hmmm "poor, pro-choice backgrounds", rich or middle class people aren't pro-choice??? Just way too many assumptions without facts to back them up for an educated person to believe.
Most people who have abortions can't afford the child. That means they're too poor. That means that most people who have abortions are poor.
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Most people who have abortions can't afford the child. That means they're too poor. That means that most people who have abortions are poor.
Oh please, don't get me started on all the little preppy girls who got pregnant in high school. Their parent didn't waste anytime getting little Susie down to the clinic and word gets around quick. Some of these were the same girls who had their pictures with their church youth groups in the yearbook. Stereotypes are fun aren't they?
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You really think liberals have more kids than conservatives? Bullshit. Catholics have been having big families since the dawn of time. Liberal women take contraceptives and abort all of their babies so they might have one, if that.
Liberal women are mostly lesbos. Yeah, it's science...
Islam is the most popular religion world-wide, just search Google and look at the hits.
The pro-choice/pro-life difference is the result of being knowledgable or being ignorant.
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I think alone this comment suggests your ignorance....but then again more and more I am starting to believe that you just are trying to get people all wound up.....regardless though....
From what I've read, Islam isn't totally shut-off to abortion.
But I submit that in terms of abortion, they probably are largely ignorant, similar to Americans and Canadians.
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Let's see, do you know what is referred to by the acronym ICM?
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Hahahaha ... CW, it'd make your head spin how fast some pro-lifers will sprint to the abortion clinic if it's theirs or their daughter's future that's on the line. I've seen it happen in my own family, and people I know who worked at clinics have told me about protesters sneaking in for their own abortions. And you might also be surprised how many pro-choicers would refuse to have an abortion. The little signs that people wave around at protests don't always have any connection to how they actually live their lives.
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Hahahaha ... CW, it'd make your head spin how fast some pro-lifers will sprint to the abortion clinic if it's theirs or their daughter's future that's on the line. I've seen it happen in my own family, and people I know who worked at clinics have told me about protesters sneaking in for their own abortions. And you might also be surprised how many pro-choicers would refuse to have an abortion. The little signs that people wave around at protests don't always have any connection to how they actually live their lives.
I've heard similar stories from people who've worked at the Planned Parenthood clinics. I also have known girls who have gotten abortions with their parents direction, not just approval, even though they were staunch pro-lifers.
Also, off topic a bit, but what I find so confusing is most of the pro-life crowd say they believe in "the culture of life" as W would say, yet are for capital punishment. Isn't that an immense double-standard?!
It is an interesting point. If pro-choice people support abortion more frequently than pro-life people in practice, then there will be fewer pro-choice voters in the future. Pro-choice parents tend to have pro-choice children.
Ahhh the inevitable success of people who choose to have more babies. It can be seen in Northern Ireland, where Catholics will soon outnumber Protestants (and outvote them).
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Doesn't this mean you should be Pro-Abortion? I mean, if it means a lesser number of your enemies in the future... wouldn't you see this as a good thing?
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Hahahaha ... CW, it'd make your head spin how fast some pro-lifers will sprint to the abortion clinic if it's theirs or their daughter's future that's on the line. I've seen it happen in my own family, and people I know who worked at clinics have told me about protesters sneaking in for their own abortions. And you might also be surprised how many pro-choicers would refuse to have an abortion. The little signs that people wave around at protests don't always have any connection to how they actually live their lives.
ain't that the truth!
besides, as others have already pointed out, being birthed by pro-lifers by NO means is indicative that such offspring will grow up to be one and the same.
i would be interested to see such stats honestly, b/c when i think about it, most that i know brought up with truly conservative parents, myself included....went the other way. most with more liberal parents, they themselves grew up and stayed liberal....so dunno. granted, i am talking in regards to prolife/choice.....religion.....and only on occasion pure political persuasion.
anyhoo, i do not think it necessary to be born to prolife or choice parents. thankfully, i do believe most of us grow up and make up our own damn minds for such things. i'd like to believe we really are evolving that way.
Why do they call it "pro-choice"? Even if abortion is illegal, you still have the choice to get one. So that doesn't make any sense. They should just call it "pro-abortion".
What I don't understand is why people who don't want children don't get themselves fixed or something. Get a hysterectomy.
When life gives you lemons, throw them at somebody.
Why do they call it "pro-choice"? Even if abortion is illegal, you still have the choice to get one. So that doesn't make any sense. They should just call it "pro-abortion".
What I don't understand is why people who don't want children don't get themselves fixed or something. Get a hysterectomy.
simplify much?
um, plenty of women have abortions and then, guess what? go on to have children down the road! amazing, isn't it? seriously, it IS all about choice. and yea, funny thing with that whole legal thing...it sure is easier and safer to make that 'choice' when it is legal it's all kinda obvious WHY it needs to be legal. the choice to have a child, or not have a child, when you want to. no, it should not be used as BC, but sure, sadly, accidents happen, etc.
and yea...amazingly, there are many, many people who are pro-CHOICE and even more amazing, would never chose an abortion themselves, or perhaps luckily never have to make that choice....but are just glad the access and choice are there for them, for others, for all women. so yea......it IS pro-CHOICE.
i consider pro-life a wonderful PERSONAL choice if that's your thing. i would never ask anyone to make a choice for themselves they'd not want to, and all i expect in return is the same respect...let all choose for themselves. and yea...i am not getting into the whole circular debate issue...where is the baby's choice? etc......b/c yea, many of us don't believe a 'baby' exists, etc, etc. anyhooo......just wanted to clarify the whole 'choice' thing.
Why do they call it "pro-choice"? Even if abortion is illegal, you still have the choice to get one. So that doesn't make any sense. They should just call it "pro-abortion".
