Over 400 Scientists disput global warming

MichaelMcKevin

Collin wrote:

This won't change my mind. I've always been an advocate of less polution.

Also, forget about global warming for a minute, man has clearly made an impact on earth, we're fucking up our fresh water and our air, we're chopping down woods etc.

Right. Trends in Industry/Human Activity vs. CO2 levels speak for themselves. Even if a small handfull of the world's scientists want to refute the idea that increased human activity is causing the rapid rate of atmospheric CO2 increase, it's more than just that. Habitat destruction, pollution, and overexploitation are detrimental in so many other ways.

fanch75

Everyone's mind is made on this issue, and hardly any minds will be changed regardless of what evidence (no matter how strong) is shown, proving one side or the other. It's all about "rooting for your team" at this point.

SoonForgotten2

mammasan wrote:

The title of your thread is misleading.

The title of every thread he posts is misleading. I don't know if he's a troll or truly does not undersatnd what he reads.

mammasan

fanch75 wrote:

Everyone's mind is made on this issue, and hardly any minds will be changed regardless of what evidence (no matter how strong) is shown, proving one side or the other. It's all about "rooting for your team" at this point.

Which is exactly why we need to forget about the cause of the climate shift. Everyone can agree that there is a change in our climate, so why waste time bickering back and forth about the cause. Just leave that behind and start moving forward and work on solutions to how we will deal with the changes.

onelongsong

callen wrote:

wrong...take a car that has an OBD II computer...oh lets say all 1997 and later models....they have O2 sensor in front and behind catalytic converter...take that converter out and you'll kill your gas mileage and power. Yea if you have a 1976 Chevy you may be right...but after 97 or so...and you'll kill performance. Modern catalytic converters are very efficient...very little if any restriction on exhaust.

when we remove the CC; we also make other modifications. i've never seen a race car with a cc.
however; i'll agree that other modifications need to be made or you'd be right.

onelongsong

mammasan wrote:

I believe that it is a natural cycle of the earth, but that mankind has had a significant impact on this cycle in someway. I believe that we have either excellerated the process or intensified it. Either way we need to start focusing on how we can adapt to any changes that will occur because of it. It is not our generation that will suffer but those after us and the least we can do is to start figuring out way on how we, and future generations, will deal with the changes.

we have to agree to disagree. ice core samples clearly show this started with the industrial revolution. when europe heated with coal; the skies were black and everything covered in soot. there are many writings describing this. and again, ice core samples confirm this. but the biggest change came with industrialization.
we can all agree on the cycle of nature. man is the only animmal that breaks that cycle. man is the only animal in history that pollutes. every other animal lives within the cycle of nature. no other animal burns wood or coal for heat. no other animal burns coal for electricity. yet we'll burn coal even though we know it spews mercury; among other pollutants; into our atmosphere.
so; since we are the only animals that break the cycle of nature; we are the only ones to blame for the disasters we create.

Katzenjammer

keeponrockin wrote:

Even IF Global Warming isn't true (which i SERIOUSLY doubt) what harm could come with being less polluting?

You have just won, triumphed over, and pwnt the thread.

Someone give this man (gal?) a blowjob, he (she) has earned it.

Katzenjammer

onelongsong wrote:

it's easy to prove the cause; but the cause doesn't matter anymore because it cannot be reversed. we are passed the point of no return and those not prepared will die. i predict 2/3 of the earths population. this includes the tens of thousands that have already died as a result of global warming.

Holy shit, 2/3rds? That's like, 4 billion people. You must mean business, and I THANK YOU for opening my eyes. You really know what you're talking about. That, or you are a panicky, alarmist douchebag, but I doubt it.

I'm gonna go jack off in my church's basement now. Onelongsong has predicted the end. God help us.

810wmb

mammasan wrote:

The title of your thread is misleading. These scientist disput the idea of man made global warming. They believe that there is a climate shift occuring but that it is a natural cycle not a result of man's activity.

that's what i believe too

on the title, shit,

"they don't think it's MANMADE global warming"

boy, i was thinking "i'm mislead these guys"

chill

810wmb

SoonForgotten2 wrote:

The title of every thread he posts is misleading. I don't know if he's a troll or truly does not undersatnd what he reads.

i "undersatnd" you can't spell

signed

trollboy

Katzenjammer

810wmb wrote:

that's what i believe too

on the title, shit,

"they don't think it's MANMADE global warming"

boy, i was thinking "i'm mislead these guys"

chill

Learn to type with your fingers instead of your chubby cock or get off the internet.

See that button below your right ring finger? PERIOD.

810wmb

Katzenjammer wrote:

Learn to type with your fingers instead of your chubby cock or get off the internet.

