Apparently people in the South still believe that it is 1930 and blatant racism is acceptable.
In Jena, Louisiana there is a large tree in front of the town high school. Apparently the white students used to congregate under the tree during breaks. One day a black student decided to sit down under this tree. The next day three nooses were hung from the tree. The superintendent wrote it off as a prank and suspended the responsible students for three days. The blacks were upset by this and racial tension began to increase. A few months pass and several scuffles take place. One night a group of black students get into a fight with a white student, causing the white student to be hospitalized and released later that day. Following the fight, the black students were arrested and charged with attempted murder and face 20-100 yrs in jail.
This is obviously just a summary so go to jenasix.org to get the full story.
The fact that this story is receiving very little national coverage is despicable.
If we charge the white kids with a hate crime would it be even? I m so sick of the it'sthe whites mans fault. In my diveristy calss my teacher keeps on say it.
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The racial angle wasnt brought up until AFTER they were convicted.
Please explain how this tree had nothing to do with this continuing into what this episode has become. Please
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Don't they think that other people may have also been outraged by them?
i'm sure other people are outraged by the nooses. i am. Everyone should be. i don't think when the media says things like that,they intend to imply that others aren't angered by the nooses, just to point out how the Black community is reacting. Yes, everyone should be outraged, and many, i'm sure, are. Its completely fair to say, however, given their history in this nation, that Blacks will undoubtedly have a much deeper, personal, and emotional reaction to nooses hanging from a tree in reaction to Black student simply sitting there. Its also fair to say that, whereas whites, for example, can and should be angered by them, its impossible for them to have the SAME kind of emotional reaction.
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Before I go any further, let me state this: The prosecutor should've never charged these boys with attempted murder. The entire school board should be replaced for stopping the noose-hanging kids from being expelled.
OK, having said that, much of the mainstream reporting on this story has been misleading, irresponsible and inflammatory.
No one mentions that Mychal Bell's clueless public defender was black. No one mentions that there were no black jurors because of the 50 people who responded to the more than 100 summons, none were black. No one mentions that Bell was already on probation for battery relating to a Christmas day incident in 2005. No one mentions that Bell was adjudicated (convicted) of two other violent crimes in 2006 and one charge of criminal damage to property. No one mentions that Bell's father acknowledged he moved back to Louisiana in February (after seven years in Dallas) to supervise his son because of the "Jena Six" mess. No one mentions that Bell starred on the Jena High football team while constantly jeopardizing/violating his seemingly flimsy probation.
This was all talked about in open court during a bond hearing for Bell, and a newspaper in Alexandria, La., wrote about it. Just about everybody else has pretty much ignored the "other side" of the story. Including the fact that not one witness — black or white, and there were 40 statements taken — connected the jumping/beatdown of the white student (Dec. 4) to the noose incident (Sept. 1).
No one mentions that a black U.S. Attorney, Donald Washington, investigated the "Jena Six" case and held a town-hall meeting explaining that there was no evidence connecting the jumping/beatdown to the noose incident.
Only after the prosecutor overreacted (or tired of letting Bell and others skate once the successful football season was over; Bell wasn't the only football star charged) did the "Jena Six" blame the attack on the nooses and the white shade tree.
Rather than report the truth, flames have been fanned by lazy or cowardly or agenda-driven members of the media. Because the white kid regained consciousness and survived the attack with only a swollen eye, defenders of the "Jena Six" have called it a typical "schoolyard fight." Would anyone call it that if six white football and basketball players jumped one black kid?
I've mulled this topic for months, and I keep coming back to one question: Where in the hell were the parents — all of the parents, white and black?
Shame on the parents of the kids who hung the nooses for hiding behind a seemingly racist and insensitive school board when their kids were inexcusably wrong. Shame on the parents of the "Jena Six" for blaming white racism for the cowardice of a six-on-one attack.
There was a rally for this along with a bus trip to the Jena area in my town this week. So alot of talk and news coverage.
I agree with the comment that racism goes both ways. There is no doubt about that.
