he's only 15.
and it isn't that he would want to go.
it's the fact that he supports the war but would be UNWILLING to go. "writing checks that others pay".
maybe if we weren't in the middle of this sort of war right now, he would feel differently, i don't know.
he's only 15.
and it isn't that he would want to go.
it's the fact that he supports the war but would be UNWILLING to go. "writing checks that others pay".
maybe if we weren't in the middle of this sort of war right now, he would feel differently, i don't know.
He's 15.
It's cool that the two of you can even have these discussions.
standin above the crowd
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
In no way did my post imply that things are black and white.
"The logic we're faced with in this thread can apply to any war, whatever the circumstances of that war."
each war and it's purposes/causes are different you can't compare wwii w/ something like iraq or panama or nicaragua
standin above the crowd
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
standin above the crowd
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
I haven't read any of this except for the first few posts, I'm just going to jump right in...
War sucks, but sometimes you have to fight. I'm not saying I support every war but when someone is starting shit you can't always use diplomacy to get yourself out of a bad situation. If the other person has the intent kill you there's not many options left for you.
I don't think you have fight in a war to support it. If everyone who supported the war enlisted and left their jobs, what would happen to the economy. I'm not going to pretend to be an economical expert or anything but it just doesn't seem like a good thing. Some people need to stick around and support their country by doing there job and making sure day-to-day life in their country doesn't suffer too much because of the war. Some people aren't made to be soldiers and if they can serve their country in some other way, good for them.
certain people have certain skills which they are good at. Those in the military, for the most part, are much better equipped, as a person, to fight a war than those not in the military. It's not like people are being drafted into service unwillingly. hey do have a choice, although those military recruiters sound very persuasive(one just called me last week).
I for one would only go to war if it was in defense of my country. And really I wouldn't want to go out there with guns, I'd much rather do it hand to hand combat, so you at least have a say in your life, as opposed to guns. But that sentence deviates pretty far from the topic.
I haven't read any of this except for the first few posts, I'm just going to jump right in...
War sucks, but sometimes you have to fight. I'm not saying I support every war but when someone is starting shit you can't always use diplomacy to get yourself out of a bad situation. If the other person has the intent kill you there's not many options left for you.
I don't think you have fight in a war to support it. If everyone who supported the war enlisted and left their jobs, what would happen to the economy. I'm not going to pretend to be an economical expert or anything but it just doesn't seem like a good thing. Some people need to stick around and support their country by doing there job and making sure day-to-day life in their country doesn't suffer too much because of the war. Some people aren't made to be soldiers and if they can serve their country in some other way, good for them.
this post sums up what i was trying to say in a less rambling fashion.
I for one would only go to war if it was in defense of my country.
I see this all the time. But I wonder how people feel about treaties and safety in numbers. I think these are huge deterents that help prevent wars. It also means that as a country we have to be prepared to go to war in defense of other countries.
I do wish that all governments placed away higher value ona soldiers life. It seems war is too easy now and not nearly messy enough. In a world where millions can die of malnutrition in Africa due to out inaction as people, governments and countries, I think we're all more than a little desensitized to the value of life. However I don't make much distinction between a soldiers life lost due to a stupid war and a child dying of Malaria or malnutrition in Africa. They are both stupid, preventable deaths that make us all look bad as humans. At least with a war you can say somethin gbetter is trying to be achieved, I still haven't heard an excuse for our inaction in places like Darfur or Africa.
“One good thing about music,
when it hits you, you feel to pain.
So brutalize me with music.”
~ Bob Marley
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he's only 15.
and it isn't that he would want to go.
it's the fact that he supports the war but would be UNWILLING to go. "writing checks that others pay".
maybe if we weren't in the middle of this sort of war right now, he would feel differently, i don't know.
Seriously.
If I could tell my 19-year-old nephew to do the same, when he needed to hear it, I would've.
Johnny's going to Iraq this year instead.
He's 15.
It's cool that the two of you can even have these discussions.
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I thought the world had bypassed her, and was waiting for me to eclipse it.
I thought I could drop out of high school and make my way to being a rock star, or a writer, or an artist.
I thought I owned the world.
Here I am at 42, miffed at the world because it doesn't even recognize me, let alone bow down to me, or listen to a word I say.
15 is a tender age. Treat it tenderly, don't crush its spirit.
But...PLEASE....educate it.
that's a bummer, they still might take you
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
"The logic we're faced with in this thread can apply to any war, whatever the circumstances of that war."
each war and it's purposes/causes are different you can't compare wwii w/ something like iraq or panama or nicaragua
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
I think they recently bumped the age up.
And the weight.
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In other words, my Sponger was being his sweetie little playful self.
He's a cutie!
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yeah, there's still hope for the guy yet
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
Wewt I'm 15 I rule.
War sucks, but sometimes you have to fight. I'm not saying I support every war but when someone is starting shit you can't always use diplomacy to get yourself out of a bad situation. If the other person has the intent kill you there's not many options left for you.
I don't think you have fight in a war to support it. If everyone who supported the war enlisted and left their jobs, what would happen to the economy. I'm not going to pretend to be an economical expert or anything but it just doesn't seem like a good thing. Some people need to stick around and support their country by doing there job and making sure day-to-day life in their country doesn't suffer too much because of the war. Some people aren't made to be soldiers and if they can serve their country in some other way, good for them.
certain people have certain skills which they are good at. Those in the military, for the most part, are much better equipped, as a person, to fight a war than those not in the military. It's not like people are being drafted into service unwillingly. hey do have a choice, although those military recruiters sound very persuasive(one just called me last week).
I for one would only go to war if it was in defense of my country. And really I wouldn't want to go out there with guns, I'd much rather do it hand to hand combat, so you at least have a say in your life, as opposed to guns. But that sentence deviates pretty far from the topic.
this post sums up what i was trying to say in a less rambling fashion.
I do wish that all governments placed away higher value ona soldiers life. It seems war is too easy now and not nearly messy enough. In a world where millions can die of malnutrition in Africa due to out inaction as people, governments and countries, I think we're all more than a little desensitized to the value of life. However I don't make much distinction between a soldiers life lost due to a stupid war and a child dying of Malaria or malnutrition in Africa. They are both stupid, preventable deaths that make us all look bad as humans. At least with a war you can say somethin gbetter is trying to be achieved, I still haven't heard an excuse for our inaction in places like Darfur or Africa.
when it hits you, you feel to pain.
So brutalize me with music.”
~ Bob Marley