been brainwashed from the moment they left the womb that this is the only way to live.
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  • surferdudesurferdude Posts: 2,057
    ledvedderman wrote:
    No...we get sent to hell.
    Umm, you're only told you'll be sent to hell. I've been told I'm immoral for eating meat. I don't act like vegegtarians should be shot and quartered or outlawed from their belief.
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  • blackredyellowblackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    When I bash Mohammed, I don't get 40 lashes either...
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  • MakingWavesMakingWaves Posts: 1,293
    ledvedderman wrote:
    Try bashing Christ in a Catholic school and see how many lashings you get.

    Zero. It isn't the 1960's anymore, although I wish they could still paddle kids in school.
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    soulsinging wrote:
    that's fucking ridiculous. you can name all 19 of your kids mohammed but if a teacher lets her class vote to name a teddy bear and they pick mohammed you get lashed?

    LMAO!! this is what i was going to say.

    in christianity you are not supposed to name your kids jesus, yet it happens in south america and central america all of the time, only its pronounced "hey-zeus"

    muslims name their children mohammad all of the time.

    yet in both religions you can not name an inatimate object jesus or mohammad?? the way i was taught, people should not be named after these sacred people because they are destined to fail in living up to those names. to me, it would almost be better the name something that can not screw up (like a teddy bear) after these sacred beings.
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  • NMyTreeNMyTree Posts: 2,374
    I named one of my hockey pucks....... Mohammad.

    Great fun slapping Mohammad around.
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    810wmb wrote:
    http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23423342-details/Teddy+bear+teacher+appears+in+court+as+Islamic+fanatics+demand+execution/article.do


    you can also name a teddy bear "Jesus" without fear


    oh yeah, i can't spell "remember" either
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  • malabogiamalabogia Posts: 59
    mammasan wrote:
    Also this more of an example of mankind, more specifically a government, corrupting a religion in order to oppress it's people. Islam is no better or worse a religion than Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism, etc.. The problem is that to many oppressive regimes around the world use Islam to control it's people and indoctrinate them from birth to think that their distorted interpretation of Islam is the true form of the religion. You can damn Allah and Mohammed every waking moment in any country that provides a free society and not suffer from being lashed. That just proves that the problem is governments not the religion itself.
    I must disagree to this. Humans always abuse things when they see a benefit for themselves. It is in the nature of humankind. It is the religions that has a lot of flaw in it, a lot of empty spaces to fill in that anyone in power who won't use that should be crazy.
    the religion should be so perfect, so complete, leave no space to abuse like god itself so that humans or governments cannot abuse it.
    you think since the creator of religion is God itself, an example of perfection, it should not be so hard to create a religion like that...Well, but there is none around so far...
    Welcome to atheism :D
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  • NoKNoK Posts: 824
    malabogia wrote:
    I must disagree to this. Humans always abuse things when they see a benefit for themselves. It is in the nature of humankind. It is the religions that has a lot of flaw in it, a lot of empty spaces to fill in that anyone in power who won't use that should be crazy.
    the religion should be so perfect, so complete, leave no space to abuse like god itself so that humans or governments cannot abuse it.
    you think since the creator of religion is God itself, an example of perfection, it should not be so hard to create a religion like that...Well, but there is none around so far...
    Welcome to atheism :D

    These religions could be perfect but imperfections in humans could result in comprehending perfection in an imperfect way. Hope that makes sense to you.
  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    malabogia wrote:
    I must disagree to this. Humans always abuse things when they see a benefit for themselves. It is in the nature of humankind. It is the religions that has a lot of flaw in it, a lot of empty spaces to fill in that anyone in power who won't use that should be crazy.
    the religion should be so perfect, so complete, leave no space to abuse like god itself so that humans or governments cannot abuse it.
    you think since the creator of religion is God itself, an example of perfection, it should not be so hard to create a religion like that...Well, but there is none around so far...
    Welcome to atheism :D

    The religion itself may have been perfect. Over time mankind has taken what he wants from the earliest teachings and morphed it into what fits him best. Take the teachings of Jesus Christ. Look how far his teaching have been distorted throughout history by mankind. What he preached could be considered perfect. Love thy neighbor and treat others as you wish to be treated. Simple and perfect, but it was mankind who took this and transformed it into what best fit his agenda. Same goes with Islam or Judaism or any other religion. We will never know what the true intent or message of the original preachers where because man and time have earased it and all we have left is what has been distorted through the ages by greed, power and corruption. So mankind is to blame, not the religion itself.
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  • SoonForgotten2SoonForgotten2 Posts: 2,245
    mammasan wrote:
    I hope so too. I truely feel deep sorrow for the people who have to suffer under such oppression. The really sad part is that many don't even realize that they are being oppressed simply because they have been brainwashed from the moment they left the womb that this is the only way to live.

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  • malabogiamalabogia Posts: 59
    NoK wrote:
    These religions could be perfect but imperfections in humans could result in comprehending perfection in an imperfect way. Hope that makes sense to you.
    hmmm...No I don't get it. Sorry, my bad :)
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  • malabogiamalabogia Posts: 59
    mammasan wrote:
    The religion itself may have been perfect. Over time mankind has taken what he wants from the earliest teachings and morphed it into what fits him best. Take the teachings of Jesus Christ. Look how far his teaching have been distorted throughout history by mankind. What he preached could be considered perfect. Love thy neighbor and treat others as you wish to be treated. Simple and perfect, but it was mankind who took this and transformed it into what best fit his agenda. Same goes with Islam or Judaism or any other religion. We will never know what the true intent or message of the original preachers where because man and time have earased it and all we have left is what has been distorted through the ages by greed, power and corruption. So mankind is to blame, not the religion itself.
    do you know that Quaran, the holy book of islam, claims that it cannot be changed anyway, not even a word of it, because it is Allah's word and Allah protects it from being changed. Here is the perfect religion for you, with the personal insurance of god himself but still results speak louder than the cause.
    I still say, welcome to atheism. I am stubborn bastard :)
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