As for this situation, beating someone up is not the same as a visual attack. Once the black boys made it physical, they crossed the line. They definitely do deserve to be punished. Just as the white boys who used visual and verbal means to intimidate their fellow black students should be punished.
I do not think that "attempted murder" or a 22 year sentence is appropriate for the crime committed by the black students though.
It is unfortunate that in this day and age the court system in the south is still so retro minded that it cannot act in a fair and reasonable manner.
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Originally Posted by Me Quoting the Jason Whitlock article earlier in this thread
i saw this posted on another site...
by a well respected black writer (the same one who spoke out about the whole imus thing)
Before I go any further, let me state this: The prosecutor should've never charged these boys with attempted murder. The entire school board should be replaced for stopping the noose-hanging kids from being expelled.
OK, having said that, much of the mainstream reporting on this story has been misleading, irresponsible and inflammatory.
No one mentions that Mychal Bell's clueless public defender was black. No one mentions that there were no black jurors because of the 50 people who responded to the more than 100 summons, none were black. No one mentions that Bell was already on probation for battery relating to a Christmas day incident in 2005. No one mentions that Bell was adjudicated (convicted) of two other violent crimes in 2006 and one charge of criminal damage to property. No one mentions that Bell's father acknowledged he moved back to Louisiana in February (after seven years in Dallas) to supervise his son because of the "Jena Six" mess. No one mentions that Bell starred on the Jena High football team while constantly jeopardizing/violating his seemingly flimsy probation.
This was all talked about in open court during a bond hearing for Bell, and a newspaper in Alexandria, La., wrote about it. Just about everybody else has pretty much ignored the "other side" of the story. Including the fact that not one witness — black or white, and there were 40 statements taken — connected the jumping/beatdown of the white student (Dec. 4) to the noose incident (Sept. 1).
No one mentions that a black U.S. Attorney, Donald Washington, investigated the "Jena Six" case and held a town-hall meeting explaining that there was no evidence connecting the jumping/beatdown to the noose incident.
Only after the prosecutor overreacted (or tired of letting Bell and others skate once the successful football season was over; Bell wasn't the only football star charged) did the "Jena Six" blame the attack on the nooses and the white shade tree.
Rather than report the truth, flames have been fanned by lazy or cowardly or agenda-driven members of the media. Because the white kid regained consciousness and survived the attack with only a swollen eye, defenders of the "Jena Six" have called it a typical "schoolyard fight." Would anyone call it that if six white football and basketball players jumped one black kid?
I've mulled this topic for months, and I keep coming back to one question: Where in the hell were the parents — all of the parents, white and black?
Shame on the parents of the kids who hung the nooses for hiding behind a seemingly racist and insensitive school board when their kids were inexcusably wrong. Shame on the parents of the "Jena Six" for blaming white racism for the cowardice of a six-on-one attack.
Yeah I read this before and I still doesn't tell me that the nooses had nothing to do with what precipitated the events that led to the 6 on 1 beating.
I'm just going referring to the tree and where it led to in this crime/fight. Let's take a look at the atmosphere of this HS before anyone sat or hung anything. You have a High School 85% white-black students and just about the same for the town of Jena. There has to be some tension going on before in that one of the J Six had to "ask permission" to sit under this tree on a hot day. This tree was known for where white students like to hang out and a black student asked to if he could sit under that tree. Bailey i believe was his name one of the six.
The principal had no problem with him or his friends sitting under the tree and the youths sit there for the day. The very next day the 3 nooses are hung, so why and what does this symbol means to the black youths who sat under the tree the day before?
It's basically saying how dare you sit under our tree, you're not supposed to sit here. it's a symbol of fear by intimidation based on America's past on lynchings of black people. One of the Jena Six didn't quite know what the nooses meant but all the others did, he understood clearly later on. A protest ensued by the black students which led to the DA saying to all the students “See this pen in my hand? I can end your lives with the stroke of a pen.” In saying that I believe he was referring that statement to the black students there that again dared to protest the in school expulsion of the white students that hung the nooses.
