USA - decides everything!

bootlegger10

jlew24asu wrote:

what the hell are you talking about

Come on dude, you know what he meant. Not that I disagree with your thoughts on America haters. They DO hate America. They get excited when America loses face in the world. I'm not going to say what else makes them happy (hint: has to do with Americans and coffins).

jlew24asu

bootlegger10 wrote:

America kicked ass in WWII. We can do whatever the hell we want!

this reminds me of another classic byzine line that America had little effect on the outcome of WWII

Byrnzie

jlew24asu wrote:

this reminds me of another classic byzine line that America had little effect on the outcome of WWII

I never said anything of the sort. And My name's not Byzine. Two mistakes in one sentence. Well done!

http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=219138

Viggo

I like your music, movies, Alaska, Hawaii, but there is some things that I dislike as well:

1. Which Nation spent millions of dollars to send two men to the moon, then sent 10 more people, before they realised it was just a barren rock?

2. In which country do chainsaw manufactures find it necessary to put disclaimers like "do not attempt to stop the saw whilst it is activated with your hands." AND, get taken to court by a man who tried to stop a chainsaw with his hand because it didn't say not to in the manual (which, for those American's amongst you, it did). What makes this story really ironic was that when the brand of chainsaw manufacturers first release there chainsaws in America, it was noticed that it was significantly larger than the original, because of things like the aforementioned warnings, in fact there was even an story on it on American TV news. They thought it was very funny that the manufactures thought that they were so stupid they needed these warnings. Strangely, there was little in the news about the court case that followed.

3. How about the American that phoned up his computer manufacturer to say that his cup-holder had broken? "Cup-holder? What cup holder??" "Well, you push a button on the front and it comes out. And when I put a cup of coffee in it, it broke." Once again, for the yanks; It was actually his CD drive. Duh.

4. Who has to write "London, England" along the bottom of all their films when they show a shot of Big Ben, or "Paris, France" when shown a picture of the Eiffel Tower?

5. Which country makes you fill in a questionnaire asking questions like "were you in or around the area of Nazi Germany between 1939 and 1945?" Or "are you entering the United States with the intent of committing criminal or terrorist activities?" Before granting a Visa?

6. In what country would a person invent a new sport, then think to himself "I know, I'll give this sport the same name as another sport, even though it is far less appropriate for this sport than the other sport, which already has the name."

7. On the subject of sport, the "World series" which only Americans are allowed to enter.

8. Who thought "I know, lets invent a weapon that is so powerful, there is no way to defend against it, that's powerful enough to destroy whole cities in one go." Oh, and "that will make the area unfit for habitation for years after it has been used, and, in fact will end up giving people in this country cancer, and other unpleasant diseases."???? Eh?

9. "Duck and cover."

10. When shop assistants, or maybe people working at Mac Donald's come and ask "may I help you sir?" or whatever, only in America do you really get the feeling that the person really would like to help you. Rather than anything else they could be doing, they would prefer to be right there, helping you.

11. All Dollar notes are the same, except for the number, meaning that it's impossible for blind people to tell them apart. Also, what is a "Dime" worth? It doesn't say on the coin. Are you somehow just supposed to know? Is it obvious? It isn't to me...

Commy

bootlegger10 wrote:

America kicked ass in WWII. We can do whatever the hell we want!

Unfortunately they've taken that a little too literallly.

Viggo

I'm gonna drop this discussion. I guess it can't lead to anything smart anyway.

I just got caught up in the moment(s).

Like Eminem says: "I'm just playin' American, you know I love you".. Not necessarily love, but like

RolandTD20Kdrummer

Byrnzie wrote:

I never said anything of the sort. And My name's not Byzine. Two mistakes in one sentence. Well done!

http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=219138

Pretty thorough schooling and level of information provided in that post . It is a bit disgusting to see Americans thump their chest over WW2 isn't it.

trappedinmyradio

Viggo wrote:

You know what is so god damn sad? We can't vote for the president in USA. The president of your country will eventually decide how my future will be. I never voted Bush, but our soldiers are now in Afghanistan.

