A Rational Approach to Immigration

CorporateWhore

mammasan wrote:

Wait a minute you are questioning my honesty when your primary source was a publication started by a white supremacist. I am providing links to unbaised sources not an organization whose goal is to purify this country.

Here is a stroy I found I'm still looking for nutral sources, something you seem to be lacking.

http://www.hispaniconline.com/magazine/2006/march/features/colleges.html

He may be a white separtist but his statistics are factual nonetheless.

yield2me

CorporateWhore wrote:

He may be a white separtist but his statistics are factual nonetheless.

hmmm something is just wrong with that statement...

TheVoiceInside

CorporateWhore wrote:

He may be a white separtist but his statistics are factual nonetheless.

jajajajaja if I were you Id be taking spanish lessons just so you dont fall behind the rest of the country. In fifty years the majority will be speaking spanish or at least spanglish. you cant stop it is part of Americas evolution.

Collin

CorporateWhore wrote:

He may be a white separtist but his statistics are factual nonetheless.

Maybe the statistics he used to present his skewed and racist report were indeed factual, but he carefully selected and presented those incomplete stats in a way that puts hispanics in a bad light so he could back up his racist and white supremacist views with 'facts'.

CorporateWhore

TheVoiceInside wrote:

jajajajaja if I were you Id be taking spanish lessons just so you dont fall behind the rest of the country. In fifty years the majority will be speaking spanish or at least spanglish. you cant stop it is part of Americas evolution.

Haha

How's puerto rican doing becoming a state?

fanch75

TheVoiceInside wrote:

jajajajaja if I were you Id be taking spanish lessons just so you dont fall behind the rest of the country. In fifty years the majority will be speaking spanish or at least spanglish. you cant stop it is part of Americas evolution.

This may be true. White Americans are turning into Europeans in the sense that they want to travel, party, etc instead of having families. The Hispanic community is very family-oriented and do have children.

caifan82

I totally support this thread and all posts from CorporateWhore and onelongsong.

Everyone knows Mexican people are inferior. Hell, in my 25 years in this country I've already mugged 3 american tourists, killed 2 members of an opposing gang, experimented with every drug in existence and raped three 60 year old women.
Also, we are all so uneducated that we can't even go to the store and buy food without getting into an argument with the clerk about how many 10 peso coins do i have to give him in order to buy 20 pesos of tortillas.
It's also dangerous to get close to us. We have many diseases; many of them people thought didn't exist anymore... If you come down here you might catch the plague or grow a 10inch-2 headed worm in your stomach from drinking our water.
And yes! We will take California back! It's the government's secret plan, we will slowly keep sending more and more gardeners and farm workers until they can beat the shit out of your army and we can claim California again! Oh glorious day!

Thank god people like CorporateWhore already know this. Save yourselves while you can!

yield2me

CorporateWhore wrote:

Haha

How's puerto rican doing becoming a state?

thats your response? I feel bad for you

mammasan

CorporateWhore wrote:

He may be a white separtist but his statistics are factual nonetheless.

So far I have proved that half of his facts where either incomplete or wrong. I guess there is no talking to you about this because your misguided view of hispanics as a whole is so ingrained. I actually feel sorry for you because it must be a sad existance living with this dillusional fear and paranoya of people simply because they don't look, act, and/or think like you.

Are hispanics a perfect people? No of course not, with the exception of Cubans becaue we are perfect. No race or ethnicity is perfect. Hispanics have a lot of work to do in order to better themselves in this country, but look at it this way carribean, central, and South Americans have only begun immigrating to this country with in the past few decades. Cubans where among the first back in the 60's. Central and South Americans started coming over enmass only with in the past 20 or so years. It takes time for a minority to pull itself up to the status quo of the majority, specially when they are coming from poor countries with a lack of education. Tell me though how long did it take the Mass of Irish immigrants or Italian immigrants to start making some ground in this country. It didn't happen over night. This is the same process but instead of understanding that it is a process that may take several generations you would rather paint sweeping generalizations and portray an ethnicity as nothing but disease riddled uneducated criminals.

Your dislike, and it is dislike no matter which way you try to rationalize it, of hispanics is disturbing and I for one no longer have anytime to try to defend my people to someone so ignorant. But I guees I will get the last laugh because we are here to stay and our population is growing and a much faster rate than anglos. So maybe one day in my life time I can return the favor and look down my nose at you because you are a minosity and don't think, act, or look as I do, but then again I was raised better than that by my uneducated disease ridden drug peddling parents. With that I bid you a good day.

onelongsong

caifan82 wrote:

I totally support this thread and all posts from CorporateWhore and onelongsong.

Everyone knows Mexican people are inferior. Hell, in my 25 years in this country I've already mugged 3 american tourists, killed 2 members of an opposing gang, experimented with every drug in existence and raped three 60 year old women.
Also, we are all so uneducated that we can't even go to the store and buy food without getting into an argument with the clerk about how many 10 peso coins do i have to give him in order to buy 20 pesos of tortillas.
It's also dangerous to get close to us. We have many diseases; many of them people thought didn't exist anymore... If you come down here you might catch the plague or grow a 10inch-2 headed worm in your stomach from drinking our water.
And yes! We will take California back! It's the government's secret plan, we will slowly keep sending more and more gardeners and farm workers until they can beat the shit out of your army and we can claim California again! Oh glorious day!