See that button below your right ring finger? PERIOD.

touchy little bitch, aren't you?

have a good day

onelongsong

Katzenjammer wrote:

Holy shit, 2/3rds? That's like, 4 billion people. You must mean business, and I THANK YOU for opening my eyes. You really know what you're talking about. That, or you are a panicky, alarmist douchebag, but I doubt it.

I'm gonna go jack off in my church's basement now. Onelongsong has predicted the end. God help us.

every action has a reaction. we've not prepared for what's to come. i think most people will starve. and i don't think most people realize the scope of the problem. countries that think the us will come to their rescue like in the past will find that help isn't coming. the us will have too many problems of it's own. washington is going to flood when florida is flooding; and california is flooding; and every other coast. since most refineries are near the coast; where will the petrol come from? when people are evacuating; will fuel trucks be delivering fuel? will store owners stay open for the evacuees or will they evacuate themselves? if the areas that grow our food become flooded; will there be any food to distribute?

i could go on but you're obviously only interested in smart arse comments.

Jeanie

onelongsong wrote:

i could go on but you're obviously only interested in smart arse comments.

And masturbation. At it all over the board all night. :eek: I'm surprised pecker hasn't fallen off.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

Jeanie wrote:

And masturbation. At it all over the board all night. :eek: I'm surprised pecker hasn't fallen off.

I think it has...

MichaelMcKevin

onelongsong wrote:

every action has a reaction. we've not prepared for what's to come. i think most people will starve. and i don't think most people realize the scope of the problem. countries that think the us will come to their rescue like in the past will find that help isn't coming. the us will have too many problems of it's own. washington is going to flood when florida is flooding; and california is flooding; and every other coast. since most refineries are near the coast; where will the petrol come from? when people are evacuating; will fuel trucks be delivering fuel? will store owners stay open for the evacuees or will they evacuate themselves? if the areas that grow our food become flooded; will there be any food to distribute?

i could go on but you're obviously only interested in smart arse comments.

At the current rate, the average temperature around the world will be 8 degrees Celsius (~46 F) higher by 2100, making many places on earth unsustainable for life. That will occur before anyone starves.

Jeanie

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

I think it has...

I dunno.....fella's got stamina! I think we'd be unwise to underestimate.

Cosmo

GivenToCarve wrote:

At the current rate, the average temperature around the world will be 8 degrees Celsius (~46 F) higher by 2100, making many places on earth unsustainable for life. That will occur before anyone starves.

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That is my belief. It isn't going to change over night. The tide isn't going to consume the coastal regions all at one time. The change will be gradual... and guess what? Species will evolve to tolerate the change.
It is not going to become OLS's survivalist dream world. As the coastal regions begin to get claimed by rising waters... people will move to higher gounds instead of continually living in their home until the water reaches the rafters.

onelongsong

GivenToCarve wrote:

At the current rate, the average temperature around the world will be 8 degrees Celsius (~46 F) higher by 2100, making many places on earth unsustainable for life. That will occur before anyone starves.

i beg to differ. that same study predicted a certain amount of ice to be melted by 2050. that ice melted earlier this year.
the problem is that scientists make predictions based on their own field and constants. however; nature isn't constant. when you warm water; it may take 15 minutes to raise the temperature 1 degree; however; it may only take 10 minutes to raise it another degree. in the last 4 times the earth delt with global warming; the ice melted within a decade. a recent expedition to a melted area showed ferns and other tropical plants in core samples taken from the ocean floor.
our biggest fear should be a rise of 7*F because at that temperature; the frozen methane pockets around the world will melt. and; at that temperature; native plants will be dead and decaying causing more methane.
HOWEVER; after that the oceans will no longer circulate and we will delve into an ice age. when our ice caps return we will stabilize but for those who survive; the earth will be a totally different place.

onelongsong

Cosmo wrote:

...
That is my belief. It isn't going to change over night. The tide isn't going to consume the coastal regions all at one time. The change will be gradual... and guess what? Species will evolve to tolerate the change.
It is not going to become OLS's survivalist dream world. As the coastal regions begin to get claimed by rising waters... people will move to higher gounds instead of continually living in their home until the water reaches the rafters.

how much will those people get for their houses and their equity when they evacuate to higher ground? they'll still have to pay their mortgages. since the ice melted thus far has been sitting in water; it hasn't caused a rise in levels. the rise thus far has been from melting glaciers. the meltwater from now on is from land. it's melting faster and every drop will add to sea level rise. if a massive piece of glacier from greenland should slide into the ocean, we could see a rise of a meter overnight. maybe more.
when people leave their worthless houses and their jobs; how will they buy or rent on higher ground? they have no job; no house; but still have a mortgage. would you rent to them?

like i said; you have to take everything into account. neither the scientists nor the people living in coastal reagons have thought about that.