A Rational Approach to Immigration

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  • mammasan wrote:
    Wait a minute you are questioning my honesty when your primary source was a publication started by a white supremacist. I am providing links to unbaised sources not an organization whose goal is to purify this country.

    Here is a stroy I found I'm still looking for nutral sources, something you seem to be lacking.

    http://www.hispaniconline.com/magazine/2006/march/features/colleges.html

    He may be a white separtist but his statistics are factual nonetheless.
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  • yield2meyield2me Posts: 1,291
    He may be a white separtist but his statistics are factual nonetheless.


    hmmm something is just wrong with that statement...
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  • He may be a white separtist but his statistics are factual nonetheless.



    jajajajaja if I were you Id be taking spanish lessons just so you dont fall behind the rest of the country. In fifty years the majority will be speaking spanish or at least spanglish. you cant stop it is part of Americas evolution.
  • CollinCollin Posts: 4,931
    He may be a white separtist but his statistics are factual nonetheless.

    Maybe the statistics he used to present his skewed and racist report were indeed factual, but he carefully selected and presented those incomplete stats in a way that puts hispanics in a bad light so he could back up his racist and white supremacist views with 'facts'.
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  • jajajajaja if I were you Id be taking spanish lessons just so you dont fall behind the rest of the country. In fifty years the majority will be speaking spanish or at least spanglish. you cant stop it is part of Americas evolution.

    Haha

    How's puerto rican doing becoming a state?
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  • fanch75fanch75 Posts: 3,734
    jajajajaja if I were you Id be taking spanish lessons just so you dont fall behind the rest of the country. In fifty years the majority will be speaking spanish or at least spanglish. you cant stop it is part of Americas evolution.

    This may be true. White Americans are turning into Europeans in the sense that they want to travel, party, etc instead of having families. The Hispanic community is very family-oriented and do have children.
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  • caifan82caifan82 Mexico City Posts: 321
    I totally support this thread and all posts from CorporateWhore and onelongsong.

    Everyone knows Mexican people are inferior. Hell, in my 25 years in this country I've already mugged 3 american tourists, killed 2 members of an opposing gang, experimented with every drug in existence and raped three 60 year old women.
    Also, we are all so uneducated that we can't even go to the store and buy food without getting into an argument with the clerk about how many 10 peso coins do i have to give him in order to buy 20 pesos of tortillas.
    It's also dangerous to get close to us. We have many diseases; many of them people thought didn't exist anymore... If you come down here you might catch the plague or grow a 10inch-2 headed worm in your stomach from drinking our water.
    And yes! We will take California back! It's the government's secret plan, we will slowly keep sending more and more gardeners and farm workers until they can beat the shit out of your army and we can claim California again! Oh glorious day!

    Thank god people like CorporateWhore already know this. Save yourselves while you can!
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  • yield2meyield2me Posts: 1,291
    Haha

    How's puerto rican doing becoming a state?


    thats your response? I feel bad for you
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  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    He may be a white separtist but his statistics are factual nonetheless.

    So far I have proved that half of his facts where either incomplete or wrong. I guess there is no talking to you about this because your misguided view of hispanics as a whole is so ingrained. I actually feel sorry for you because it must be a sad existance living with this dillusional fear and paranoya of people simply because they don't look, act, and/or think like you.

    Are hispanics a perfect people? No of course not, with the exception of Cubans becaue we are perfect. No race or ethnicity is perfect. Hispanics have a lot of work to do in order to better themselves in this country, but look at it this way carribean, central, and South Americans have only begun immigrating to this country with in the past few decades. Cubans where among the first back in the 60's. Central and South Americans started coming over enmass only with in the past 20 or so years. It takes time for a minority to pull itself up to the status quo of the majority, specially when they are coming from poor countries with a lack of education. Tell me though how long did it take the Mass of Irish immigrants or Italian immigrants to start making some ground in this country. It didn't happen over night. This is the same process but instead of understanding that it is a process that may take several generations you would rather paint sweeping generalizations and portray an ethnicity as nothing but disease riddled uneducated criminals.

    Your dislike, and it is dislike no matter which way you try to rationalize it, of hispanics is disturbing and I for one no longer have anytime to try to defend my people to someone so ignorant. But I guees I will get the last laugh because we are here to stay and our population is growing and a much faster rate than anglos. So maybe one day in my life time I can return the favor and look down my nose at you because you are a minosity and don't think, act, or look as I do, but then again I was raised better than that by my uneducated disease ridden drug peddling parents. With that I bid you a good day.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • onelongsongonelongsong Posts: 3,517
    caifan82 wrote:
    I totally support this thread and all posts from CorporateWhore and onelongsong.