As far as I know no nooses were hung at the school before this incident. So my point here is if those nooses weren't hung on that tree, there would be no animosity/anger built up towards either race. There would be no protest to the school board decision on the expulsion of the white students which led to the comments by DA R. Walters. Which further incited the black students.
I can understand this kind of atmosphere while living in South Carolina with about the same racial make up 75-25 white. I saw what some white students would do to the black students and there reaction to them. I can understand how those black students were angry about the symbolism of the the nooses and what it meant.
If those nooses weren't hung we wouldn't be talking about this particular situation now. I matters none to me if the writer above was black, green or purple. His writings does not authenticate the matter of the symbolism of the nooses nor do I. However, I've seen and spoken to those who have participate in these racial pranks if you want to call it that which in turn led to this whole incident escalating.
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perhaps not, but if his facts are accurate (again, who knows whats accurate at this point)..
None of the witnesses to the fight connected the incidents.
The Nooses (neese?) were not brought up until AFTER the convictions.
A black US attorney said there was no connection at a town hall.
Those things, especially the 1st and 2nd point, give an indication that the nooses hanging from the tree did not play a role.
the kid that was beat up was never implicated in anyway to be connected with hanging the nooses.
the initial reports i read on this made no mention that the primary name out there- Bell- has a pretty long rap sheet for violent offenses.
The reports made a big deal about the all white jury... But if no black people showed up for their jury duty date (legitimate reasons or not) then what choice did the justice system have?
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perhaps not, but if his facts are accurate (again, who knows whats accurate at this point)..
None of the witnesses to the fight connected the incidents.
The Nooses (neese?) were not brought up until AFTER the convictions.
A black US attorney said there was no connection at a town hall.
Those things, especially the 1st and 2nd point, give an indication that the nooses hanging from the tree did not play a role.
the kid that was beat up was never implicated in anyway to be connected with hanging the nooses.
the initial reports i read on this made no mention that the primary name out there- Bell- has a pretty long rap sheet for violent offenses.
The reports made a big deal about the all white jury... But if no black people showed up for their jury duty date (legitimate reasons or not) then what choice did the justice system have?
I'm not talking about jury selection or convictions or the whether the victim was connected to the hanging of the nooses.
I'm talking about, if those nooses were not hung would the victim in this case or any other white youth been attacked by the Jena Six anyway?
If the hanging of the nooses did not occur would the events still have escalated to the beating?
I'm basically speaking to the hanging of the nooses created as much anger from the black students as the whites who felt how dare those black youths sit under our tree. There was anger on both sides however the hanging of the nooses further created this anger and animosity between the two.
Eliminate the hanging of the nooses and the anger/animosity is gone. In the environment of predominately white school those black youths I believe are not going attack a white student any white for no reason, it didn't happen before in this school.
This is what I'm referring to the initial act. Still no excuse for the beating.
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i'm sure other people are outraged by the nooses. i am. Everyone should be. i don't think when the media says things like that,they intend to imply that others aren't angered by the nooses, just to point out how the Black community is reacting. Yes, everyone should be outraged, and many, i'm sure, are. Its completely fair to say, however, given their history in this nation, that Blacks will undoubtedly have a much deeper, personal, and emotional reaction to nooses hanging from a tree in reaction to Black student simply sitting there. Its also fair to say that, whereas whites, for example, can and should be angered by them, its impossible for them to have the SAME kind of emotional reaction.
Well I think that the choice of words (or omission) by the media really hurts the situation. They should just say PEOPLE are outraged.
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I'm not talking about jury selection or convictions or the whether the victim was connected to the hanging of the nooses.
I'm talking about, if those nooses were not hung would the victim in this case or any other white youth been attacked by the Jena Six anyway?
If the hanging of the nooses did not occur would the events still have escalated to the beating?
I'm basically speaking to the hanging of the nooses created as much anger from the black students as the whites who felt how dare those black youths sit under our tree. There was anger on both sides however the hanging of the nooses further created this anger and animosity between the two.