Thats messed up...

Attack the USA and overthrow the government here and all of your problems are solved...got it?

jlew24asu

Byrnzie wrote:

I never said anything of the sort. And My name's not Byzine. Two mistakes in one sentence. Well done!

http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=219138

you said it 10 posts into your thread.

Originally Posted by jlew24asu
I dontunderstand your point. are you trying to marginalize US's involvment and help in defeating Hitler?

Byrnzie wrote:

Yes.

bootlegger10

Viggo wrote:

I like your music, movies, Alaska, Hawaii, but there is some things that I dislike as well:

I liked your post. Did you pull it from a website?

2. In which country do chainsaw manufactures find it necessary to put disclaimers like "do not attempt to stop the saw whilst it is activated with your hands."

6. In what country would a person invent a new sport, then think to himself "I know, I'll give this sport the same name as another sport, even though it is far less appropriate for this sport than the other sport, which already has the name."

7. On the subject of sport, the "World series" which only Americans are allowed to enter.

11. All Dollar notes are the same, except for the number, meaning that it's impossible for blind people to tell them apart. Also, what is a "Dime" worth? It doesn't say on the coin. Are you somehow just supposed to know? Is it obvious? It isn't to me...

2. I've done a similar thing with a garbage disposal. Ouch!

6. We just took your "football" and improved it to be a whole helluva lot more exciting. Soccer sucks.

7. The Toronto Blue Jays are Canadian. You better check yourself before you wreck yourself. The best players in the WORLD come to play in Major League Baseball, so it pretty much is a world sport anyways.

11. America has no blind people. It is a fact. Look it up. I knew what a dime was when I was two years old. Does that make me some genius, or is just something Europeans can't remember?


By the way, my great-grandparents came over from Sweden. You are my Scandinavian brother.

Brez

I keep chuckling at all of Viggo's generalizations (I know it's late to bring this up, but I just got here).

A country of 4 million? Ok maybe you can make some broad generalization that would be semi-true.

But 300 million? You have obviously never visited more than one place here or you would realize that there are gigantic differences from region to region. I don't think a person from a small country can really imagine/understand that.

Byrnzie

jlew24asu wrote:

you said it 10 posts into your thread.

Originally Posted by jlew24asu
I dontunderstand your point. are you trying to marginalize US's involvment and help in defeating Hitler?

Originally Posted by Byrnzie

Byrnzie wrote:

Yes.

Nice bit of editing there.
Here's the post in it's entirety...

jlew24asu wrote:

I dontunderstand your point. are you trying to marginalize US's involvment and help in defeating Hitler?

Yes. I'm putting it into perspective.

Total U.S losses during world war 2 = approx 400,000.

Total British losses during world war 2 = approx 300,000.

Total Russian losses during world war 2 = approx 30 - 40,000,000.

bootlegger10

Byrnzie wrote:

Originally Posted by Byrnzie


Nice bit of editing there.
Here's the post in it's entirety...



Yes. I'm putting it into perspective.

Total U.S losses during world war 2 = approx 400,000.

Total British losses during world war 2 = approx 300,000.

Total Russian losses during world war 2 = approx 30 - 40,000,000.

You don't win wars with losses, so I don't know what your point proves, other than Russia got its ass kicked. I didn't realize the winner of a war was who got killed the most.

I'd like to see the stats on battle victories and turning points.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

bootlegger10 wrote:

You don't win wars with losses, so I don't know what your point proves, other than Russia got its ass kicked. I didn't realize the winner of a war was who got killed the most.

I'd like to see the stats on battle victories and turning points.

my god you're a tad dense...

Solat13

Byrnzie wrote:

Originally Posted by Byrnzie


Nice bit of editing there.
Here's the post in it's entirety...



Yes. I'm putting it into perspective.