    Everyone knows Mexican people are inferior. Hell, in my 25 years in this country I've already mugged 3 american tourists, killed 2 members of an opposing gang, experimented with every drug in existence and raped three 60 year old women.
    Also, we are all so uneducated that we can't even go to the store and buy food without getting into an argument with the clerk about how many 10 peso coins do i have to give him in order to buy 20 pesos of tortillas.
    It's also dangerous to get close to us. We have many diseases; many of them people thought didn't exist anymore... If you come down here you might catch the plague or grow a 10inch-2 headed worm in your stomach from drinking our water.
    And yes! We will take California back! It's the government's secret plan, we will slowly keep sending more and more gardeners and farm workers until they can beat the shit out of your army and we can claim California again! Oh glorious day!

    Thank god people like CorporateWhore already know this. Save yourselves while you can!

    evidently you don't read or comprehend well. i have nothing against mexican people. i have an adopted daughter that's mexican. i'm holding my tounge because i don't want to get banned but i'd like some guttless wonder to say that to my face. my comments were directed to all illegal immigrants. tell me when and where you want to meet and discuss this. i'm an hour and a half from the california border.
  • He may be a white separtist but his statistics are factual nonetheless.

    Now that's a bumper sticker for you.
  • mammasan wrote:
    Your dislike, and it is dislike no matter which way you try to rationalize it, of hispanics is disturbing and I for one no longer have anytime to try to defend my people to someone so ignorant. But I guees I will get the last laugh because we are here to stay and our population is growing and a much faster rate than anglos. So maybe one day in my life time I can return the favor and look down my nose at you because you are a minosity and don't think, act, or look as I do. With that I bid you a good day.

    You really couldn't look down at me at all in that scenario, because "my people" still built this country and made it what it is.

    EDIT: You have identified the problem by speaking your views: you see yourself as hispanic first, not American. "Your people" are not Americans: they are hispanics. You believe that "your people" are growing at a faster rate than anglos.

    You know who "my people" are? Americans. I believe in Citizenism. Any citizen that is American is "my people." If you don't believe that, why are you even in this country in the first place? Why do you have to divide this country with terms like "my people." Why separate us with Latinos vs. Anglos? I merely pointed out that hispanics are not doing well in this country: the reason I did so was to determine whether or not citizens like me should vote to keep immigration as it is.

    Mammasan's comments are just another indicator of the problem of lack of assimilation going on in America. When people refuse to identify with Americans, they identify with something else. This has never happened before. 2nd and 3rd generation Irish-Americans do not identify with Ireland at all. But, 2nd and 3rd generation hispanic-Americans certainly identify with their nations of origin. It's proven in mammasan's comments "my people."

    I put Americans first. It's a shame that we all can't put this nation first and some of us need to identify with their ethnic group.
    All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal.
    -Enoch Powell
  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    You really couldn't look down at me at all in that scenario, because "my people" still built this country and made it what it is.


    I look down on you now and honestly don't give a care in the world who your ancestor where or what they did for this country.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • caifan82caifan82 Mexico City Posts: 321
    evidently you don't read or comprehend well. i have nothing against mexican people. i have an adopted daughter that's mexican. i'm holding my tounge because i don't want to get banned but i'd like some guttless wonder to say that to my face. my comments were directed to all illegal immigrants. tell me when and where you want to meet and discuss this. i'm an hour and a half from the california border.

    Oh sorry, guess I got you confused with the "what other diseases are these people bringing in" comment... You can get as offended as you want and paint it whatever way you like, but that was a totally derogatory comment. Congratulations on your daughter! I wouldn't recommend meeting me to discuss this, leprosy is highly contagious.
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  • yield2meyield2me Posts: 1,291
    You really couldn't look down at me at all in that scenario, because "my people" still built this country and made it what it is.


    Just so everybody knows, this is not the view of most sane white Americans.
    “May you live to be 100 and may the last voice you hear be mine.” - Frank Sinatra
  • Now that's a bumper sticker for you.

    Well, sure, I think the guy's a racist. Nonetheless, his facts are unquestionable.
    All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal.
    -Enoch Powell
  • mammasan wrote:
    I look down on you now and honestly don't give a care in the world who your ancestor where or what they did for this country.
    mammasan wrote:
    Your dislike, and it is dislike no matter which way you try to rationalize it, of hispanics is disturbing and I for one no longer have anytime to try to defend my people to someone so ignorant. But I guees I will get the last laugh because we are here to stay and our population is growing and a much faster rate than anglos. So maybe one day in my life time I can return the favor and look down my nose at you because you are a minosity and don't think, act, or look as I do. With that I bid you a good day.

    You really couldn't look down at me at all in that scenario, because "my people" still built this country and made it what it is.

    EDIT: You have identified the problem by speaking your views: you see yourself as hispanic first, not American. "Your people" are not Americans: they are hispanics. You believe that "your people" are growing at a faster rate than anglos.

    You know who "my people" are? Americans. I believe in Citizenism. Any citizen that is American is "my people." If you don't believe that, why are you even in this country in the first place? Why do you have to divide this country with terms like "my people." Why separate us with Latinos vs. Anglos? I merely pointed out that hispanics are not doing well in this country: the reason I did so was to determine whether or not citizens like me should vote to keep immigration as it is.