What I don't understand is why people who don't want children don't get themselves fixed or something. Get a hysterectomy.
Just because you are pro-choice (as in you support each individual woman being allowed to make decisions about her body without government interference) DOES NOT make you pro-abortion. Pro-choice is all about keeping the government's nose out of women's personal healthcare decisions. How would you like it if the government mandated that all men get circumcised?
I would think that ending a being's life is not the same as a person being circumcised. I suppose I just wish people could make smarter choices. Do I think the government has the right to tell a woman she cannot get an abortion? No; because it would be hypocritical considering the lives they have destroyed.
I don't support abortion, I see it as murder and I believe once the baby is conceived, it is a human being. Now, I understand that a lot of people don't agree with that, and they are entitled to their belief, so please abstain from arguing with me over the matter.
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Most people who have abortions can't afford the child. That means they're too poor. That means that most people who have abortions are poor.
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...yeah, but they're "nippin' the babies in the bud", so-to-speak.
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The repressed part is key. You need to be doing it to actually reproduce more often.
And all that built up repression and guilt seems to me like it would make for an amazing premature ejaculation.
What he is saying makes no sense though because children are hardly ever their parents made over.
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See, there's a difference between abortion patients and liberals.
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actually most poor people have kids and then stay on welfare... one of the many reasons why the welfare system in the US is fucked.
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Oh please, don't get me started on all the little preppy girls who got pregnant in high school. Their parent didn't waste anytime getting little Susie down to the clinic and word gets around quick. Some of these were the same girls who had their pictures with their church youth groups in the yearbook. Stereotypes are fun aren't they?
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
You can feel repressed in certain areas of your life but uninhibited in others.
And premature ejaculation is fine, its actually kinda sweet...
I would venture to say statistically most kids take on their parents politics, Id be interested to see a stat on that.
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Well, I know I didn't and good lord, kabong is the exact opposite of his parents. I'd like to see the stats on this, too
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Functionally, Catholics in the U.S., and even moreso worldwide, trend to the left.
Typically, CorporateWhore pigeonholes people where he needs them, regardless of reality.
I never pidgeonhole typical gay leftists like you that don't bathe and do drugs.
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Your the king (or queen) of generalizations......
The Queen. I'm gay.
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According to you then you must be a Liberal.....
Ah fuck.
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Islam is the most popular religion world-wide, just search Google and look at the hits.
The pro-choice/pro-life difference is the result of being knowledgable or being ignorant.
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Ignorance is Strength
Now all Muslims are ignorant.
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I think alone this comment suggests your ignorance....but then again more and more I am starting to believe that you just are trying to get people all wound up.....regardless though....
From what I've read, Islam isn't totally shut-off to abortion.
But I submit that in terms of abortion, they probably are largely ignorant, similar to Americans and Canadians.
LOL
Okay.
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Let's see, do you know what is referred to by the acronym ICM?
I've heard similar stories from people who've worked at the Planned Parenthood clinics. I also have known girls who have gotten abortions with their parents direction, not just approval, even though they were staunch pro-lifers.
Also, off topic a bit, but what I find so confusing is most of the pro-life crowd say they believe in "the culture of life" as W would say, yet are for capital punishment. Isn't that an immense double-standard?!
Doesn't this mean you should be Pro-Abortion? I mean, if it means a lesser number of your enemies in the future... wouldn't you see this as a good thing?
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ain't that the truth!
besides, as others have already pointed out, being birthed by pro-lifers by NO means is indicative that such offspring will grow up to be one and the same.
i would be interested to see such stats honestly, b/c when i think about it, most that i know brought up with truly conservative parents, myself included....went the other way. most with more liberal parents, they themselves grew up and stayed liberal....so dunno. granted, i am talking in regards to prolife/choice.....religion.....and only on occasion pure political persuasion.
anyhoo, i do not think it necessary to be born to prolife or choice parents. thankfully, i do believe most of us grow up and make up our own damn minds for such things. i'd like to believe we really are evolving that way.
Let's just breathe...
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What I don't understand is why people who don't want children don't get themselves fixed or something. Get a hysterectomy.
simplify much?
um, plenty of women have abortions and then, guess what? go on to have children down the road! amazing, isn't it? seriously, it IS all about choice. and yea, funny thing with that whole legal thing...it sure is easier and safer to make that 'choice' when it is legal it's all kinda obvious WHY it needs to be legal. the choice to have a child, or not have a child, when you want to. no, it should not be used as BC, but sure, sadly, accidents happen, etc.
and yea...amazingly, there are many, many people who are pro-CHOICE and even more amazing, would never chose an abortion themselves, or perhaps luckily never have to make that choice....but are just glad the access and choice are there for them, for others, for all women. so yea......it IS pro-CHOICE.
i consider pro-life a wonderful PERSONAL choice if that's your thing. i would never ask anyone to make a choice for themselves they'd not want to, and all i expect in return is the same respect...let all choose for themselves. and yea...i am not getting into the whole circular debate issue...where is the baby's choice? etc......b/c yea, many of us don't believe a 'baby' exists, etc, etc. anyhooo......just wanted to clarify the whole 'choice' thing.
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow
Just because you are pro-choice (as in you support each individual woman being allowed to make decisions about her body without government interference) DOES NOT make you pro-abortion. Pro-choice is all about keeping the government's nose out of women's personal healthcare decisions. How would you like it if the government mandated that all men get circumcised?
I don't support abortion, I see it as murder and I believe once the baby is conceived, it is a human being. Now, I understand that a lot of people don't agree with that, and they are entitled to their belief, so please abstain from arguing with me over the matter.