Total U.S losses during world war 2 = approx 400,000.

Total British losses during world war 2 = approx 300,000.

Total Russian losses during world war 2 = approx 30 - 40,000,000.

Just curious, are you counting civilian deaths in the Soviet Union's count? Or is that all military deaths. Every site I've seen has Soviet military casualties between 10-15 million. Not trying to diminish that number, but that is a lot less than 30-40 million.

bootlegger10

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

my god you're a tad dense...

Right, I am dense for believing that the US played a huge role in ending WWII. I know what his point was dufus, but it still doesn't prove anything. It is more fun on here to make outrageous comments than spend my life with a gun barrel down my throat like some of you whose only joy in life is supporting a candidate for president who cannot win even though he sets records for campaign donations.

But back to my point, instead of showing me who had the most troops in the war, tell me who won the war (that would mean who won the most battles). If I'm wrong there, than I'm wrong. But telling me 30 million Russians died so they played a huge winning role in the war doesn't get you to win the argument that the US didn't play the biggest role in ending the war.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

bootlegger10 wrote:

Right, I am dense for believing that the US played a huge role in ending WWII. I know what his point was dufus, but it still doesn't prove anything. It is more fun on here to make outrageous comments than spend my life with a gun barrel down my throat like some of you whose only joy in life is supporting a candidate for president who cannot win even though he sets records for campaign donations.

Reminds me of a scenario where someone works their whole life to pay off a mortgage then a stranger walks in and writes a them cheque for final $5 split up along with a few other people and exclaims.."see look at the house Ijust bought for you...aren't you lucky!!"

good lord...

Solat13

bootlegger10 wrote:

Right, I am dense for believing that the US played a huge role in ending WWII. I know what his point was dufus, but it still doesn't prove anything. It is more fun on here to make outrageous comments than spend my life with a gun barrel down my throat like some of you whose only joy in life is supporting a candidate for president who cannot win even though he sets records for campaign donations.

But back to my point, instead of showing me who had the most troops in the war, tell me who won the war (that would mean who won the most battles). If I'm wrong there, than I'm wrong. But telling me 30 million Russians died so they played a huge winning role in the war doesn't get you to win the argument that the US didn't play the biggest role in ending the war.

I just have a hard time calling the Soviet Union the heroes of World War II when they signed a neutrality agreement with Japan in 1941 and were totally not involved at all in the Pacific campaign - that is until Japan was right about to surrender after Hiroshima and then the Soviets break their neutrality agreement with Japan and capture 4 islands. Till this day, Russia and Japan have never signed a peace treaty so I guess World War 2 is still going on.

Byrnzie

bootlegger10 wrote:

You don't win wars with losses, so I don't know what your point proves, other than Russia got its ass kicked. I didn't realize the winner of a war was who got killed the most.

I'd like to see the stats on battle victories and turning points.

9 out of every ten German soldiers killed in World War 2 were killed on Russian soil. Russia destroyed 3/4 of the German army on the Eastern front before capturing Berlin and liberating Auschwitz.
So they got their asses kicked did they?

Byrnzie

bootlegger10 wrote:

Right, I am dense for believing that the US played a huge role in ending WWII. I know what his point was dufus, but it still doesn't prove anything. It is more fun on here to make outrageous comments than spend my life with a gun barrel down my throat like some of you whose only joy in life is supporting a candidate for president who cannot win even though he sets records for campaign donations.

But back to my point, instead of showing me who had the most troops in the war, tell me who won the war (that would mean who won the most battles). If I'm wrong there, than I'm wrong. But telling me 30 million Russians died so they played a huge winning role in the war doesn't get you to win the argument that the US didn't play the biggest role in ending the war.

You can begin by looking at 4 key events - The battle of Moscow, The battle of Stalingrad, the battle of Kursk, and the battle of Berlin. Each of these battles eclipsed D-day ten-fold. And in each of these battles more soldiers and civilians were killed than the U.S lost in the entire war.