    Mammasan's comments are just another indicator of the problem of lack of assimilation going on in America. When people refuse to identify with Americans, they identify with something else. This has never happened before. 2nd and 3rd generation Irish-Americans do not identify with Ireland at all. But, 2nd and 3rd generation hispanic-Americans certainly identify with their nations of origin. It's proven in mammasan's comments "my people."

    I put Americans first. It's a shame that we all can't put this nation first and some of us need to identify with their ethnic group.
    All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal.
    -Enoch Powell
  • yield2me wrote:
    Just so everybody knows, this is not the view of most sane white Americans.
    Wait, why is it wrong for me to say "my people" but it's okay for mammasan to say it?

    Is he insane too? Am I not the only one?
    All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal.
    -Enoch Powell
  • Well, sure, I think the guy's a racist. Nonetheless, his facts are unquestionable.

    Any fact presented in the context of immigration is questionable, considering the limited amount of data available and the challenges of collecting it. You'd be wise to keep that in mind on this issue.
  • You'd be wise to keep that in mind on this issue.

    Yes, sir...:(
    All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal.
    -Enoch Powell
  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    This has never happened before. 2nd and 3rd generation Irish-Americans do not identify with Ireland at all. But, 2nd and 3rd generation hispanic-Americans certainly identify with their nations of origin. It's proven in mammasan's comments "my people."

    I put Americans first. It's a shame that we all can't put this nation first and some of us need to identify with their ethnic group.

    The first part of this is a crock of shit. Irish American identify with their Irish root. Same as Italians. Just because I identify doesn't mean that I don't put this country first. That is your problem. You think that just because I consider myself latino first that I don't care about my country. Your views are distorted and completely based on your own ignorant view of hispanics. If it means that I have to completely turn my back on my roots to be an American than I want nothing to do with being an American. I treasure this country but I also treasure where my family came from and I will not sacrife one just so ignorant facist fools like yourself can accept me into what you perceive to be a true American culture.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    Yes, sir...:(

    Before you tuck yourself in tonight just rememeber that the boogieman is coming wearing his sombrero and eating a burrito.

    Without hispanic this would be a nation of bad dancers and bland food :)
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • onelongsongonelongsong Posts: 3,517
    caifan82 wrote:
    Oh sorry, guess I got you confused with the "what other diseases are these people bringing in" comment... You can get as offended as you want and paint it whatever way you like, but that was a totally derogatory comment. Congratulations on your daughter! I wouldn't recommend meeting me to discuss this, leprosy is highly contagious.

    so illegals don't bring in disease?? why does the government require shots? why can't foodstuffs be brought accross the border legally? i guess legality isn't your field.
  • caifan82caifan82 Mexico City Posts: 321
    so illegals don't bring in disease?? why does the government require shots? why can't foodstuffs be brought accross the border legally? i guess legality isn't your field.

    Because your government is freaking paranoic. I've been to Canada, France and Argentina. I was never asked to get any shots because I might infect someone. Why would illegals bring diseases but not tourists like me? They have the exact same risk of having the flu as you or I do. What diseases do you think we have in Mexico that you don't have? Do American tourists get mandatory shots from the Canadian authorities every time they cross to the North?
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  • fanch75fanch75 Posts: 3,734
    Yo quiero taco bell.
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  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    fanch75 wrote:
    Yo quiero taco bell.

    y tequila.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • caifan82caifan82 Mexico City Posts: 321
    fanch75 wrote:
    Yo quiero taco bell.

    I ate at one of those in Canada... It's the most disgusting thing I've ever tasted :P
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  • caifan82 wrote:
    Because your government is freaking paranoic. I've been to Canada, France and Argentina. I was never asked to get any shots because I might infect someone. Why would illegals bring diseases but not tourists like me? They have the exact same risk of having the flu as you or I do. What diseases do you think we have in Mexico that you don't have? Do American tourists get mandatory shots from the Canadian authorities every time they cross to the North?

    Quit. Los Angeles has more Mexicans than Mexico City. You think you live with a lot of Mexicans? You don't know the half of it. Haha.

    Illegal aliens have a higher incidence of disease than Americans. This is a fact.

    Before you start telling Americans that they're wrong for requiring shots, why don't you get your own house in order? Quit pointing the finger at us and point it at the corrupt leaders of your country.
    All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal.
    -Enoch Powell
  • We have a mexican place called Picante near me and it is pretty solid. All of the workers there are legal, which is why I go there.

    About 6 hours after I eat there, I really appreciate what latino food can do to your system.
    All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal.
    -Enoch Powell
  • caifan82caifan82 Mexico City Posts: 321
    Quit. Los Angeles has more Mexicans than Mexico City. You think you live with a lot of Mexicans? You don't know the half of it. Haha.

    Illegal aliens have a higher incidence of disease than Americans. This is a fact.

    Before you start telling Americans that they're wrong for requiring shots, why don't you get your own house in order? Quit pointing the finger at us and point it at the corrupt leaders of your country.

    Dude, I know! That's what I was saying in my first reply to this topic... I totally support you! Keep fighting the good fight! ;)
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