Jim Crow alive and well in Saudi Arabia

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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    You have to admit there was a lot of cases there. ;) With the technology we have available to us now it just seems like a no brainer.
    I dont know booky. with some much money to be made I cant see why someone would be holding it back. especially in a free capitalistic environment.
  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    jlew24asu wrote:
    I dont know booky. with some much money to be made I cant see why someone would be holding it back. especially in a free capitalistic environment.

    Because the oil companies are making money right now and would like to continue. Lying to and covering shit up to make money is not that crazy of a concept to believe.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    Because the oil companies are making money right now and would like to continue. Lying to and covering shit up to make money is not that crazy of a concept to believe.
    fuck the oil companies. they cant prevent a free market from innovating new products.
  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    jlew24asu wrote:
    fuck the oil companies. they cant prevent a free market from innovating new products.


    I'm saying what I believe is happening. You're free to believe whatever you wish.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    I'm saying what I believe is happening. You're free to believe whatever you wish.
    yea I know. i'm just saying, that I dont see how oil companies can stop innovation of new products.
  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    jlew24asu wrote:
    yea I know. i'm just saying, that I dont see how oil companies can stop innovation of new products.

    $$$$$$$$
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • El_Kabong
    El_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    jlew24asu wrote:
    fuck the oil companies. they cant prevent a free market from innovating new products.


    look at how far in our system oil execs are...our president, vp, sec of state (former national security advisor), i think reagan made an oil exec head of the dept that handles patents...

    where is a free market actually existed other than theories? every single country that had this 'free-market capitalism' forced on them just plunged deeper into debt

    they certainly CAN prevent this from happening.

    look at that case in, was it illinois? where the guy made his own gas and the govt came in and said he had to stop unless he obtained a permit he didn't even qualify for?
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • El_Kabong
    El_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    $$$$$$$$

    exactly...they invest heavily in politicians campaigns, they get put into federal agencies, they get put into cabinet positions, elected into office...not to mention their lobby groups...the whole reason we give Columbia over a billion in aid even tho technically their humanr rights violations make it illegal, is b/c their m,ilitary protects us oil companies in the region
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    Oh my god, yes. Innovation isn't innovation at all, it's throwing research dollars to CEO's in the automotive and oil industries for decades on end..for what? SUV's?

    gimme a fucking break.
    that didn't happen by accident.

    They're going to blame the market and tell you, well, that's what the consumer wanted.

    what a bunch of fucking shit.
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  • PJ_Saluki
    PJ_Saluki Posts: 1,006
    mammasan wrote:
    I don't think it's ready here in the states simply because we haven't but the effort into making the change. If Brazil can do it we sure as hell can and should have done it first.

    It's the internal combustion engine that's keeping all this back, right? Don't many of these alternative fuel or hybrid or electric vehicles lack the power that the ICE provides? I'm not a car guy so I don't really pay attention to it. I think they use electricity in large trains but those motors are still fired by diesel. Where's John Galt when you need him?
    "Almost all those politicians took money from Enron, and there they are holding hearings. That's like O.J. Simpson getting in the Rae Carruth jury pool." -- Charles Barkley
  • El_Kabong
    El_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    PJ_Saluki wrote:
    It's the internal combustion engine that's keeping all this back, right? Don't many of these alternative fuel or hybrid or electric vehicles lack the power that the ICE provides? I'm not a car guy so I don't really pay attention to it. I think they use electricity in large trains but those motors are still fired by diesel. Where's John Galt when you need him?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internal-Combustion_Engine#Engine_Efficiency

    Engine Efficiency
    The efficiency of various types of internal combustion engines vary. Most gasoline fueled internal combustion engines, even when aided with turbochargers and stock efficiency aids, have a mechanical efficiency of about 20% [2][3]. The efficiency may be as high as 37% at the optimum operating point in engines where this is a high priority such as that of the Prius. Most internal combustion engines waste about 36% of the energy in gasoline as heat lost to the cooling system and another 38% through the exhaust. The rest, about 6%, is lost to friction.
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way

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