If you believe that war is the answer,
yellowbird
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are you willing to fight?
I had a debate with my 15 year old son today on this subject. He believes that in many cases war/attack is the only solution. I suggested that since he has this view than he must be willing to fight along side his fellow countrymen. He disagreed. You can believe that war is the answer and yet not be involved in it, so he says, unless it is self defense, of course.
I say if you truely believe in something you better be able to personally, physically and mentally be able to back it up.
Am I wrong..or what?
I had a debate with my 15 year old son today on this subject. He believes that in many cases war/attack is the only solution. I suggested that since he has this view than he must be willing to fight along side his fellow countrymen. He disagreed. You can believe that war is the answer and yet not be involved in it, so he says, unless it is self defense, of course.
I say if you truely believe in something you better be able to personally, physically and mentally be able to back it up.
Am I wrong..or what?
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Are you pregnant again?
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Yes, my argument is about as tired as the orignal posters is.
YAWN right back at you.
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Dumb how? In either scenario, you support killing. So, without there being a double standard, you'd better be willing to do the killing yourself......
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Killing is killing.
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I support a woman's right to do what's best for her health.
I don't support a coward's right to be cowardly.
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Now pay up.
Well, now the topic is hypocrisy and double standards.
Should an 80 year old man with no family who supports war as a last resort pick up a gun and join up too?
How about an invalid? What about people who support it and are rejected by the military? Are they cowards too?
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I think he was responding to this line in the original post.
This is a dumb argument. What about stem cell research? By his reasoning you can only support it if you have the mental ability to do stem cell research and the equipment(physically able).
As far as war it is still a stupid argument.
What about disabled people or people too old to serve in war, are they not allowed to support it?
Nor do I support the right of somebody acting the idiot.
Unless it's on the comedy channel.
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Hey!!! An intelligent person in this thread!!!
And yes, that was the line I was responding to.
And to que, some people would consider killing an innocent baby in the womb, after YOU made the decision to have irresponsible sex a cowardly thing to do. Just an FYI, not every abortion is made to save the mothers life. Not every abortion is done with HER health in mind.
But this isnt an abortion thread. But its a "put your money where your mouth is" thread.
That standard should apply to all actions, not just the ones you want to pick and choose.
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Well, I'm not a woman, FYI.
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I'm not sure that if someone says he believes that war is justified, but wants someone else to do the battle for him, is necessarily a coward. I think he is disilluioned. Brainwashed into thinking that this is how a real man should act. But when it really comes down to it, he doesn't want any part of it. So maybe the belief is really not there and maybe he is too immature to admit it. I hope that is how it is with my son anyway.
I didnt think you were.
I'm not a soldier, FYI.
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Personally, I tried to join the marines when I was 20. I was passed by. Im no coward, nor am I disillusioned in my beliefs. It wasnt about what a "real man" would do. It was about what THIS man would do. Im no coward, simply didnt qualify. But unlike many here, I realise I can only speak for myself. I don't proclaim to have the right nor ability to assume I can speak for others.
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my...this turned into a crappy thread. thanks.
you guys can continue.
i'll go elsewhere.
nah, it was a crappy thread right from the start.
Take care!
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the blow away in the wind
oops...sorry i said i was leaving!
my bad
But everyone has a time in their life when they wish they had some paper plates.
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The difference is that sometimes war is justifyable and sometimes it isn't. You can support one war and oppose another. Generally, when you "support" abortion, you are merely supporting the right to choose, you aren't necessarily supporting the actual act of aborting fetuses. By your logic, you are telling me that the nations that used force to oppose Hitler's Germany also "support" killing fetuses. Go to your local Veterans hall and tell them that. Then, after you pick your broken ass up off of the street, you might get why I thought your post was dumb.
AH. Sarcasm. I retract my "dumbest post" statement. What sad times are these when posts like that are not immediately chalked up to sarcasm. Sorry man (or ma'am).
So noone who supports abortion actually supports the act itself? But everyone who acknowledges that war is sometimes justified, is a warmonger? Is that the gist of it? Sorry, im trying to understand YOUR logic.
Sorry, but I think your post is as equally dumb as you think mine.
Man. And no worries, you aren't the first, nor the last im sure, to call my posts dumb. Its what I'm here for.
Also, its my belief, that just as you said, you can support one war, and not others, you can also support the goal of a war, while at the same time disagree with how its being run. Some people like to live their lives in black and white, but ignore all the shades of grey. Its a common human error.
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The Army would have taken you.
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Are you a recruiter?
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Perhaps the Chickenhawk brigade?
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Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
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