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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Alas...ignorance abounds.

    Fascist's unite!

    whenever u feel the need to add something to the conversation please jump in at any time. otherwise...well you know
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Maybe it had something to do with the fact that they were busy destroying 3/4's of the German army on the Eastern front?

    Russia certainly had a big part in defeating hitler, but without American involvement germany would have won. just admit that, and you can gain some credibility
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    jlew24asu wrote:
    whenever u feel the need to add something to the conversation please jump in at any time. otherwise...well you know


    Yeah I see all your non existent links and factless opines.

    The sad part is you're a fascist during a neo-con regime.

    Congratulations. How is Satan in bed btw?
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  • Rock Fossil
    Rock Fossil Posts: 47
    jlew24asu wrote:
    Russia certainly had a big part in defeating hitler, but without American involvement germany would have won. just admit that, and you can gain some credibility

    Maybe it could be said without Russia Germany would have won, or without Britain or the other allies. The point is that the allies combined to beat a common enemy, and it just doesn't make sense for one country or another to try to make out it was just because of their involvement.

    To use a US analogy it would be like giving all the glory to the quarterback and totally ignoring the contribution of the rest of the team.
    Now I'm livin' out here on the beach,
    but those seagulls are still out of reach.
  • Viggo
    Viggo Posts: 274
    Maybe we should close this thread, but in the other hand.. it's healthy to discuss this, although it is even easier to walk out of track.
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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Rock Fossil wrote:
    Maybe it could be said without Russia Germany would have won, or without Britain or the other allies. The point is that the allies combined to beat a common enemy, and it just doesn't make sense for one country or another to try to make out it was just because of their involvement.

    To use a US analogy it would be like giving all the glory to the quarterback and totally ignoring the contribution of the rest of the team.

    I agree. I'm not marginalizing any countries involvement like byzine is.
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Yeah I see all your non existent links and factless opines.

    The sad part is you're a fascist during a neo-con regime.

    Congratulations. How is Satan in bed btw?


    I dont need links to give an educated opinion.
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    jlew24asu wrote:
    wars arent won by numbers of soldiers lost. your blind hatred for america seems to get in the way of the reality of the war

    Wars aren't won by numbers of soldiers lost? Really? How are they won then?
    And what does the fact that Nazi Germany was defeated on the Eastern front have to do with me supposedly hating America? :confused:
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Wars aren't won by numbers of soldiers lost? Really? How are they won then?
    when one side surrenders. are you trying to say wars are won or lost based upon # dead? wouldnt that mean that Russia lost?
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    jlew24asu wrote:
    I dont need links to give an educated opinion.


    If you want your opinion to have any merit it's rather helpful. Especially with such nonsensical ideas as the ones your coming up with.

    Imagine all those millions of people's lives overseas being so useless and inconsequential. If it weren't for the US....we'd all be speaking German.

    Reducing all those millions of lives in the name of self, while pointing fingers at others citing the same.

    That's some serious level of hypocrisy.

    I'll think I'd probably go with the sheer numbers involved, and not reduce the value of human lives to fit some Hollywood fabricated fantasy world. That would seem to be a common sense approach.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    If you want your opinion to have any merit it's rather helpful. Especially with such nonsensical ideas as the ones your coming up with.
    such as?
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Imagine all those millions of people's lives overseas being so useless and inconsequential. If it weren't for the US....we'd all be speaking German.

    Reducing all those millions of lives in the name of self, while pointing fingers at others citing the same.

    That's some serious level of hypocrisy.

    I'll think I'd probably go with the sheer numbers involved, and not reduce the value of human lives to fit some Hollywood fabricated fantasy world. That would seem to be a common sense approach.

    where the fuck are you coming up with all of this?
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    jlew24asu wrote:
    such as?



    where the fuck are you coming up with all of this?


    I beginning to think it's pointless debating reality with you...you're broken...and your memory sucks :p
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    I beginning to think it's pointless debating reality with you...you're broken...and your memory sucks :p

    seriously what is this about? what are you trying to debate with me? are we talking about WWII? what?
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    jlew24asu wrote:
    seriously what is this about? what are you trying to debate with me? are we talking about WWII? what?

    You do seem to have short term memory issues.

    Light up and have another cigarette. hehe
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Jlew I like to see you do more than 30 pushups without fainting.

    Actually that would impress me far more than anything you've come up with so far.

    edit: ROFL!! :D:D
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,255
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Jlew I like to see you do more than 30 pushups without fainting.

    Actually that would impress me far more than anything you've come up with so far.

    edit: ROFL!! :D:D

    I don't know that I could do 30 pushups straight. I am very weak. I'd be lucky to do 10.
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,255
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Jlew I like to see you do more than 30 pushups without fainting.

    Actually that would impress me far more than anything you've come up with so far.

    edit: ROFL!! :D:D

    You like to laugh at your own jokes. Lame.
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    bootlegger10 wrote:
    You like to laugh at your own jokes. Lame.

    It's an inside joke in respose to jlews cute little passive agressive comment he sent to me in a PM about me dying.

    Jlew.. You should be more careful about making back handed remarks regarding my death. They could be misconstrued as remarks of a threatening nature.

    Not a very good idea at all.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • Anon
    Anon Posts: 11,175
    private messages are exactly that. private. if anyone has a problem with something that is said to them then they should take it up with one of the admin here. not drag it out onto the forum.

    i really like both rolands and j lews 'normal' posts, but i hate reading all this crap. be nice to each other. you can still debate without the attacks. kiss and make up. please. i don't want either of you to be banned, already some of the regular posters have disappeared and it will be a loss to everyone if you are both not here. it will.

    jeez.
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    jlew24asu wrote:
    Russia certainly had a big part in defeating hitler, but without American involvement germany would have won. just admit that, and you can gain some credibility

    I won't admit it because it's not true. The facts still stand regardless of your deluded chest-thumping.

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