Eliminate the hanging of the nooses and the anger/animosity is gone. In the environment of predominately white school those black youths I believe are not going attack a white student any white for no reason, it didn't happen before in this school.
This is what I'm referring to the initial act. Still no excuse for the beating.
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There is absolutely no way of ever knowing...
All I can say is... If they believed the Nooses were at all any part of what happened, i think they would have brought it up from the get go.
just my opinion.
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All I can say is... If they believed the Nooses were at all any part of what happened, i think they would have brought it up from the get go.
just my opinion.
......and we all have our opinions.
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ok i think the white kids should have deffinatly had more then a suspention and it was beyond ignorant what they did. but seriously attempted murder calls for jail time, and if the african american race in this country doesnt realize this, then their is something wrong. i honestly don't think it should have gone this far . . . especially with the rallys.
ok i think the white kids should have deffinatly had more then a suspention and it was beyond ignorant what they did. but seriously attempted murder calls for jail time, and if the african american race in this country doesnt realize this, then their is something wrong. i honestly don't think it should have gone this far . . . especially with the rallys.
I don't think it originally was protested because they were arrested. I think originally, the people of Jena protested because it was an attempted murder charge. That then boiled over into wanting them completely free and cleared of wrong doing.
I don't think it originally was protested because they were arrested. I think originally, the people of Jena protested because it was an attempted murder charge. That then boiled over into wanting them completely free and cleared of wrong doing.
yep. and thats the scary part. I think a lot of the people protesting dont know any of the facts in the case, they just think its 6 black kids in jail for a crime they didnt commit... they committed a crime- they may have just been railroaded too an extreme.
I don't think it originally was protested because they were arrested. I think originally, the people of Jena protested because it was an attempted murder charge. That then boiled over into wanting them completely free and cleared of wrong doing.
Right there is the underlaying problem. Whenever a crime hits the national media like this, the black community backed by its leaders wants complete absolution. That makes their real points go unheard.
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the kid with the heaviest charges already has like 6 other previous charges for assault and battery before this ever happened....so let him go until he finally really kills someone. it's guaranteed! then everyone can blame the judicial system for letting him go and it won't be a racial issue anymore.
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the kid with the heaviest charges already has like 6 other previous charges for assault and battery before this ever happened....so let him go until he finally really kills someone. it's guaranteed! then everyone can blame the judicial system for letting him go and it won't be a racial issue anymore.
Oh really are you now a prophet? I'm not saying he and the others are not guilty of a crime it's just that in this case the DA R. Walters had an agenda. It appears he was going to show them a lesson by charging them as an adult rather than charging them in juvenile court.
Charge them as adults so that they could be given the maximum jail sentence. Again I'm not advocating they should be set free here, just an injustice in the way these charges were set forth in charging them as adults.
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Oh really are you now a prophet? I'm not saying he and the others are not guilty of a crime it's just that in this case the DA R. Walters had an agenda. It appears he was going to show them a lesson by charging them as an adult rather than charging them in juvenile court.
Charge them as adults so that they could be given the maximum jail sentence. Again I'm not advocating they should be set free here, just an injustice in the way these charges were set forth in charging them as adults.
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i agree the charges are very stiff but yes they do need to be taught a severe lesson before the end result is them killing someone.
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i just don't understand racism AT ALL. tis all just mind boggling to me.
same here...if i was black and seen the nooses hanging from the tree i would have went and did some chin ups with them and then took 'em down and wore it as a belt the rest of the day. i would have frustrated the hell out of those honkies without saying a word or causing any physical damage.
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same here...if i was black and seen the nooses hanging from the tree i would have went and did some chin ups with them and then took 'em down and wore it as a belt the rest of the day. i would have frustrated the hell out of those honkies without saying a word or causing any physical damage.
if you were black...? i don't know. tis easy to say such a thing. personally i would have been furious. just as a person i'm horrified.