Thank god people like CorporateWhore already know this. Save yourselves while you can!

evidently you don't read or comprehend well. i have nothing against mexican people. i have an adopted daughter that's mexican. i'm holding my tounge because i don't want to get banned but i'd like some guttless wonder to say that to my face. my comments were directed to all illegal immigrants. tell me when and where you want to meet and discuss this. i'm an hour and a half from the california border.

farfromglorified

CorporateWhore wrote:

He may be a white separtist but his statistics are factual nonetheless.

Now that's a bumper sticker for you.

CorporateWhore

mammasan wrote:

Your dislike, and it is dislike no matter which way you try to rationalize it, of hispanics is disturbing and I for one no longer have anytime to try to defend my people to someone so ignorant. But I guees I will get the last laugh because we are here to stay and our population is growing and a much faster rate than anglos. So maybe one day in my life time I can return the favor and look down my nose at you because you are a minosity and don't think, act, or look as I do. With that I bid you a good day.

You really couldn't look down at me at all in that scenario, because "my people" still built this country and made it what it is.

EDIT: You have identified the problem by speaking your views: you see yourself as hispanic first, not American. "Your people" are not Americans: they are hispanics. You believe that "your people" are growing at a faster rate than anglos.

You know who "my people" are? Americans. I believe in Citizenism. Any citizen that is American is "my people." If you don't believe that, why are you even in this country in the first place? Why do you have to divide this country with terms like "my people." Why separate us with Latinos vs. Anglos? I merely pointed out that hispanics are not doing well in this country: the reason I did so was to determine whether or not citizens like me should vote to keep immigration as it is.

Mammasan's comments are just another indicator of the problem of lack of assimilation going on in America. When people refuse to identify with Americans, they identify with something else. This has never happened before. 2nd and 3rd generation Irish-Americans do not identify with Ireland at all. But, 2nd and 3rd generation hispanic-Americans certainly identify with their nations of origin. It's proven in mammasan's comments "my people."

I put Americans first. It's a shame that we all can't put this nation first and some of us need to identify with their ethnic group.

mammasan

CorporateWhore wrote:

You really couldn't look down at me at all in that scenario, because "my people" still built this country and made it what it is.

I look down on you now and honestly don't give a care in the world who your ancestor where or what they did for this country.

caifan82

onelongsong wrote:

evidently you don't read or comprehend well. i have nothing against mexican people. i have an adopted daughter that's mexican. i'm holding my tounge because i don't want to get banned but i'd like some guttless wonder to say that to my face. my comments were directed to all illegal immigrants. tell me when and where you want to meet and discuss this. i'm an hour and a half from the california border.

Oh sorry, guess I got you confused with the "what other diseases are these people bringing in" comment... You can get as offended as you want and paint it whatever way you like, but that was a totally derogatory comment. Congratulations on your daughter! I wouldn't recommend meeting me to discuss this, leprosy is highly contagious.

yield2me

CorporateWhore wrote:

You really couldn't look down at me at all in that scenario, because "my people" still built this country and made it what it is.

Just so everybody knows, this is not the view of most sane white Americans.

CorporateWhore

farfromglorified wrote:

Now that's a bumper sticker for you.

Well, sure, I think the guy's a racist. Nonetheless, his facts are unquestionable.

CorporateWhore

mammasan wrote:

I look down on you now and honestly don't give a care in the world who your ancestor where or what they did for this country.

mammasan wrote:

Your dislike, and it is dislike no matter which way you try to rationalize it, of hispanics is disturbing and I for one no longer have anytime to try to defend my people to someone so ignorant. But I guees I will get the last laugh because we are here to stay and our population is growing and a much faster rate than anglos. So maybe one day in my life time I can return the favor and look down my nose at you because you are a minosity and don't think, act, or look as I do. With that I bid you a good day.

You really couldn't look down at me at all in that scenario, because "my people" still built this country and made it what it is.

EDIT: You have identified the problem by speaking your views: you see yourself as hispanic first, not American. "Your people" are not Americans: they are hispanics. You believe that "your people" are growing at a faster rate than anglos.

You know who "my people" are? Americans. I believe in Citizenism. Any citizen that is American is "my people." If you don't believe that, why are you even in this country in the first place? Why do you have to divide this country with terms like "my people." Why separate us with Latinos vs. Anglos? I merely pointed out that hispanics are not doing well in this country: the reason I did so was to determine whether or not citizens like me should vote to keep immigration as it is.

Mammasan's comments are just another indicator of the problem of lack of assimilation going on in America. When people refuse to identify with Americans, they identify with something else. This has never happened before. 2nd and 3rd generation Irish-Americans do not identify with Ireland at all. But, 2nd and 3rd generation hispanic-Americans certainly identify with their nations of origin. It's proven in mammasan's comments "my people."

I put Americans first. It's a shame that we all can't put this nation first and some of us need to identify with their ethnic group.

CorporateWhore

yield2me wrote:

Just so everybody knows, this is not the view of most sane white Americans.

Wait, why is it wrong for me to say "my people" but it's okay for mammasan to say it?

Is he insane too? Am I not the only one?

farfromglorified

CorporateWhore wrote:

Well, sure, I think the guy's a racist. Nonetheless, his facts are unquestionable.

Any fact presented in the context of immigration is questionable, considering the limited amount of data available and the challenges of collecting it. You'd be wise to keep that in mind on this issue.

CorporateWhore

farfromglorified wrote:

You'd be wise to keep that in mind on this issue.

Yes, sir...:(