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should charlie manson get parole?

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    JuberooJuberoo Posts: 472
    MLC2006 wrote:
    how did he "misunderstand"?? is he not the judge of how he perceives something? so by your logic, there is no such thing as understanding or misunderstanding. because "understanding" would be "right" and "misunderstanding" would be "wrong", which are things that cannot exist, correct? maybe by the way YOU perceive things, he's misunderstanding. but I think he's understanding it just fine.

    LOL! That was great!
    Makes much more sense, to live in the present tense.

    A truly liberal person is conservative when necessary.

    Pro-life by choice.
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    JuberooJuberoo Posts: 472
    Jeanie wrote:
    Considering that Juberoo is not a "he" that's one small misunderstanding I can clear up right now.

    Interesting though, that if we are misunderstanding that then there may be other things we are misunderstanding as well. :)

    Thank you...definitely not a "he"....and not a "god" either as was mentioned in another post. Just a person who recognizes the reality of right and wrong.
    Makes much more sense, to live in the present tense.

    A truly liberal person is conservative when necessary.

    Pro-life by choice.
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    JuberooJuberoo Posts: 472
    Jeanie wrote:
    Ok. I see your point. But if he had been killed 35+ years ago what's not to say that he didn't become even more powerful than he is now in his death?
    What's not to say that he wouldn't have achieved some cult icon type status by now and be even more of a martyr? And even more dangerous as one?

    Because maybe if he had been held more accountable for his actions rather than getting a slap on the wrist and notoriety for continuing his bizarre behaviors in prision...others might not have followed his example, others might not still hold him in such high regard etc. Yes there will always be people who follow the negatives. Some out of ignorance, some out of greed, some out of plain folly....but those few would certainly have another angle to consider if Manson had been given the death sentence for his actions.

    Like Hitler, there are still those who follow his ideology. But on a larger scale are those who are disgusted by it. Had he not been stopped and held accountable for his actions, think of how many MORE people would have continued to uphold his principles.

    Some things in life simply need erratication. They are far too dangerous to society as a whole to ignore.

    Furthermore, the concept of "humane" treatment or "validation" of heinous criminals as humans, is absurd. When they chose to violate the basic rights of others, they forfeit any rights regarding themselves. Our society is twisted in continuing to cater to these people. If we didn't, there would certainly be less antisocial, criminal behavior. It is too easy to get away with things. Life for criminals should be hard. Not full of education options, work out rooms, game nights, socialization, family time, multiple appeals, etc. They should be suffering for the ills that they chose to cast upon society.
    Makes much more sense, to live in the present tense.

    A truly liberal person is conservative when necessary.

    Pro-life by choice.
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    JuberooJuberoo Posts: 472
    an eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind.
    absolutely not. It leaves the decent people as the majority. It leaves people who choose to behave against the most basic good with no recourse.
    Makes much more sense, to live in the present tense.

    A truly liberal person is conservative when necessary.

    Pro-life by choice.
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    JuberooJuberoo Posts: 472
    everyone should get parole. who the fuck are we to put anyone in a cage for life? goddamn zookeepers? no. a terrible race.

    and so when a baby raper moves in next door to you will you go shake his hand an ask him to babysit for you? When a thief applys at your company for a job will you give him the keys to the safe? Becaus eby your reasoning, he shouldn't be held accountable for his choices and behaviors.
    Makes much more sense, to live in the present tense.

    A truly liberal person is conservative when necessary.

    Pro-life by choice.
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    g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,126
    NO!....check that HELL NO!

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    Earle
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    Juberoo wrote:
    and so when a baby raper moves in next door to you will you go shake his hand an ask him to babysit for you? When a thief applys at your company for a job will you give him the keys to the safe? Becaus eby your reasoning, he shouldn't be held accountable for his choices and behaviors.
    I don't let neighbors babysit my kid. That's just silly.
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