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if you were black...? i don't know. tis easy to say such a thing. personally i would have been furious. just as a person i'm horrified.
well thats the goal of a racist to provoke and antagonize,. when they fail at it by getting no reaction then you usually win and things die down after awhile. i was always harassed by blacks growing up and i would laugh and joke about it never getting angry. they called me everything and i would piss them off and say ohh thank you i love being called cracker, honkie or whatever they called me and it always worked. of course if i was physically touched i'd react accordingly but rarely did that happen. this is 2007 blacks need to learn how to let the past go and move on and not be bothered by stupidity. with no reactions then there'd be no goal for the racist to attain. words and trinkets that symbolize something from a past era can do no physical harm. nigger is just a stupid slang word and a noose is just a piece of rope.
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well thats the goal of a racist to provoke and antagonize,. when they fail at it by getting no reaction then you usually win and things die down after awhile. i was always harassed by blacks growing up and i would laugh and joke about it never getting angry. they called me everything and i would piss them off and say ohh thank you i love being called cracker, honkie or whatever they called me and it always worked. of course if i was physically touched i'd react accordingly but rarely did that happen. this is 2007 blacks need to learn how to let the past go and move on and not be bothered by stupidity. with no reactions then there'd be no goal for the racist to attain. words and trinkets that symbolize something from a past era can do no physical harm. nigger is just a stupid slang word and a noose is just a piece of rope.
.....and a swastika is nothing to a jew. you can't ignore intent. people need to learn not to be so ignorant.
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its a hate crime
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Here's the thing im reading more and more...
The tree had nothing to do with it.
The racial angle wasnt brought up until AFTER they were convicted.
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Please explain how this tree had nothing to do with this continuing into what this episode has become. Please
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i'm sure other people are outraged by the nooses. i am. Everyone should be. i don't think when the media says things like that,they intend to imply that others aren't angered by the nooses, just to point out how the Black community is reacting. Yes, everyone should be outraged, and many, i'm sure, are. Its completely fair to say, however, given their history in this nation, that Blacks will undoubtedly have a much deeper, personal, and emotional reaction to nooses hanging from a tree in reaction to Black student simply sitting there. Its also fair to say that, whereas whites, for example, can and should be angered by them, its impossible for them to have the SAME kind of emotional reaction.
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I agree with the comment that racism goes both ways. There is no doubt about that.
As for this situation, beating someone up is not the same as a visual attack. Once the black boys made it physical, they crossed the line. They definitely do deserve to be punished. Just as the white boys who used visual and verbal means to intimidate their fellow black students should be punished.
I do not think that "attempted murder" or a 22 year sentence is appropriate for the crime committed by the black students though.
It is unfortunate that in this day and age the court system in the south is still so retro minded that it cannot act in a fair and reasonable manner.
Yeah I read this before and I still doesn't tell me that the nooses had nothing to do with what precipitated the events that led to the 6 on 1 beating.
I'm just going referring to the tree and where it led to in this crime/fight. Let's take a look at the atmosphere of this HS before anyone sat or hung anything. You have a High School 85% white-black students and just about the same for the town of Jena. There has to be some tension going on before in that one of the J Six had to "ask permission" to sit under this tree on a hot day. This tree was known for where white students like to hang out and a black student asked to if he could sit under that tree. Bailey i believe was his name one of the six.
The principal had no problem with him or his friends sitting under the tree and the youths sit there for the day. The very next day the 3 nooses are hung, so why and what does this symbol means to the black youths who sat under the tree the day before?
It's basically saying how dare you sit under our tree, you're not supposed to sit here. it's a symbol of fear by intimidation based on America's past on lynchings of black people. One of the Jena Six didn't quite know what the nooses meant but all the others did, he understood clearly later on. A protest ensued by the black students which led to the DA saying to all the students “See this pen in my hand? I can end your lives with the stroke of a pen.” In saying that I believe he was referring that statement to the black students there that again dared to protest the in school expulsion of the white students that hung the nooses.
As far as I know no nooses were hung at the school before this incident. So my point here is if those nooses weren't hung on that tree, there would be no animosity/anger built up towards either race. There would be no protest to the school board decision on the expulsion of the white students which led to the comments by DA R. Walters. Which further incited the black students.
I can understand this kind of atmosphere while living in South Carolina with about the same racial make up 75-25 white. I saw what some white students would do to the black students and there reaction to them. I can understand how those black students were angry about the symbolism of the the nooses and what it meant.
If those nooses weren't hung we wouldn't be talking about this particular situation now. I matters none to me if the writer above was black, green or purple. His writings does not authenticate the matter of the symbolism of the nooses nor do I. However, I've seen and spoken to those who have participate in these racial pranks if you want to call it that which in turn led to this whole incident escalating.
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None of the witnesses to the fight connected the incidents.
The Nooses (neese?) were not brought up until AFTER the convictions.
A black US attorney said there was no connection at a town hall.
Those things, especially the 1st and 2nd point, give an indication that the nooses hanging from the tree did not play a role.
the kid that was beat up was never implicated in anyway to be connected with hanging the nooses.
the initial reports i read on this made no mention that the primary name out there- Bell- has a pretty long rap sheet for violent offenses.
The reports made a big deal about the all white jury... But if no black people showed up for their jury duty date (legitimate reasons or not) then what choice did the justice system have?
I'm not talking about jury selection or convictions or the whether the victim was connected to the hanging of the nooses.
I'm talking about, if those nooses were not hung would the victim in this case or any other white youth been attacked by the Jena Six anyway?
If the hanging of the nooses did not occur would the events still have escalated to the beating?
I'm basically speaking to the hanging of the nooses created as much anger from the black students as the whites who felt how dare those black youths sit under our tree. There was anger on both sides however the hanging of the nooses further created this anger and animosity between the two.
Eliminate the hanging of the nooses and the anger/animosity is gone. In the environment of predominately white school those black youths I believe are not going attack a white student any white for no reason, it didn't happen before in this school.
This is what I'm referring to the initial act. Still no excuse for the beating.
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Uh?
I'm speechless.
If I opened it now would you not understand?
Well I think that the choice of words (or omission) by the media really hurts the situation. They should just say PEOPLE are outraged.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
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Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
There is absolutely no way of ever knowing...
All I can say is... If they believed the Nooses were at all any part of what happened, i think they would have brought it up from the get go.
just my opinion.
......and we all have our opinions.
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
I don't think it originally was protested because they were arrested. I think originally, the people of Jena protested because it was an attempted murder charge. That then boiled over into wanting them completely free and cleared of wrong doing.
yep. and thats the scary part. I think a lot of the people protesting dont know any of the facts in the case, they just think its 6 black kids in jail for a crime they didnt commit... they committed a crime- they may have just been railroaded too an extreme.
Right there is the underlaying problem. Whenever a crime hits the national media like this, the black community backed by its leaders wants complete absolution. That makes their real points go unheard.
Can you see me now
I am myself
Like you somehow
I'll ride the wave
Where it takes me
I'll hold the pain
Release me
Oh really are you now a prophet? I'm not saying he and the others are not guilty of a crime it's just that in this case the DA R. Walters had an agenda. It appears he was going to show them a lesson by charging them as an adult rather than charging them in juvenile court.
Charge them as adults so that they could be given the maximum jail sentence. Again I'm not advocating they should be set free here, just an injustice in the way these charges were set forth in charging them as adults.
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
Can you see me now
I am myself
Like you somehow
I'll ride the wave
Where it takes me
I'll hold the pain
Release me
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
Can you see me now
I am myself
Like you somehow
I'll ride the wave
Where it takes me
I'll hold the pain
Release me
if you were black...? i don't know. tis easy to say such a thing. personally i would have been furious. just as a person i'm horrified.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
Can you see me now
I am myself
Like you somehow
I'll ride the wave
Where it takes me
I'll hold the pain
Release me
.....and a swastika is nothing to a jew. you can't ignore intent. people need to learn not to be so ignorant.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say